Bosco685 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) Edited March 25, 2019 by Bosco685 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 (edited) oh, and Aquaman profit >$247MM (#6 Venom) Every year when the NCAA tips off its men’s basketball tournament, Deadline launches its annual survey to show which film from the previous calendar year made the most money. This is the contest’s fifth installment, and this time the threshold for entry into Deadline’s Most Valuable Blockbuster tournament is a domestic gross exceeding $215 million. (this may have been a red herring, Venom should be on this list despite the <$215MM US) My guesses: #1 Avengers: IW #2 Black Panther #3 Jurassic World #4 Bohemian Rhapsody $350MM #5 Incredibles 2 Aquaman $260MM #6 Aquaman Venom $247MM (apparently Deadline can't even keep their own criteria straight) #7 Deadpool $235MM #8 Grinch Jurassic World $222MM ($200MM in participations Spielberg ) #9 MI: Fallout Grinch $185MM #10 A Star is Born $178MM profit Edited April 1, 2019 by paperheart ComicConnoisseur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Robin wanted to celebrate. ComicConnoisseur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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media_junkie Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Ok, so I finally saw this movie. My son said it was great so I had pre-ordered the Blu Ray, and watched it last night. Jason Maoma (sp?) was extremely charismatic and he did a great job. However overall I found the movie average, not great (or even good), I certainly don't see what all the hype was about. This is not a movie I will end of watching again, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, media_junkie said: Ok, so I finally saw this movie. My son said it was great so I had pre-ordered the Blu Ray, and watched it last night. Jason Maoma (sp?) was extremely charismatic and he did a great job. However overall I found the movie average, not great (or even good), I certainly don't see what all the hype was about. This is not a movie I will end of watching again, ever. Mail address via PM so we get that out of your way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 14 hours ago, media_junkie said: Ok, so I finally saw this movie. My son said it was great so I had pre-ordered the Blu Ray, and watched it last night. Jason Maoma (sp?) was extremely charismatic and he did a great job. However overall I found the movie average, not great (or even good), I certainly don't see what all the hype was about. This is not a movie I will end of watching again, ever. I wouldn't say that Aquaman was hyped. Word of mouth spread that it's a good movie - and it is. It suffers from some ecological tropes, as a modern Aquaman film always would, but it's an overall fun film. Aquaman was a punching bag of comic book heroes. The big screen put him on another radar. If you don't see why this was successful, well, I can't really do much else in the way of pointing you down the correct path. To each their own. jason4, Bosco685 and ComicConnoisseur 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) https://deadline.com/2019/03/aquaman-box-office-profit-2018-1202584701/ Let's see if i can do the math here: $900MM Break-even , $1.150MM BO, $260MM profit. So on the last $250MM of box office, profit was $260MM. Margins even Warren Buffet could love. #dogscan'tdomath Edited March 29, 2019 by paperheart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, paperheart said: https://deadline.com/2019/03/aquaman-box-office-profit-2018-1202584701/ Let's see if i can do the math here: $900MM Break-even , $1.150MM BO, $260MM profit. So on the last $250MM of box office, profit was $260MM. Margins even Warren Buffet could love. #dogscan'tdomath This includes ancillaries, genius. And also reveals an all in budget closer to $350MM. Even more idiotic than originally estimated. -J. Edited March 29, 2019 by Jaydogrules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Just now, Jaydogrules said: This includes ancilliaries, genius. -J. profit dollars spend the same everywhere. Madoff CFO created profits out of wholecloth, our certifiable board mongrel is the bizarro version, creates no profit out of millions. #dogscan'taddwitheitherpaw theCapraAegagrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, paperheart said: profit dollars spend the same everywhere. Madoff CFO created profits out of wholecloth, our certifiable board mongrel is the bizarro version, creates no profit out of millions. #dogscan'taddwitheitherpaw Well since my estimates (which actually turned out to be fairly close) did not pretend to include or even know the ancillary costs/profits, your comment is, as is quite often, off base. Also, $150MM more spent by Aquaman to make less than $15MM more in profit (compared to Venom).... Yeah, that's a real intelligent way to make a movie. -J. Edited March 29, 2019 by Jaydogrules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 WB turning down $260MM Aquaman profit because it couldn't match Venom's 29 RT score 2 minutes ago, Jaydogrules said: Well since my estimates (actually turned out to be fairly close) did not pretend to include or even know the ancillary costs/profits, your comment is, as is quite often, off base. Also, $150MM more spent by Aquaman to make less than $20MM more in profit (compared to Venom).... Yeah, that's a real intelligent way to make a movie. -J. WB donating $260MM profit to charity because it couldn't match Venom's 29RT score. $227MM all in/29 = $7.8MM per RT point. Bravo!! Hop back over to Deadline, industry insiders are dying to hear more comparisons of Aquaman to Justice League Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, paperheart said: WB turning down $260MM Aquaman profit because it couldn't match Venom's 29 RT score WB donating $260MM profit to charity because it couldn't match Venom's 29RT score. $227MM all in/29 = $7.8MM per RT point. Bravo!! Hop back over to Deadline, industry insiders are dying to hear more comparisons of Aquaman to Justice League Dude, seriously, nobody cares about RT scores and I don't even know what your point is supposed to be anymore. But what I do know is, because of the stupidity of Aquaman's big dumb budget, and the way movie math works, a $1.1B dollar gross translated to less than a measly $15MM in additional net profit as compared to Venom's $855MM gross and net profits. So put that in your pipe and smoke it. -J. Edited March 29, 2019 by Jaydogrules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 37 minutes ago, Jaydogrules said: Dude, seriously, nobody cares about RT scores and I don't even know what your point is supposed to be anymore. But what I do know is, because of the stupidity of Aquaman's big dumb budget, and the way movie math works, a $1.1B dollar gross translated to less than a measly $15MM in additional net profit as compared to Venom's $855MM gross and net profits. So put that in your pipe and smoke it. -J. $260MM, this is the only # that WB cares about. #breakeven900MM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, paperheart said: $260MM, this is the only # that WB cares about. #breakeven900MM Okay. Did you even look at the chart? $275MM of the profits are post-theatrical ancillaries which amounts to nearly the entirety of its profit margin. So YES- this horrible movie indeed needed about $900MM theatrically to reach the break even point. -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jaydogrules said: Okay. Did you even look at the chart? $275MM of the profits are post-theatrical ancillaries which amounts to nearly the entirety of its profit margin. So YES- this horrible movie indeed needed about $900MM theatrically to reach the break even point. -J. i can read an income statement, i can also recreate a break even income statement using the exact ratios and fixed costs from this one, but you keep flying blind #mathisnthathardtryharder $207MM US BO (29% of total) $321MM Int'l ex China (45% of total) $185MM China (26% of total) Total WW BO: $713MM Global Theatrical $285MM (39.7% of WW BO) WW Home Entertainment $70 (9.8% of WW BO) Global TV net $103MM (14.4% of WW BO) Total Revenue: $458MM Production Cost: $200MM WW Prints & Ads: $148MM Video Costs: $24MM (34% of WW Home Entertainment) Participations: $30MM Residuals etc: $24MM Interest: $32MM Total Costs: $458MM Net Profit: $0 Thus endeth the lesson. Edited March 30, 2019 by paperheart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drotto Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 3 hours ago, paperheart said: i can read an income statement, i can also recreate a break even income statement using the exact ratios and fixed costs from this one, but you keep flying blind #mathisnthathardtryharder $207MM US BO (29% of total) $321MM Int'l ex China (45% of total) $185MM China (26% of total) Total WW BO: $713MM Global Theatrical $285MM (39.7% of WW BO) WW Home Entertainment $70 (9.8% of WW BO) Global TV net $103MM (14.4% of WW BO) Total Revenue: $458MM Production Cost: $200MM WW Prints & Ads: $148MM Video Costs: $24MM (34% of WW Home Entertainment) Participations: $30MM Residuals etc: $24MM Interest: $32MM Total Costs: $458MM Net Profit: $0 Thus endeth the lesson. Studio math basically makes sure 90% of movies lose money on paper so they can take the tax write off. I have seen it explained extensively, and it makes you shake your head how borderline criminal the practice is. ComicConnoisseur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicConnoisseur Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Re-watched Aquaman over the weekend. In order how I liked the DC Cinematic Universe movies. 1. Aquaman 2. Wonder Woman 3. Man of Steel 4. Justice League 5. BvS. Haven`t seen Shazam yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, ComicConnoisseur said: Re-watched Aquaman over the weekend. In order how I liked the DC Cinematic Universe movies. 1. Aquaman 2. Wonder Woman 3. Man of Steel 4. Justice League 5. BvS. Haven`t seen Shazam yet. you forgot Green Lantern and Suicide Squad (Not a hoax! Not a dream!...) Edited April 2, 2019 by paperheart ComicConnoisseur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 13 hours ago, ComicConnoisseur said: Re-watched Aquaman over the weekend. In order how I liked the DC Cinematic Universe movies. 1. Aquaman 2. Wonder Woman 3. Man of Steel 4. Justice League 5. BvS. Haven`t seen Shazam yet. You're insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
