Action252Kid Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Not sure if anyone else commented on this, but it's crazy to me that the ZodiacKiller discussion board link in the first post of this thread is STILL an ongoing topic on that site with over 250 replies! I just skimmed parts of it and it seemed like some people were going a little (way) overboard trying to connect this book & Red Ryder comics from the 1940's etc to the killer. It wouldn't surprise me if someone from that Zodiac site won the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szav Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, Action252Kid said: Not sure if anyone else commented on this, but it's crazy to me that the ZodiacKiller discussion board link in the first post of this thread is STILL an ongoing topic on that site with over 250 replies! I just skimmed parts of it and it seemed like some people were going a little (way) overboard trying to connect this book & Red Ryder comics from the 1940's etc to the killer. It wouldn't surprise me if someone from that Zodiac site won the book. I dunno the connection with this book at least seems beyond coincidental...by knife, by rope, by gun, by fire...and the red mask on the skeleton on the card... If the OPG ever recognizes Tim Holt 30 with a citation it'll be interesting to see how they phrase it. It's probably several years away if ever, they're pretty slow to respond to market trends on oddball books like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 39 minutes ago, Action252Kid said: Not sure if anyone else commented on this, but it's crazy to me that the ZodiacKiller discussion board link in the first post of this thread is STILL an ongoing topic on that site with over 250 replies! I just skimmed parts of it and it seemed like some people were going a little (way) overboard trying to connect this book & Red Ryder comics from the 1940's etc to the killer. It wouldn't surprise me if someone from that Zodiac site won the book. Comics cause crime. Are you doubting Dr. Wertham? Monsters-n-heroes and Point Five 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telerites Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Not saying this could have caused the fat hammer but I ironically heard a ad while listening to a podcast about the new Zodiac Killer podcast, "Atlanta Monster / Monster: The Zodiac Killer." https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-monster-28735578/ Not something I listen to as I stay with OTR and sports mainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szav Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 It's pretty much official...someone that has some pull with the people at OPG needs to ask for this book to get a citation... https://www.ebay.com/itm/TIM-HOLT-30-NOTORIOUS-ZODIAC-ISSUE-GD-GGA-BONDAGE-COVER-SCARCE-/333231886145?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l44720.c10&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true sagii 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telerites Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 9 hours ago, szav said: It's pretty much official...someone that has some pull with the people at OPG needs to ask for this book to get a citation... https://www.ebay.com/itm/TIM-HOLT-30-NOTORIOUS-ZODIAC-ISSUE-GD-GGA-BONDAGE-COVER-SCARCE-/333231886145?_trksid=p2385738.m4383.l44720.c10&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true @sagii that was your book, right, Corey? I bid on it even though I have a copy Hopefully, you were happy with the result. I think you conservative on the grade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readcomix Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, telerites said: @sagii that was your book, right, Corey? I bid on it even though I have a copy Hopefully, you were happy with the result. I think you conservative on the grade. I agree @sagii was conservative on grade; nice price but he would have done better if I hadn't zonked out and missed the listing last night! Corey, if the buyer flakes and doesn't pay (I doubt it on a $350 GA western; it's probably another boardie) but sometimes it happens on eBay, please PM me. You're close enough for an in-person transaction. Edited June 16, 2019 by Readcomix Clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagii Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 10 minutes ago, Readcomix said: I agree @sagii was conservative on grade; nice price but he would have done better if I hadn't zonked out and missed the listing last night! Corey, if the buyer flakes and doesn't pay (I doubt it on a $350 GA western; it's probably another boardie) but sometimes it happens on eBay, please PM me. You're close enough for an in-person transaction. 1 hour ago, telerites said: @sagii that was your book, right, Corey? I bid on it even though I have a copy Hopefully, you were happy with the result. I think you conservative on the grade. Yep! I got a PM from @szav also when it went live that he felt I was conservative on the grade, and in hindsight I probably was was just being careful as it is a trending book. Probably didn't help that a higher graded copy was being auctioned off at the same time. But all in all, got waaay more than I paid for it, so that's a win! Some good stuff on deck at the auction houses so building a little war chest And @Readcomix you got it buddy! Thanks guys! Readcomix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
szav Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 And there goes the VG copy for $759... guess we’ll find out soon if there’s higher grade copies of this buried in people’s collections, hard to imagine these results wouldn’t flush them out... https://www.ebay.com/i/382994725420?ul_ref=https%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F0%2Fe11002.m43.l2649%2F7%3Feuid%3D64f0d04cfe7c439b82e3722d13941ba7%26bu%3D44259714244%26loc%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%252Fulk%252Fi%252F382994725420%26sojTags%3Dbu%3Dbu%26srcrot%3De11002.m43.l2649%26rvr_id%3D0%26rvr_ts%3D62f35bfc16b0aa66e5741df2fff8a493&ul_noapp=true Hutch88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telerites Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 7 hours ago, szav said: And there goes the VG copy for $759... guess we’ll find out soon if there’s higher grade copies of this buried in people’s collections, hard to imagine these results wouldn’t flush them out... https://www.ebay.com/i/382994725420?ul_ref=https%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F0%2Fe11002.m43.l2649%2F7%3Feuid%3D64f0d04cfe7c439b82e3722d13941ba7%26bu%3D44259714244%26loc%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%252Fulk%252Fi%252F382994725420%26sojTags%3Dbu%3Dbu%26srcrot%3De11002.m43.l2649%26rvr_id%3D0%26rvr_ts%3D62f35bfc16b0aa66e5741df2fff8a493&ul_noapp=true This one really surprised me. I think some of it is the seller. Peter has a lot of followers and is a very seller. I watch his auctions myself. I also think @sagii Corey's book that sold the day before inspired underbidders to latch on and go heavy on it as I think Corey's book may have been undergraded and closer to this grade. I also never discount the power of the boards to influence bidding. I knew nothing about this book until seeing it here and luckily have since acquired a copy. But still never thought it would hit where it did. I was two bills off where I though it would land. It will be interesting to see what else comes out now. Curious if anyone has listened to that new podcast I mentioned in this thread about the Zodiac killer - perhaps the book is mentioned in an intro or something... sagii 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telerites Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 11 hours ago, szav said: And there goes the VG copy for $759... guess we’ll find out soon if there’s higher grade copies of this buried in people’s collections, hard to imagine these results wouldn’t flush them out... https://www.ebay.com/i/382994725420?ul_ref=https%3A%2F%2Frover.ebay.com%2Frover%2F0%2Fe11002.m43.l2649%2F7%3Feuid%3D64f0d04cfe7c439b82e3722d13941ba7%26bu%3D44259714244%26loc%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.ebay.com%252Fulk%252Fi%252F382994725420%26sojTags%3Dbu%3Dbu%26srcrot%3De11002.m43.l2649%26rvr_id%3D0%26rvr_ts%3D62f35bfc16b0aa66e5741df2fff8a493&ul_noapp=true And already two new listings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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szav Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 1 hour ago, telerites said: And already two new listings. And yet, somehow, overpriced even by the ridiculous standard set by this weekends two auctions. These 2 will sit unsold forever...ahh ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
october Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, szav said: And yet, somehow, overpriced even by the ridiculous standard set by this weekends two auctions. These 2 will sit unsold forever...ahh ebay. At least one copy sold for an aggressive amount prior to the two this weekend. Still a recent phenomenon though. Probably less than a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N e r V Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 I’ve always liked that cover but if the connection is true it makes it a bit to creepy for me to want to keep one in my collection. Not a fan of serial killer items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
october Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, N e r V said: I’ve always liked that cover but if the connection is true it makes it a bit to creepy for me to want to keep one in my collection. Not a fan of serial killer items. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telerites Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, N e r V said: I’ve always liked that cover but if the connection is true it makes it a bit to creepy for me to want to keep one in my collection. Not a fan of serial killer items. I tend to think the Zodiac killer angle was construed in some backroom blog. I actually wasn't even aware of the supposed connection or of the book having a desirable cover. The cover is what makes it for me with or without the creepiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagii Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, telerites said: I tend to think the Zodiac killer angle was construed in some backroom blog. I actually wasn't even aware of the supposed connection or of the book having a desirable cover. The cover is what makes it for me with or without the creepiness. ..For comparison, i used to skip (past) the song 'Helter Skelter' on the Album/CD for years because of the Manson angle, finding it creepy. Then one day I rationalized that the Beatles didn't make it for Manson, he just interpreted other meanings to it in his warped mind and latched onto the song. Same thing with the comic when it was being produced But ironically, when i was going through a list of books to sell (and how or why i could 'live' without something)the Zodiac connection is what ultimately made me part with the book ..go figure Edited June 18, 2019 by sagii telerites 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 The Green River SA collection has a similar connotation to me. I don’t own any... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sagii Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Robot Man said: The Green River SA collection has a similar connotation to me. I don’t own any... ...enlighten please.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
