Black Panther official movie thread (11/3/17) 1 1

[paperheart]

1 hour ago, Gatsby77 said:

Much as I'd love to see that, I think its velocity will greatly decrease after this weekend.

Between now and April 1, we've got Tomb Raider, Pacific Rim 2 and Ready Player One.

Even if each of them flops -- or at least underperforms -- $620MM+ is still not assured.

no way, the tail on this is going to be much longer. Tomb Raider is tracking to low to high 20's, that might not even be enough to unseat the king.  BP will be butting up against $600MM by next Sunday.

[Bosco685]

 

[Aweandlorder]

8 hours ago, Bosco685 said:

My wife and I finally got the chance to go see this last night at Regal Theaters. Really like their theaters, as they have those large chairs where you can kick back and feel like you are sitting on the couch.

I really enjoyed this movie. And the character T'Challa is not only a portrayal of strength, but also consistently leaning towards what is right. Even when he is challenged for the crown and is advised to deny Killmonger the chance, he still does what is right based on the traditions and practices of Wakanda.

It's pretty clear why movie-goers appreciate Killmonger so much. His backstory really hits at the emotions when you consider what he had to go through as an abandoned child. But the toughest scene is when he transitions to the Astral Plane to see his father, and the latter realizes what his son has become is far from what he desired for him. As a father, man that was a hard scene to get through.

I see what you meant about more screen time for the Dora Milaje. There is much more screen time in this movie versus the Amazons in Wonder Woman. Especially with a couple of the main characters that engage with T'Challa throughout the movie. But when it comes to purpose and history, Wonder Woman had much more details behind the Amazons right from the beginning of the movie. Zeus created the Amazons to safeguard the world from the evils of Ares. And in the DC Movie Universe, it is to protect the God Killer for later use against Ares, which turned out to be Diana. With the Dora Milaje, what we see is they serve as Wakanda's army and imperial guard. And with their lack of ability to drive direction in Wakanda, they are shown to be sub-servant to the king. Even when Killmonger is beating T'Challa down, all they can do is stand there and observe because that is what is expected.

With Killmonger as an MCU villain, he is definitely up there with some of the most impressive. Though I would still consider Loki and The Winter Soldier my favorites. But his purpose was very clear due to all his suffering and seeing what impacts former People of Africa the most: overpowering the Colonizers (a nice way of saying countries commonly Caucasian that had involvement in slave trade). So I felt he was more straightforward and driven by hate and hurt. Even when he receives the power of the Black Panther and has the caregivers burn the rest of the Heart-Shaped Herb, it is all about him being the last one to receive such powers and none other going forward. Though I could go either way with his intent being NOBODY should ever be given greater powers over their people like this, and everyone should be given the right of equality. Though he was going to achieve this through force.

Overall, I would place this in the top 10. But I would still start my list with Captain America: The Winter Soldier followed by Guardians of the Galaxy and The Avengers. Where I would place Black Panther after that I still have to think it through. But easily in the Top 10.

wait...

You just saw this movie now??? 

[Chaos_in_Canada]

Kendrick Lamar, SZA - All The Stars

 

[Bosco685]

30 minutes ago, Aweandlorder said:

wait...

You just saw this movie now??? 

I'm not going through that story again.

[kagenish]

35 minutes ago, Bosco685 said:

I'm not going through that story again.

[Aweandlorder]

48 minutes ago, kagenish said:

[Bosco685]

1 hour ago, kagenish said:

You are too funny.

[fantastic_four]

On 3/9/2018 at 3:37 PM, Bosco685 said:

 

 

Do domestic totals always include Canada?

[fantastic_four]

On 3/10/2018 at 11:31 AM, paperheart said:

$50MM in China thru Sat, tracking ever so slightly behind S-M:HC. $100MM+ looks right ultimately (and nearly inconsequential due to domestic blow out #'s)

I'm very surprised by the China numbers.  That's awesome.  

[fantastic_four]

18 hours ago, Bosco685 said:

When Killmonger's father cries on the Astral Plane, was it due to guilt over what his son had become or because he had betrayed Wakanda (or both)?

I assumed it was because of what he had become, i.e. a mass murderer so fixated on killing that he marked his body with every kill.

[fantastic_four]

Black athletes have started adopting the Wakanda Forever salute during games or after wins.

 

[Bosco685]

1 hour ago, fantastic_four said:

Do domestic totals always include Canada?

Correct. Domestic Box Office are the two countries combined (valued at $11.4B in box office annual results), and all other countries are considered International Box Office (valued at $27.2B in box office annual results). Though the MPAA should be coming out with its annual review soon enough to update these numbers.

[Bosco685]

1 hour ago, fantastic_four said:

I assumed it was because of what he had become, i.e. a mass murderer so fixated on killing that he marked his body with every kill.

It was quite the solid scene.

[fantastic_four]

1 minute ago, Bosco685 said:

1 hour ago, fantastic_four said:

Do domestic totals always include Canada?

Correct. Domestic Box Office are the two countries combined (valued at $11.4B in box office annual results), and all other countries are considered International Box Office (valued at $27.2B in box office annual results).

This is an outrage.  If the Canucks want to glom onto us they need to bend the knee and become the 51st state.   

[comic_memories]

4 consecutive weeks in 1st place, tied with Dark Knight and first Marvel movie  to do so,

 

1	Titanic	Par.	15	15	$600,788,188	12/19/97
2	Beverly Hills Cop	Par.	13	14	$234,760,478	12/05/84
3	Tootsie	Col.	13	14	$177,200,000	12/17/82
4	Home Alone	Fox	12	12	$285,761,243	11/16/90
5	Crocodile Dundee	Par.	9	9	$174,803,506	9/26/86
6	Good Morning, Vietnam	BV	9	9	$123,922,370	12/25/87
7	Back to the Future	Uni.	8	11	$210,609,762	7/03/85
8	Fatal Attraction	Par.	8	8	$156,645,693	9/18/87
9	Porky's	Fox	8	8	$105,492,483	3/19/82
10	Avatar	Fox	7	7	$749,766,139	12/18/09
11	Ghostbusters	Col.	7	10	$229,242,989	6/08/84
12	On Golden Pond	Uni.	7	7	$119,285,432	12/04/81
13	E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial	Uni.	6	16	$359,197,037	6/11/82
14	The Fugitive	WB	6	6	$183,875,760	8/06/93
15	Rocky IV	UA	6	6	$127,873,716	11/27/85
16	The Sixth Sense	BV	5	5	$293,506,292	8/06/99
17	Rain Man	MGM	5	6	$172,825,435	12/16/88
18	Look Who's Talking	TriS	5	5	$140,088,813	10/13/89
19	The Silence of the Lambs	Orion	5	5	$130,742,922	2/14/91
20	Wayne's World	Par.	5	5	$121,697,323	2/14/92
21	The Golden Child	Par.	5	5	$79,817,937	12/12/86
22	Mr. Mom	Fox	5	5	$64,783,827	7/22/83
23	The Secret of My Success	Uni.	5	5	$66,995,879	4/10/87
24	Stakeout	BV	5	5	$65,673,233	8/07/87
25	Star Wars: The Force Awakens	BV	4	4	$936,662,225	12/18/15
26	The Dark Knight	WB	4	4	$533,345,358	7/18/08
27	The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King	NL	4	4	$377,027,325	12/17/03
28	Black Panther	BV	4	4	$562,015,601	2/16/1

 

[valiantman]

3 hours ago, fantastic_four said:

This is an outrage.  If the Canucks want to glom onto us they need to bend the knee and become the 51st state.   

No way. I spent some time in Canada this summer, and I think it's hilarious that they simultaneously believe the Queen of England cares about them as well as pretending that France matters in North America.  Don't destroy the fantasyland. 

[paperheart]

$4MM US Monday, down 15%.  If it holds even half as well the remainder of the week, it's >$600MM by Sunday.  'Captain Smith, what's that large black object off our starboard bow? Looks like a giant cat.'

[Drummy]

I saw this film again the other day, and it was even better to me the second time around.  I still think much of the CGI action is too cartoonish , but the character interactions, the -script, and the motivations and emotions rang true.  

I was struck in particular by Chadwick Bozeman's performance this time -- his ferocity when he was angry ("I am your king now!" -- to Zuri, and "It was wrong!" -- to his father in the spirit-world) really struck me.  I don't agree with others who have seen his performance as too reserved or one-note.  He was, to me, excellent.

Still a 7.5-8/10 overall for me.

Dan

[Bosco685]