Where in the world was the Quality Control at CGC??? 44 44

[Wally's Comics]

Back by popular demand!

 

 

[musicmeta]

Best I could see on it is 6.0. I had it around 5.0/5.5 personally...

 

If it is an error, it makes sense that it was going to be a 5.0 and someone hit the 8 by accident as the 8 rests right above the 5 on the 10-key.

 

I would say human error. But agree that QC should have caught it.

 

Same here...6.0 at the very top.

[Wally's Comics]

Another exercise in fun!...

 

Guess the grade and then pop the window:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[namisgr]

Buy the book, sell the label, baby!

[Iceman399]

Sell it with the front cover scan only

[Wally's Comics]

Sell it with the front cover scan only

 

That's why I get so puzzled Comic Link only scans the front.

 

With their new website redesign I thought that would've been a must have...

 

maybe not.

 

 

[Iceman399]

CC has gone the same route as well. Someone pointed out that posting a back cover scan only hurts sales doesn't help it.

[aggr1103]

Squarebounds are tough to grade/judge IMO.

[Sensei Ryan]

Another exercise in fun!...

 

Guess the grade and then pop the window:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll be honest...I graded it at a 5.5/6.0 range before looking at the spoiler tag. I don't see what the problem is on the grading for this book - that's the range I would put it, myself.

[revat]

Another exercise in fun!...

 

Guess the grade and then pop the window:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll be honest...I graded it at a 5.5/6.0 range before looking at the spoiler tag. I don't see what the problem is on the grading for this book - that's the range I would put it, myself.

 

I would have guessed 5.- 5.5, but a six doesn't shock me, though it feels a bit high. The midrange is generally pretty tough to grade IMO

[TheLiamSturgess]

Another exercise in fun!...

 

Guess the grade and then pop the window:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll be honest...I graded it at a 5.5/6.0 range before looking at the spoiler tag. I don't see what the problem is on the grading for this book - that's the range I would put it, myself.

 

I'm actually in the same boat, and I'm no CGC apologist. I think they at least fell in the right range here

[thunsicker]

I would have put it at 5.0/5.0. So not too far off. Not as bad as that ASM, for instance.

[namisgr]

On another day, I could see that book getting a 4.5. The large color-breaking crease on the front cover by itself is enough to downgrade an otherwise-NM comic to 6.0. Add the rather large corner crunch that tears paper at the spine, and you've got a book that is realistically no better than a VG/F, to my way of grading.

[Red84]

I had the book as a 4.5

The big crease on top brought it down to a 6 and then the corner damage dropped it to a 4.5 for me.

[Hudson]

I have a few CGC 5.0 that would make that look like a rag in comparison.

 

Guess 3rd party grading is still an "art", not an absolute.

 

 

[the blob]

On another day, I could see that book getting a 4.5. The large color-breaking crease on the front cover by itself is enough to downgrade an otherwise-NM comic to 6.0. Add the rather large corner crunch that tears paper at the spine, and you've got a book that is realistically no better than a VG/F, to my way of grading.

 

I've seen 7.0s with a crease like that.

[the blob]

Wally that's terrible, I would not be very happy. A call would be made.

 

better yet, I have a conference in Orlando in a month, I thinking of driving over and

go talk to some one face to face about this.

 

seriously over the last four submissions of 15 books there has been at least 1 book

(sometimes more) that was messed up...

 

That's a seven to fourteen percent failure rate for me alone.

 

 

Hell, I have even nicer books that I'm almost afraid to slab because if this and that's just sad.

 

Honestly I'd be embarrassed if I was part of a company produced second-rate workman ship like this.

 

The problem that you are experiencing is nearly impossibly to remedy.

 

They could put something behind the front cover that goes out to the edge of the overhang, but that's complicated

 

If a comic book has an overhang and the book gets jostled in shipping there is a chance that the overhang is going to bend in the holder. That's what happened to the Surfer #4 and the Avengers #58.

 

And since they can't prevent the holder from being jostled once it leaves their hands (no amount of bubblewrap can change the laws of physics) the only other option is to not slab the books and reject them.

 

I could be wrong but that's how I see it.

[namisgr]

On another day, I could see that book getting a 4.5. The large color-breaking crease on the front cover by itself is enough to downgrade an otherwise-NM comic to 6.0. Add the rather large corner crunch that tears paper at the spine, and you've got a book that is realistically no better than a VG/F, to my way of grading.

 

I've seen 7.0s with a crease like that.

 

I haven't. That's what, a five inch color breaker?

 

When I was submitting a lot of comics and buying a lot of SA slabs, even a much smaller color breaking corner crease would take an otherwise pristine book down to a 7.0.

 

Regardless, if I'd submitted that comic I'd be astonished and thrilled at how it graded out, and if I'd bought it sight unseen as a 6.0 I'd be sorely disappointed. There's nothing 'fine' about it to me.

[Wally's Comics]

On another day, I could see that book getting a 4.5. The large color-breaking crease on the front cover by itself is enough to downgrade an otherwise-NM comic to 6.0. Add the rather large corner crunch that tears paper at the spine, and you've got a book that is realistically no better than a VG/F, to my way of grading.

 

I've seen 7.0s with a crease like that.

 

I haven't. That's what, a five inch color breaker?

 

When I was submitting a lot of comics and buying a lot of SA slabs, even a much smaller color breaking corner crease would take an otherwise pristine book down to a 7.0.

 

Regardless, if I'd submitted that comic I'd be astonished and thrilled at how it graded out, and if I'd bought it sight unseen as a 6.0 I'd be sorely disappointed. There's nothing 'fine' about it to me.

 

Yeah, with that corner smash and the dog eared BRC I'd be dancing in the street if I got a FN grade on this book.

 

Matter of fact I gotta a couple of key books that have a long crease like this that are raw and are absolute cherry other than that. I figured with that alone it was a 6.0 copy but now maybe it's an 8.5???

 

[THE_BEYONDER]

On another day, I could see that book getting a 4.5. The large color-breaking crease on the front cover by itself is enough to downgrade an otherwise-NM comic to 6.0. Add the rather large corner crunch that tears paper at the spine, and you've got a book that is realistically no better than a VG/F, to my way of grading.

 

I've seen 7.0s with a crease like that.

 

I haven't. That's what, a five inch color breaker?

 

When I was submitting a lot of comics and buying a lot of SA slabs, even a much smaller color breaking corner crease would take an otherwise pristine book down to a 7.0.

 

Regardless, if I'd submitted that comic I'd be astonished and thrilled at how it graded out, and if I'd bought it sight unseen as a 6.0 I'd be sorely disappointed. There's nothing 'fine' about it to me.

 

Yeah, with that corner smash and the dog eared BRC I'd be dancing in the street if I got a FN grade on this book.

 

Matter of fact I gotta a couple of key books that have a long crease like this that are raw and are absolute cherry other than that. I figured with that alone it was a 6.0 copy but now maybe it's an 8.5???

 

 

I remember it being established that an otherwise NM book with a sub-crease gets hammered down to 5.5