Bosco685 Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 Thinking this over, it will be interesting if the $150M advertising becomes the norm as well. Especially trying to reach all possible box offices internationally, it doesn't seem that ridiculously high for a big-budget movie. Quote What a beast! So far, the production budget details seem consistent as I had initially noted on Pages 14 and 15. TheNumbers - Black Panther: $200M production budget NY Times - Black Panther - '...approving its $200 million production budget...' Washington Post - Black Panther - 'Marvel gave Coogler a budget pegged by trade reports at $200 million...' Variety - Black Panther - 'cost nearly $200 million to produce and roughly $150 million more to market' Comicbook.com Feige interview - "the resources devoted to this movie are equal to and in fact surpass our last couple of movies' Cinemablend - Black Panther - '...but it is the first to be made with a $200 million budget' Forbes.com (Natalie Robehmed) - Black Panther - 'Even with an eye watering $200 million production budget and an estimated $150 million more spent on publicity...' SYFY Wire - Black Panther - 'Black Panther reportedly had $200 million to work...' Remaining releases: Russia: 26 February 2018 Japan: 1 March 2018 China: 9 March 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatsby77 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 What's the presumptive break-even on a $200 million production + $150 million advertising? $800 million? $850 million? I know there are many variables that play into this, including the domestic/foreign split, advertising off-sets, merchandising revenue, etc. But I don't like seeing _any_ movie studios spending so much that a film has to do $400 million domestic / $400 million international just to break even. Similarly, I'm wondering if Avatar 2 will break records to the tune of a $350 million production cost + $150 million in advertising... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 If you're talking b/e on just theatrical release then $800ish is probably about right but at theatrical b/e the thing would still make a make a mint from DVD, Foreign DVD, etc. Using Deadline's formula you can fill in a lot of the #'s. http://deadline.com/2015/03/guardians-of-the-galaxy-profit-box-office-2014-1201391217/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2018/02/28/black-panther-tops-wonder-woman-and-may-help-avengers-infinity-war-soar-even-higher/#388ed3232ccb Mendelson now asking if BP will outgross AIW in US; he must've been reading my posts Will AIW ride BP's coattails or will people remember AOU was kind of a dud and not flock to it in record #'s? BP has $500MM US in sight by end of weekend, would be a stretch but isn't out of the realm of possibility Edited February 28, 2018 by paperheart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hekla Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 9 minutes ago, paperheart said: https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2018/02/28/black-panther-tops-wonder-woman-and-may-help-avengers-infinity-war-soar-even-higher/#388ed3232ccb Mendelson now asking if BP will outgross AIW in US; he must've been reading my posts Will AIW ride BP's coattails or will people remember AOU was kind of a dud and not flock to it in record #'s? BP has $500MM US in sight by end of weekend, would be a stretch but isn't out of the realm of possibility There has been such a build-up to Thanos and Infinity War, I don't think AOU would influence the vast majority of movie-goers, especially since the last few movies such as BP and Thor have been so well received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) It's not only BP that leads into AIW. You have basically the entire Marvel CU as a lead up to AIW as the main event. I think that when the dust settles we will see AIW as the top inflation adjusted grossing superhero film domestically and globally to date. I do think that the back to back box office success for Deadpool and BP will have studio execs rethinking their launch timing. It may be better to release in February/March before the theatres become oversaturated with too many big ticket action films in May through July. The same goes for mid/late August releases like GotG and SS. Timing of release can definitely help the final box office results. Edited February 28, 2018 by kimik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsilverjanet Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I remember the days when only marketing budgets were brought up in the non-marvel movie threads to emphasize the loss those movies had vs the profits of Disney greggy, Bosco685 and Larryw7 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 Remaining releases: Japan: 1 March 2018 China: 9 March 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 my favorite BP target: $630MM US, ya know $400MM more than JL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 42 minutes ago, paperheart said: my favorite BP target: $630MM US, ya know $400MM more than JL Such a tiny man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhamlau Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Saw the movie, it was good. It was about 20 minutes to long and the dialogue got a little wooden giving some parts a bit of a boring feel. Also some parts were a little heavy cheesy like "ultra-rhino" and riding in the car seat with no car. Overall i'd put this in the middle of the pack. The batting order for me is... 1. Captain America 3 2. Guardians of the Galaxy 1 3. Captain America 2 4. Avengers 1 5. Thor 3 6. Dr. Strange 7. Iron Man 1 8. Ant-man 1 9. Iron Man 3 10. Guardians of the Galaxy 2 11. Spider-man 1 12. Captain America 1 13. Black Panther 14. Thor 1 15. Avengers 2 16. Thor 2 17. The Incredible Hulk 18. Iron Man 2 Rip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatsby77 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 For those keeping score, after 12 days of release, Black Panther's now rocking nearly $100 million ahead of Avengers: Age of Ultron at the same point domestically. Day-um. comic_memories 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryw7 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I'm finally seeing this tomorrow. I'm really looking forward to it, I just hope it lives up to the hype. Black Panther was always a favorite of mine as a kid, if only because he resembled Batman. ComicConnoisseur and Ken Aldred 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kagenish Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 23 hours ago, Bosco685 said: Remaining releases: Japan: 1 March 2018 China: 9 March 2018 I think Black Panther could end up taking the 5th or 4th spot for worldwide numbers at the end of it's run. comic_memories 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 15 minutes ago, kagenish said: I think Black Panther could end up taking the 5th or 4th spot for worldwide numbers at the end of it's run. Incredible! Especially for a standalone hero movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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comic_memories Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 This is very touching. namisgr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicConnoisseur Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) 17 hours ago, Bosco685 said: Incredible! Especially for a standalone hero movie. Puts the pressure on the rest of the superhero movies this year. Other than Avengers Infinity War I don't see anything coming close to it boxoffice wise. Poor Ant-Man 2. It will do good but not like Black Panther. Edited March 2, 2018 by ComicConnoisseur 1950's war comics and Ken Aldred 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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paperheart Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 23 minutes ago, ComicConnoisseur said: Puts the pressure on the rest of the superhero movies this year. Other than Avengers Infinity War I don't see anything coming close to it boxoffice wise. Poor Ant-Man 2. It will do good but not like Black Panther. A-M doesn't have to do anything like BP (and won't) but if it's solidly entertaining and does bigger BO than the first it's still a win. Will push the studio to a$3BB year (on top of $2.6BB last year, if you include S-M:HC) comic_memories and ComicConnoisseur 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
