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Action 1 in next Heritage sale with new CGC resto label

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AnkurJ

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Quite a bit of information. It should be interesting to see how the market responds. Based on the description, the work certainly looks like that of Matt Nelson/Kenny.

 

http://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/action-comics-1-dc-1938-cgc-apparent-vf-80-moderate-extensive-a-4-cream-to-off-white-pages/p/7097-33121.s

 

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Wayne-Tec

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CGC explains their new label system here: LINK

 

To summarize...

 

Quality of restoration — replacing “Amateur” and “Professional” designations.

 

A = best similar to “professional”

B = middle

C = worst similar to “amateur”

 

 

Quantity of restoration — expanding upon the old “Slight”, “Moderate” and “Extensive” designations.

 

1 = slight

2 = slight/moderate

3 = moderate

4 = moderate/extensive

5 = extensive

 

 

Best restoration grade: A-1

 

Worst restoration grade: C-5

 

In this case, the Action #1 received the best grade possible for quality of restoration "A", with the quantity of restoration "moderate/extensive" earning a "4." Thus, the overall restoration grade of an "A-4."

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Marvel Zombie

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CGC explains their new label system here: LINK

 

To summarize...

 

Quality of restoration — replacing “Amateur” and “Professional” designations.

 

A = best similar to “professional”

B = middle

C = worst similar to “amateur”

 

 

Quantity of restoration — expanding upon the old “Slight”, “Moderate” and “Extensive” designations.

 

1 = slight

2 = slight/moderate

3 = moderate

4 = moderate/extensive

5 = extensive

 

 

Best restoration grade: A-1

 

Worst restoration grade: C-5

 

In this case, the Action #1 received the best grade possible for quality of restoration "A", with the quantity of restoration "moderate/extensive" earning a "4." Thus, the overall restoration grade of an "A-4."

 

 

Its only on CT the Action #1 falls into Mod/Ext. On most of the other repairs it falls under Mod.

So why is this book not rather a 'Mod' than a 'Mod/Ext' ?

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G.A.tor

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CGC explains their new label system here: LINK

 

To summarize...

 

Quality of restoration — replacing “Amateur” and “Professional” designations.

 

A = best similar to “professional”

B = middle

C = worst similar to “amateur”

 

 

Quantity of restoration — expanding upon the old “Slight”, “Moderate” and “Extensive” designations.

 

1 = slight

2 = slight/moderate

3 = moderate

4 = moderate/extensive

5 = extensive

 

 

Best restoration grade: A-1

 

Worst restoration grade: C-5

 

In this case, the Action #1 received the best grade possible for quality of restoration "A", with the quantity of restoration "moderate/extensive" earning a "4." Thus, the overall restoration grade of an "A-4."

 

 

Its only on CT the Action #1 falls into Mod/Ext. On most of the other repairs it falls under Mod.

So why is this book not rather a 'Mod' than a 'Mod/Ext' ?

Ext amount of piece fill (leaf casting)?

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Marvel Zombie

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CGC explains their new label system here: LINK

 

To summarize...

 

Quality of restoration — replacing “Amateur” and “Professional” designations.

 

A = best similar to “professional”

B = middle

C = worst similar to “amateur”

 

 

Quantity of restoration — expanding upon the old “Slight”, “Moderate” and “Extensive” designations.

 

1 = slight

2 = slight/moderate

3 = moderate

4 = moderate/extensive

5 = extensive

 

 

Best restoration grade: A-1

 

Worst restoration grade: C-5

 

In this case, the Action #1 received the best grade possible for quality of restoration "A", with the quantity of restoration "moderate/extensive" earning a "4." Thus, the overall restoration grade of an "A-4."

 

 

Its only on CT the Action #1 falls into Mod/Ext. On most of the other repairs it falls under Mod.

So why is this book not rather a 'Mod' than a 'Mod/Ext' ?

Ext amount of piece fill (leaf casting)?

 

Nope:

Piece fill cover (leafcasting fill) Right Bottom Front Cover A-1

Piece fill cover (leafcasting fill) Spine A-1

Piece fill interior (leafcasting fill) A-1

 

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The-Collector

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CGC explains their new label system here: LINK

 

To summarize...

 

Quality of restoration — replacing “Amateur” and “Professional” designations.

 

A = best similar to “professional”

B = middle

C = worst similar to “amateur”

 

 

Quantity of restoration — expanding upon the old “Slight”, “Moderate” and “Extensive” designations.

 

1 = slight

2 = slight/moderate

3 = moderate

4 = moderate/extensive

5 = extensive

 

 

Best restoration grade: A-1

 

Worst restoration grade: C-5

 

In this case, the Action #1 received the best grade possible for quality of restoration "A", with the quantity of restoration "moderate/extensive" earning a "4." Thus, the overall restoration grade of an "A-4."

 

 

Its only on CT the Action #1 falls into Mod/Ext. On most of the other repairs it falls under Mod.

So why is this book not rather a 'Mod' than a 'Mod/Ext' ?

Ext amount of piece fill (leaf casting)?

 

Nope:

Piece fill cover (leafcasting fill) Right Bottom Front Cover A-1

Piece fill cover (leafcasting fill) Spine A-1

Piece fill interior (leafcasting fill) A-1

 

Isn't the degree of restoration indicated on the label the worst degree assigned to an individual type of work? So as the exterior CT received an A-4 and that is the lowest the degree on the label is A-4.

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Marvel Zombie

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CGC explains their new label system here: LINK

 

To summarize...

 

Quality of restoration — replacing “Amateur” and “Professional” designations.

 

A = best similar to “professional”

B = middle

C = worst similar to “amateur”

 

 

Quantity of restoration — expanding upon the old “Slight”, “Moderate” and “Extensive” designations.

 

1 = slight

2 = slight/moderate

3 = moderate

4 = moderate/extensive

5 = extensive

 

 

Best restoration grade: A-1

 

Worst restoration grade: C-5

 

In this case, the Action #1 received the best grade possible for quality of restoration "A", with the quantity of restoration "moderate/extensive" earning a "4." Thus, the overall restoration grade of an "A-4."

 

 

Its only on CT the Action #1 falls into Mod/Ext. On most of the other repairs it falls under Mod.

So why is this book not rather a 'Mod' than a 'Mod/Ext' ?

Ext amount of piece fill (leaf casting)?

 

Nope:

Piece fill cover (leafcasting fill) Right Bottom Front Cover A-1

Piece fill cover (leafcasting fill) Spine A-1

Piece fill interior (leafcasting fill) A-1

 

Isn't the degree of restoration indicated on the label the worst degree assigned to an individual type of work? So as the exterior CT received an A-4 and that is the lowest the degree on the label is A-4.

 

 

But if the average numerical designation across all parameters (in the graders notes) are say A-2 (or 3); shouldnt that take the book into Mod or Sligth/Mod territory? Piece fill is only slight (A-1). Why pick pick out the "severest" work (on this book CT) and let it dominate the label?

 

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gino2paulus2

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Wait a minute I thought this didnt go into affect until July 1st? Was I mistaken? I just got books back very recently and a couple were restored but none in the new holders? This one is already in a new holder and up for auction? (shrug) i suppose since it is the most important comic in history they wanted to test the waters first with this puppy

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Vision75

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CGC explains their new label system here: LINK

 

To summarize...

 

Quality of restoration — replacing “Amateur” and “Professional” designations.

 

A = best similar to “professional”

B = middle

C = worst similar to “amateur”

 

 

Quantity of restoration — expanding upon the old “Slight”, “Moderate” and “Extensive” designations.

 

1 = slight

2 = slight/moderate

3 = moderate

4 = moderate/extensive

5 = extensive

 

 

Best restoration grade: A-1

 

Worst restoration grade: C-5

 

In this case, the Action #1 received the best grade possible for quality of restoration "A", with the quantity of restoration "moderate/extensive" earning a "4." Thus, the overall restoration grade of an "A-4."

 

 

Its only on CT the Action #1 falls into Mod/Ext. On most of the other repairs it falls under Mod.

So why is this book not rather a 'Mod' than a 'Mod/Ext' ?

Ext amount of piece fill (leaf casting)?

 

Nope:

Piece fill cover (leafcasting fill) Right Bottom Front Cover A-1

Piece fill cover (leafcasting fill) Spine A-1

Piece fill interior (leafcasting fill) A-1

 

Isn't the degree of restoration indicated on the label the worst degree assigned to an individual type of work? So as the exterior CT received an A-4 and that is the lowest the degree on the label is A-4.

 

Yes (thumbs u

 

Here's the full CGC explanation: http://www.cgccomics.com/news/viewarticle.aspx?IDArticle=4030&

 

Specifically, regarding the overall restoration grade....

 

"Every type of restoration found on each book will be individually graded for quantity and quality, with a cumulative score determining the final restoration grade assigned. For instance, if the Amazing Spider-Man #1 exhibits a cover cleaning, tear seals, piece fill and color touch, CGC will assign a quality and quantity grade to each: cover cleaning, A-1; tear seals, A-1; piece fill, B-3;, color touch, B-2. The cumulative grade will be determined by the highest letter and number assigned to each technique applied. In this particular case, the highest letter and number assigned is B-3, which would become the overall restoration grade of the Amazing Spider-Man #1."

 

I guess the logic here is that the comic book's overall restoration is no better than it's most extensive and amateur type of restoration.

 

Here's my thinking on how to "game" that system. Say a book has A-2 color touch but nothing else is done to it and it grades a 7.5 A-2. Couldn't someone then add pieces, reinforce the spine, etc? As long as that work was no more severe than A-2 on any restoration type, the book would still receive the same overall restoration grade of A-2 but likely the book grade would be higher (e.g., 9.0). Correct?

 

Granted, the book would receive additional grades for the restoration work on the spine and pieces added whereas before there would be none.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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G.A.tor

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CGC explains their new label system here: LINK

 

To summarize...

 

Quality of restoration — replacing “Amateur” and “Professional” designations.

 

A = best similar to “professional”

B = middle

C = worst similar to “amateur”

 

 

Quantity of restoration — expanding upon the old “Slight”, “Moderate” and “Extensive” designations.

 

1 = slight

2 = slight/moderate

3 = moderate

4 = moderate/extensive

5 = extensive

 

 

Best restoration grade: A-1

 

Worst restoration grade: C-5

 

In this case, the Action #1 received the best grade possible for quality of restoration "A", with the quantity of restoration "moderate/extensive" earning a "4." Thus, the overall restoration grade of an "A-4."

 

 

Its only on CT the Action #1 falls into Mod/Ext. On most of the other repairs it falls under Mod.

So why is this book not rather a 'Mod' than a 'Mod/Ext' ?

Ext amount of piece fill (leaf casting)?

 

Nope:

Piece fill cover (leafcasting fill) Right Bottom Front Cover A-1

Piece fill cover (leafcasting fill) Spine A-1

Piece fill interior (leafcasting fill) A-1

right, but 1+1+1=3...if linear (all resto weighted the same), then that is at least "mod" amount for piece fill...add that up with the other resto, and cumulatively, mod/ext (shrug)

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Bronty

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Those page edges look pretty dark for cream to off-white.
it's page "quality", not "color" :baiting:

 

Yet the descriptors aren't "exceptional to astounding pages" are they? :baiting:

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