Moderation action discussion
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This is to ask questions about or provide respectful feedback about specific moderation actions, which include:

 

1. Locking threads

 

2. Removing posts or threads with no other action

 

3. Private warnings

 

4. Wrist slaps (2 days suspension and a warning)

 

5. Strikes (1week, 2 week or 1 month suspensions and public record of such)

 

6. Banning

 

Note that those action that aren't visible (private warning and wrist slaps) probably won't come up much, but they're listed here for completeness.

 

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4. Why are certain CGC employees/moderators allowed to levy week long wrist slaps without any discussion or warning because they don't agree with a viewpoint of a poster?

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Thanks Arch, I like the changes.

 

Question

 

I'm curious if moderation discussions will still be allowed in CG; and if not, whether they will be moved to the new forum or just deleted. I'm assuming that thread movement would require thread creation permission in the moderation area (possibly something you are trying to avoid).

 

Thoughts?

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4. Why are certain CGC employees/moderators allowed to levy week long wrist slaps without any discussion or warning because they don't agree with a viewpoint of a poster?

 

Sounds like a misperception of why a moderation action was taken since I'm not aware of those cases, but I'd have to see examples to comment.

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Thanks Arch, I like the changes.

 

Question

 

I'm curious if moderation discussions will still be allowed in CG; and if not, whether they will be moved to the new forum or just deleted. I'm assuming that thread movement would require thread creation permission in the moderation area (possibly something you are trying to avoid).

 

Thoughts?

 

I'm testing out this idea right now, but my current intent would be to disallow the discussion in the collectible boards. The vast majority of users here hang out and discuss collecting without running into moderation, or even being very aware of actions. It's only a small number of users (albeit heavy users) who seem end up posting on or over the line so frequently that it's a big concern to them. The board in general should have a place to be heard on concerns about moderation and a place to find others concerns about it if they're so inclined, but

 

1. It's probably not all that interesting to many people and just eats up real estate better spent on collecting

 

2. It's not really on topic for the existing boards anyway

 

3. It's a chore for moderation to find the threads / comments among all of the other activity - which sort of defeats the purpose of trying to offer feedback

 

 

The downside is that I imagine most of the people who seek it out will be whoever has a complaint, while the happy majority will just ignore it - so the feedback is likely to be pretty one-note sounding, but that's ok.

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Thanks Arch, I like the changes.

 

Question

 

I'm curious if moderation discussions will still be allowed in CG; and if not, whether they will be moved to the new forum or just deleted. I'm assuming that thread movement would require thread creation permission in the moderation area (possibly something you are trying to avoid).

 

Thoughts?

 

I'm testing out this idea right now, but my current intent would be to disallow the discussion in the collectible boards. The vast majority of users here hang out and discuss collecting without running into moderation, or even being very aware of actions. It's only a small number of users (albeit heavy users) who seem end up posting on or over the line so frequently that it's a big concern to them. The board in general should have a place to be heard on concerns about moderation and a place to find others concerns about it if they're so inclined, but

 

1. It's probably not all that interesting to many people and just eats up real estate better spent on collecting

 

2. It's not really on topic for the existing boards anyway

 

3. It's a chore for moderation to find the threads / comments among all of the other activity - which sort of defeats the purpose of trying to offer feedback

 

 

The downside is that I imagine most of the people who seek it out will be whoever has a complaint, while the happy majority will just ignore it - so the feedback is likely to be pretty one-note sounding, but that's ok.

 

That's the direction I thought you were probably going. Thanks for the clarification.

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There has been speculation and scuttlebutt for years that certain boardies moonlight as moderators and use one, or more, of the "CGCMod#" user IDs, instead of using their own user ID. Is this true?

 

 

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4. Why are certain CGC employees/moderators allowed to levy week long wrist slaps without any discussion or warning because they don't agree with a viewpoint of a poster?

 

Sounds like a misperception of why a moderation action was taken since I'm not aware of those cases, but I'd have to see examples to comment.

 

Do you show any record of me getting an anonymous week long wrist slap last month? I would guess something a week long would have been posted by you or dena on the website so people would know who might be wanting to contact me about transactions.

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4. Why are certain CGC employees/moderators allowed to levy week long wrist slaps without any discussion or warning because they don't agree with a viewpoint of a poster?

 

Sounds like a misperception of why a moderation action was taken since I'm not aware of those cases, but I'd have to see examples to comment.

 

Do you show any record of me getting an anonymous week long wrist slap last month? I would guess something a week long would have been posted by you or dena on the website so people would know who might be wanting to contact me about transactions.

 

I thought wrist slaps were supposed to be for a day or two, not a week. Interesting

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5. Strikes (1week, 2 week or 1 month suspensions and public record of such)

I think the selective application of a strike is partly where the friction is allowed to continue on, disrupting the atmosphere of this forum. If you are going to allow certain board members to instigate, and yet others be called out for such behavior and issued a strike, then that mod inconsistent practice is contributing to the forum confusion what is acceptable and unacceptable behavior. And especially if they are factoring in how they feel about a forum member versus applying consistent guidelines and rules.

 

And that is not being disrespectful towards the mods. That is reality.

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There has been speculation and scuttlebutt for years that certain boardies moonlight as moderators and use one, or more, of the "CGCMod#" user IDs, instead of using their own user ID. Is this true?

 

 

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I think the view on political posting in the WC needs to be changed. I've seen civil discussions get locked or poofed while others have gone unchecked.

 

I'm not sure how the system could be fixed. Maybe less reliance on the notify button and more attention to threads.

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I think the view on political posting in the WC needs to be changed. I've seen civil discussions get locked or poofed while others have gone unchecked.

 

I'm not sure how the system could be fixed. Maybe less reliance on the notify button and more attention to threads.

 

I've wondered this as well. There may be such a fixation on enforcing the 'no politics' rule, sometimes the real intent of the discussion gets lost.

 

And why politics and not religion? Those two seem to have hard lines on beliefs that both can cause explosive engagements.

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Religion discussions don't get as explosive as politics-not even close.

 

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Any chance the marketplace could be eliminated entirely?

That would erase most of the butt hurt.

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Religion discussions don't get as explosive as politics-not even close.

 

Didn't a board member or two receive strikes recently for taking a hard-line stance on Catholics versus Muslims in the Water Cooler? About a month or two ago.

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Yes but the levels of insults and fist pounding is nothing like when people 'discuss' politics.

I mean people seriously lose their spoon over that stuff...

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Any chance the marketplace could be eliminated entirely?

That would erase most of the butt hurt.

 

And about 2/3 of the traffic.

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Any chance the marketplace could be eliminated entirely?

That would erase most of the butt hurt.

 

And about 2/3 of the traffic.

 

Traffic is not revenue.

Sell the sales forum to ebay or Amazon and jettison the headache

 

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