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10 hours ago, Sweet Lou 14 said:

I just looked at mine ...

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I mean, it's a run-of-the-mill, unspectacular cover for sure, and the two villains featured on the cover have not stood the test of time. Most importantly, as noted Dr. Strange isn't even teased on the cover, much less pictured.  Those who say the cover depresses the value of the book are not wrong.

But it's not like the cover is absolute dog-poop.  It's pretty representative of the Human Torch run -- neither better nor worse than most of them.  Actually, the more I stare at it the more I realize that its basic design is somewhat similar to that of two other big key books -- ASM #1 and FF #5.

I actually dont hate the cover its actually starting to grown on me.

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10 minutes ago, silversurfer275 said:

I actually dont hate the cover its actually starting to grown on me.

It is no better or worse than ASM #1 or FF#5. But I think the biggest thing obviously is Dr. Strange is not there. Not even his head in a corner bubble somewhere......

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3 minutes ago, Callaway29 said:

"The WIZARD"?! Who's this wizard guy... That's similar to FF48...a tease...

I don't even disagree that it's not the best. But it's beat down way too much because of it...that's my point.

But...the Wizard is referencing the villain on the cover...not Dr. Strange. ST 110 teases nothing about Dr. Strange at all!

At the least, FF#48 mentions Galactus' name. This has zero mention of Dr. Strange anywhere. And I will agree that FF#48 is a terrible cover. #49 is the best. #50 could have amazing sans the poo brown background. 

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1 minute ago, comicginger1789 said:

But...the Wizard is referencing the villain on the cover...not Dr. Strange.

At the least, FF#48 mentions Galactus' name. This has zero mention of Dr. Strange anywhere. And I will agree that FF#48 is a terrible cover. #49 is the best. #50 could have amazing sans the poo brown background. 

I think ff48 has a great cover it really fits the tone of the comic well and it makes you want to read it so see who galactus is 

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3 minutes ago, silversurfer275 said:

I think ff48 has a great cover it really fits the tone of the comic well and it makes you want to read it so see who galactus is 

Okay but to have the Watcher front an center? His look has always just made me laugh. I would have rathered a close up of the FF, with fear in their faces, looking front and off page at the coming of Galactus. I agree, the idea and concept and mentioning of Galactus all work to drive intrigue, but visually I am not fan and I think greater things could have happened here. 

I really cannot get behind 1/6 of my cover devoted to the Watcher's legs....

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2 minutes ago, comicginger1789 said:

Okay but to have the Watcher front an center? His look has always just made me laugh. I would have rathered a close up of the FF, with fear in their faces, looking front and off page at the coming of Galactus. I agree, the idea and concept and mentioning of Galactus all work to drive intrigue, but visually I am not fan and I think greater things could have happened here. 

yeah for sure Its not a cover for everyone 

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6 minutes ago, comicginger1789 said:

But...the Wizard is referencing the villain on the cover...not Dr. Strange. ST 110 teases nothing about Dr. Strange at all!

At the least, FF#48 mentions Galactus' name. This has zero mention of Dr. Strange anywhere. And I will agree that FF#48 is a terrible cover. #49 is the best. #50 could have amazing sans the poo brown background. 

valid point...i need coffee...

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3 minutes ago, silversurfer275 said:

yeah for sure Its not a cover for everyone 

I mean hindsight is 20/20...but imagine they had a cover similar to what I suggested (Kirby greatness up close and personal on the FF's faces, fear on the crowd behind them), then you have 49 which visually is a great cover, then #50 has a black background littered with stars. That 3 issue arc would be fantastic both as a story and visually IMO.

An artist should do that....re-imagine classic covers that are considered letdowns or even reimagine them in another way but drawn in a similar style. 

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10 minutes ago, bronze johnny said:


 

Agree 100%. I think it deserves all the value it has and possibly even more. My argument is not that it should be worth less because of a poor cover. My argument is simply it has a poor cover, like a lot of first appearances actually. 

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30 minutes ago, bronze johnny said:

Books like ST110 make this an interesting hobby. Dr. Strange is one of the great creations of the Marvel Silver Age. ST 110 doesn’t require him on the cover as much as Pep 22 didn’t have Archie bracing its cover. Dr. Strange’s first appearance and story inside the book is what defines it and makes it special for the same reason that first appearances in anthologies like Tales of Suspense instead of a first issue of a run are. The formula that results in a key book doesn’t necessarily require in the case of a first appearance, that the character be included on the cover to be awesome. It might be important for the “slab” focused collector? Let’s try and remember as collectors that it’s what’s inside the book that sometimes matters more than what’s on the cover. Unfortunately, there’s an inclination on the part of some, who because the book is encapsulated and will not be removed due its monetary value (understandable- I’m one of those), that all they can see is a cover and define the book on that basis. This can evolve into an implicitly biased view that we may not be aware of over time as we continue to look at the book through the “plastic lens.” Books published before third party grading, especially those that hit newsstands and candy stores during the Silver Age were intended to be read and viewed in their entirety by that generation of readers and by the posterity of comic book collectors that would later follow them. Let’s not lose sight of that and remember to include this view when we look at books like Strange Tales 110. One last thing and this goes out to the “investors” and flippers that jump into this hobby primarily for the money: you will never understand this since collecting comic books is a rich experience that gets better with time. The longer the time in most cases, the greater the experience (who can forget when Adventure Comics 247 was one of the biggest SA keys during the ‘80s?). I try explaining this to my “buy the comic because the movie is coming out friends.” This hobby is not defined by another medium despite the many successful shenanigans used by speculators. Sure, a quick buck is made when speculation of a book takes over. The “next hot book” crowd and the more sophisticated market (best word I can use since we really can’t have a market per se without some form of regulation to ensure fairness and transparency) manipulators who apply tactics to artificially inflate the value of a book continue to do their thing (see ebay). The means of comic book collecting also in many cases, justifies the ends. Just ask a true collector about the memories they have about first reading Strange Tales 110. It’s a memory that money can’t buy and one we take with us when the comic books are left behind for future generations so they can gain some insight into who we were and the times we lived in. Strange Tales 110 can bring meaning to my rephrasing the old adage about variety adding to the spice of comic book collecting. Finally, I’m not a big fan of ST 110 cover but it was always a must have for me because the good doctor is one of Marvel’s greatest and most unique SA creations.
 

john

It is a Classic also because of The Superior Weapon Villainy mastermind himself The Great Peter Petruski, Paste Pot Pete is on the Cover.. (Trapster maybe his current Moniker but He will always be Paste Pot Pete to Me)

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35 minutes ago, comicginger1789 said:

Agree 100%. I think it deserves all the value it has and possibly even more. My argument is not that it should be worth less because of a poor cover. My argument is simply it has a poor cover, like a lot of first appearances actually. 

It has the “Plan 9 From Outer Space” syndrome- so bad it’s classic! 

A SA unicorn is owning a Strange Tales 110 with a Blue CGC label reading “small amount of glue on cover.” A “Paste Pot Pete-agree”

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1 hour ago, bronze johnny said:

Books like ST110 make this an interesting hobby. Dr. Strange is one of the great creations of the Marvel Silver Age. ST 110 doesn’t require him on the cover as much as Pep 22 didn’t have Archie bracing its cover. Dr. Strange’s first appearance and story inside the book is what defines it and makes it special for the same reason that first appearances in anthologies like Tales of Suspense instead of a first issue of a run are. The formula that results in a key book doesn’t necessarily require in the case of a first appearance, that the character be included on the cover to be awesome. It might be important for the “slab” focused collector? Let’s try and remember as collectors that it’s what’s inside the book that sometimes matters more than what’s on the cover. Unfortunately, there’s an inclination on the part of some, who because the book is encapsulated and will not be removed due its monetary value (understandable- I’m one of those), that all they can see is a cover and define the book on that basis. This can evolve into an implicitly biased view that we may not be aware of over time as we continue to look at the book through the “plastic lens.” Books published before third party grading, especially those that hit newsstands and candy stores during the Silver Age were intended to be read and viewed in their entirety by that generation of readers and by the posterity of comic book collectors that would later follow them. Let’s not lose sight of that and remember to include this view when we look at books like Strange Tales 110. One last thing and this goes out to the “investors” and flippers that jump into this hobby primarily for the money: you will never understand this since collecting comic books is a rich experience that gets better with time. The longer the time in most cases, the greater the experience (who can forget when Adventure Comics 247 was one of the biggest SA keys during the ‘80s?). I try explaining this to my “buy the comic because the movie is coming out friends.” This hobby is not defined by another medium despite the many successful shenanigans used by speculators. Sure, a quick buck is made when speculation of a book takes over. The “next hot book” crowd and the more sophisticated market (best word I can use since we really can’t have a market per se without some form of regulation to ensure fairness and transparency) manipulators who apply tactics to artificially inflate the value of a book continue to do their thing (see ebay). The means of comic book collecting also in many cases, justifies the ends. Just ask a true collector about the memories they have about first reading Strange Tales 110. It’s a memory that money can’t buy and one we take with us when the comic books are left behind for future generations so they can gain some insight into who we were and the times we lived in. Strange Tales 110 can bring meaning to my rephrasing the old adage about variety adding to the spice of comic book collecting. Finally, I’m not a big fan of ST 110 cover but it was always a must have for me because the good doctor is one of Marvel’s greatest and most unique SA creations.
 

john

Beautifully written:tink:

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16 hours ago, bpc3qh said:

I actually like the cover to FF48; it may not have Galactus or the Silver Surfer on it, but it's still really cool.

I understand showing the "awe" of everyone at what was coming portrayed on #48 cover, but really, it was a weak cover IMO for such a major storyline/character introduction. But oh that #49 made up for it, such a great cover.

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