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Is Kamala Kahn 1st appearance Captain Marvel 14 or 17? I ask because everything that I see states issue 14.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ms._Marvel_(Kamala_Khan)

 

http://marvel.wikia.com/Kamala_Khan_(Earth-616)

 

http://www.comicvine.com/kamala-khan/4005-94118/

 

Is this another cameo vs 1st full debate with her?

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Is Kamala Kahn 1st appearance Captain Marvel 14 or 17? I ask because everything that I see states issue 14.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ms._Marvel_(Kamala_Khan)

 

http://marvel.wikia.com/Kamala_Khan_(Earth-616)

 

http://www.comicvine.com/kamala-khan/4005-94118/

 

Is this another cameo vs 1st full debate with her?

 

Below is her appearance in issue 14 (lady with earrings). Personally, I tend to stray towards Captain Marvel #17 2nd print with KK on the cover.

 

KK%20Image_zpslrs87hse.jpg]KK 1st Appearance[/url]

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Is Kamala Kahn 1st appearance Captain Marvel 14 or 17? I ask because everything that I see states issue 14.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ms._Marvel_(Kamala_Khan)

 

http://marvel.wikia.com/Kamala_Khan_(Earth-616)

 

http://www.comicvine.com/kamala-khan/4005-94118/

 

Is this another cameo vs 1st full debate with her?

 

Below is her appearance in issue 14 (lady with earrings). Personally, I tend to stray towards Captain Marvel #17 2nd print with KK on the cover.

 

KK%20Image_zpslrs87hse.jpg]KK 1st Appearance[/url]

 

That doesn't even look like her at all. (shrug)

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That's OK, that barely looks like Captain Marvel either.

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Captain Marvel #14 is "technically" the 1st appearance, but it's just a one panel cameo as you see above.

 

Captain Marvel #17 is a last page cameo, BUT she's not named nor do you see her face.

 

Captain Marvel #17 2nd Print trumps both of the other books because she's on the cover in costume. This is more of a 1st appearance than the other two.

 

HOWEVER - All-New Marvel Now! Point One #1 is what I would consider her 1st full appearance. This is the first Kamala Khan story and the first time the character is named.

 

Just my opinion, but I think I'm right. lol

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This is the extent of her appearance in Captain Marvel #17:

 

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If a cover can be labeled a 1st appearance and not pinups or full body shots (cameos) then CGC and how we rate 1st appearances is all screwed up.

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So she has 2 cameos 1 in 14 and 1 in 17

Yup. The cameo in #14 is tenuous at best.

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If a 2nd print cover appearance makes an interior cameo a 1st full appearance then welcome to crazy town I guess.

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If I had to rank in order of importance:

 

1. Captain Marvel #17 2nd Print

2. All-New Marvel Now! Point One #1

3-TIE. Captain Marvel #14 / Captain Marvel #17

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If a 2nd print cover appearance makes an interior cameo a 1st full appearance then welcome to crazy town I guess.

 

 

:facepalm::pullhair:

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Is this situation clear as mud now? :eek:

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If a 2nd print cover appearance makes an interior cameo a 1st full appearance then welcome to crazy town I guess.

The market loves to ordain cover appearances as 1st appearances even when they aren't (Incredible Hulk #181, Uncanny X-Men #266, Avengers #196, etc.)

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The argument for this cover is that it is the first time you ever see her in costume.

 

kamala-khan-first-costume-appearance.jpg

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Is this situation clear as mud now? :eek:

 

This really doesn't make sense. I can't wrap my head around this.

 

Captain Marvel 17 CGC label reads 2nd appearance of Kamala Kahn in cameo on last page

 

2nd Captain Marvel 17 CGC print label reads Ms. Marvel Kamala Kahn cover. Pre-dates Ms. Marvel #1 (4/14)

 

Captain Marvel 14 CGC label reads 1st appearance of Kamala Khan in one panel cameo

 

 

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If I had to rank in order of importance:

 

1. Captain Marvel #17 2nd Print

2. All-New Marvel Now! Point One #1

3-TIE. Captain Marvel #14 / Captain Marvel #17

 

So her 1st appearance is a reprint, her 2nd appearance is her 1st appearance and her (tied)

3rd appearance is 2 cameos that appeared before both of those?

 

:ohnoez:

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The argument for this cover is that it is the first time you ever see her in costume.

 

kamala-khan-first-costume-appearance.jpg

 

Then we were all shammed

 

Hulk 180

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