RCheli Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 He has a unique style for sure. Take a good look at the Avengers 100 cover. It ain't workin' there, the legs and lines on the characters are all screwed up, it really looks bad. Sorry to hear he's a jerk, he's not nearly good enough to get away with it. I'm no huge Smith fan by any means, but that is a ridiculous thing to say. He's one of the most important comic artists in the history of the medium. He was 23 years old (or younger) when he drew that Avengers #100 cover, and has, like most artists, improved greatly over the decades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 He said about his stint on Avengers he hated drawing books about characters he didn't care about at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 He has a unique style for sure. Take a good look at the Avengers 100 cover. It ain't workin' there, the legs and lines on the characters are all screwed up, it really looks bad. Sorry to hear he's a jerk, he's not nearly good enough to get away with it. I'm no huge Smith fan by any means, but that is a ridiculous thing to say. He's one of the most important comic artists in the history of the medium. He was 23 years old (or younger) when he drew that Avengers #100 cover, and has, like most artists, improved greatly over the decades. I think the reverse-he was good at 23 terrible after 27.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCheli Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I think the reverse-he was good at 23 terrible after 27.... Are you serious? Go out and buy The Studio. Go out and buy the Weapon X trade. Go out and buy Rune or Archer and Armstrong or his black-and-white Conan comics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Oates Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 He has a unique style for sure. Take a good look at the Avengers 100 cover. It ain't workin' there, the legs and lines on the characters are all screwed up, it really looks bad. Sorry to hear he's a jerk, he's not nearly good enough to get away with it. I'm no huge Smith fan by any means, but that is a ridiculous thing to say. He's one of the most important comic artists in the history of the medium. He was 23 years old (or younger) when he drew that Avengers #100 cover, and has, like most artists, improved greatly over the decades. Well ok. I still think I'm right on though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comix4fun Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 So pretty much it's Barry Smith..... I've seen many...MANY...creators be jerks at shows. Happens all the time. They are human and the jerk ratio between normal humans and comic creator humans is pretty consistent. One of the best things about Facebook is that the jerks usually out themselves as jerks long before you have to go through the time and trouble of gathering their comics and traveling to a convention to witness the jerk-face-sauce in person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 I think the reverse-he was good at 23 terrible after 27.... Are you serious? Go out and buy The Studio. Go out and buy the Weapon X trade. Go out and buy Rune or Archer and Armstrong or his black-and-white Conan comics. Ugh-I prefer his work on Conan Rune the faces were stretched out about 10 feet and he lost that energy he had.... It's like he was trying for the Image style-not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comix4fun Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I think the reverse-he was good at 23 terrible after 27.... Are you serious? Go out and buy The Studio. Go out and buy the Weapon X trade. Go out and buy Rune or Archer and Armstrong or his black-and-white Conan comics. Ugh-I prefer his work on Conan Rune the faces were stretched out about 10 feet and he lost that energy he had.... It's like he was trying for the Image style-not good. So you haven't seen ANY of his fine art work done in the last 25 years then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 I think the reverse-he was good at 23 terrible after 27.... Are you serious? Go out and buy The Studio. Go out and buy the Weapon X trade. Go out and buy Rune or Archer and Armstrong or his black-and-white Conan comics. Ugh-I prefer his work on Conan Rune the faces were stretched out about 10 feet and he lost that energy he had.... It's like he was trying for the Image style-not good. So you haven't seen ANY of his fine art work done in the last 25 years then? No that stuff is ok though I prefer his BA comic work It's just his post BA comic work that makes me puke-Rune Weapon X et al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjum12 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I think the reverse-he was good at 23 terrible after 27.... Are you serious? Go out and buy The Studio. Go out and buy the Weapon X trade. Go out and buy Rune or Archer and Armstrong or his black-and-white Conan comics. Hardcover Weapon X trade ...... right next to my Hardcover All Star Superman 2 volume set GOD BLESS... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 I just love the crude energy of early Smith-it's like he enjoyed drawing back then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystafo Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 LOVE Perez...never had the pleasure of meeting him, but I've heard he is the nicest guy in the biz (or one of them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dupont2005 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 He's one of the most important comic artists in the history of the medium. I've never heard of the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCheli Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 He's one of the most important comic artists in the history of the medium. I've never heard of the guy. You've never heard of Barry Windsor Smith? Or are you being a weinenheimer (as my PA Dutch side of my family would say)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comix4fun Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I think the reverse-he was good at 23 terrible after 27.... Are you serious? Go out and buy The Studio. Go out and buy the Weapon X trade. Go out and buy Rune or Archer and Armstrong or his black-and-white Conan comics. Ugh-I prefer his work on Conan Rune the faces were stretched out about 10 feet and he lost that energy he had.... It's like he was trying for the Image style-not good. So you haven't seen ANY of his fine art work done in the last 25 years then? No that stuff is ok though I prefer his BA comic work It's just his post BA comic work that makes me puke-Rune Weapon X et al Weapon X, to me, is the perfect melding of his fine art sensibilities and his comic art sequential story telling. If you ever have a chance to see it in its original art form the detail is hypnotic. Not that you have to like everything, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dupont2005 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I think anyone can have a bad day, especially spending 30+ hours at a convention. But when someone's reputation precedes them then it probably isn't a bad day. I've heard a few things, but never witnessed anything first hand. I've met very few creators, and all were nice when I met them. I met Jose Conseco once though, and he must have been having a bad day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 I'd love to stand puzzled in front of his booth and say to my friend 'who is Barry Wisner Smith?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 I think the reverse-he was good at 23 terrible after 27.... Are you serious? Go out and buy The Studio. Go out and buy the Weapon X trade. Go out and buy Rune or Archer and Armstrong or his black-and-white Conan comics. Ugh-I prefer his work on Conan Rune the faces were stretched out about 10 feet and he lost that energy he had.... It's like he was trying for the Image style-not good. So you haven't seen ANY of his fine art work done in the last 25 years then? No that stuff is ok though I prefer his BA comic work It's just his post BA comic work that makes me puke-Rune Weapon X et al Weapon X, to me, is the perfect melding of his fine art sensibilities and his comic art sequential story telling. If you ever have a chance to see it in its original art form the detail is hypnotic. Not that you have to like everything, of course. That is pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquareChaos Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 He's one of the most important comic artists in the history of the medium. I've never heard of the guy. Also can't tell if you're joking, but going from some conversations we've had over the last few weeks, maybe he just never came up on your radar somehow. I know you mostly read creator owned work. He has certainly done some of that, but I guess I could see you missing him if you are not joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dupont2005 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) He's one of the most important comic artists in the history of the medium. I've never heard of the guy. You've never heard of Barry Windsor Smith? Or are you being a weinenheimer (as my PA Dutch side of my family would say)? Oh, I thought we were talking about someone else. Yeah, I've heard of BWS But I have to say that although I thought the art in Weapon X was good, the layouts were absolute garbage. His Weapon X layouts are actually what I used as a prime example of what I hate about mainstream comics in the criticizing artists thread the other day. There is no need for layouts to be this complicated https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTSv8sde3ls9v1lwmCKWD0UzCxxLz1aMzUEqJKz4Xrm--01ZTtp Also, although I think he's good at drawing, what makes him the most important artist in the history of the medium? That's quite a stretch Mark Ryden has done comic work. Femke Heimstra. Camilla D'errico. Frank Frazetta. I wouldn't say BWS is more "important" to comics as a medium than Robert Crumb, Art Spiegelman, any number of creators who pioneered a new genre, brought comics into a new light, started a widespread artistic movement within the medium, done anything to impact the medium in any significant way outside their own stuff. Edited August 13, 2014 by dupont2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
