Chip Cataldo Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Throw M. Night Shamalamadingdong in there before he started to suck, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoddler Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 Jason Momoa isn't a star and nobody has gone to see a movie just because of the director since Alfred Hitchcock. I can't believe anybody actually thinks this is a good idea. This movie is going to tank. -J. Chris Hemsworth, Chris Pratt, Chris Evans... man lots of Chris's... Henry Cavill... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro. Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Drogo, King of the Seas. Should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Jason Momoa isn't a star and nobody has gone to see a movie just because of the director since Alfred Hitchcock. I can't believe anybody actually thinks this is a good idea. This movie is going to tank. -J. Chris Hemsworth, Chris Pratt, Chris Evans... man lots of Chris's... Henry Cavill... Those guys are "stars"? They're just dudes who have been lucky enough to get cast in some successful movies that would have been successful regardless. -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoddler Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 Jason Momoa isn't a star and nobody has gone to see a movie just because of the director since Alfred Hitchcock. I can't believe anybody actually thinks this is a good idea. This movie is going to tank. -J. Chris Hemsworth, Chris Pratt, Chris Evans... man lots of Chris's... Henry Cavill... Those guys are "stars"? They're just dudes who have been lucky enough to get cast in some successful movies that would have been successful regardless. -J. No, that's my point exactly. Those dudes aren't stars, and yet they're in comic movies that are very successful and entertaining... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) Jason Momoa isn't a star and nobody has gone to see a movie just because of the director since Alfred Hitchcock. I can't believe anybody actually thinks this is a good idea. This movie is going to tank. -J. Chris Hemsworth, Chris Pratt, Chris Evans... man lots of Chris's... Henry Cavill... Those guys are "stars"? They're just dudes who have been lucky enough to get cast in some successful movies that would have been successful regardless. -J. No, that's my point exactly. Those dudes aren't stars, and yet they're in comic movies that are very successful and entertaining... He missed it. As long as the -script is strong and the tie in with BvS then the JLA flicks for the character works, the movie will do well whether JM is a star or not. Edited June 5, 2015 by kimik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Jason Momoa isn't a star and nobody has gone to see a movie just because of the director since Alfred Hitchcock. I can't believe anybody actually thinks this is a good idea. This movie is going to tank. -J. Chris Hemsworth, Chris Pratt, Chris Evans... man lots of Chris's... Henry Cavill... Those guys are "stars"? They're just dudes who have been lucky enough to get cast in some successful movies that would have been successful regardless. -J. No, that's my point exactly. Those dudes aren't stars, and yet they're in comic movies that are very successful and entertaining... He missed it. As long as the -script is strong and the tie in with BvS then the JLA flicks for the character works, the movie will do well whether JM is a star or not. No , he missed it. No such movie can be concocted around this character. And the MOS -script was "strong"? What ? -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoddler Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 Jason Momoa isn't a star and nobody has gone to see a movie just because of the director since Alfred Hitchcock. I can't believe anybody actually thinks this is a good idea. This movie is going to tank. -J. Chris Hemsworth, Chris Pratt, Chris Evans... man lots of Chris's... Henry Cavill... Those guys are "stars"? They're just dudes who have been lucky enough to get cast in some successful movies that would have been successful regardless. -J. No, that's my point exactly. Those dudes aren't stars, and yet they're in comic movies that are very successful and entertaining... He missed it. As long as the -script is strong and the tie in with BvS then the JLA flicks for the character works, the movie will do well whether JM is a star or not. No , he missed it. No such movie can be concocted around this character. And the MOS -script was "strong"? What ? -J. the argument you're making here is different than the ones you made earlier... But I understand why Aquaman gets no love, which is why I'm doubly rooting for this movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kagenish Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 if all of the movies that come out before aquaman are good and if movie audience like aquaman then the movie should be ok at the box office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Jason Momoa isn't a star and nobody has gone to see a movie just because of the director since Alfred Hitchcock. I can't believe anybody actually thinks this is a good idea. This movie is going to tank. -J. Chris Hemsworth, Chris Pratt, Chris Evans... man lots of Chris's... Henry Cavill... Those guys are "stars"? They're just dudes who have been lucky enough to get cast in some successful movies that would have been successful regardless. -J. No, that's my point exactly. Those dudes aren't stars, and yet they're in comic movies that are very successful and entertaining... He missed it. As long as the -script is strong and the tie in with BvS then the JLA flicks for the character works, the movie will do well whether JM is a star or not. No , he missed it. No such movie can be concocted around this character. And the MOS -script was "strong"? What ? -J. the argument you're making here is different than the ones you made earlier... But I understand why Aquaman gets no love, which is why I'm doubly rooting for this movie! The thrust of my original post was that because Momoa is no star and nobody cares about James Wan or how much money Furious 7 made, this movie about "Aquaman" (in quotes, because whatever Momoa was supposed to be dressed as in that one picture sure as hell was not Aquaman) has no chance of being anything other than laughable and a waste of both money and fan goodwill IMO. Marvel got lucky with GOTG. They are probably pushing their luck with Ant-man. And DC ain't no Marvel when it comes to making decent super hero movies as it is. -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoddler Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 Jason Momoa isn't a star and nobody has gone to see a movie just because of the director since Alfred Hitchcock. I can't believe anybody actually thinks this is a good idea. This movie is going to tank. -J. Chris Hemsworth, Chris Pratt, Chris Evans... man lots of Chris's... Henry Cavill... Those guys are "stars"? They're just dudes who have been lucky enough to get cast in some successful movies that would have been successful regardless. -J. No, that's my point exactly. Those dudes aren't stars, and yet they're in comic movies that are very successful and entertaining... He missed it. As long as the -script is strong and the tie in with BvS then the JLA flicks for the character works, the movie will do well whether JM is a star or not. No , he missed it. No such movie can be concocted around this character. And the MOS -script was "strong"? What ? -J. the argument you're making here is different than the ones you made earlier... But I understand why Aquaman gets no love, which is why I'm doubly rooting for this movie! The thrust of my original post was that because Momoa is no star and nobody cares about James Wan or how much money Furious 7 made, this movie about "Aquaman" (in quotes, because whatever Momoa was supposed to be dressed as in that one picture sure as hell was not Aquaman) has no chance of being anything other than laughable and a waste of both money and fan goodwill in my opinion. Marvel got lucky with GOTG. They are probably pushing their luck with Ant-man. And DC ain't no Marvel when it comes to making decent super hero movies as it is. -J. We're kind of talking in circles now, but that's okay. It's been shown that a comic movie doesn't need to have a star or a name director for it to be successful and entertaining. I don't see how anyone can dismiss out of hand the possibility that an Aquaman movie could also have a similar chance of success. It really depends on the -script, the director and lightning in a bottle. But to say years ahead of its release (before a -script, or a trailer or much of anything really) that it has "no chance" is a pretty strong statement. Heck, the movie might still not even get made! Still, I respect the dogged hate on you have for this film. It's good to be passionate about our hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanfingh Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 There is one really good story for an Aquaman (or Namor for that matter) movie. You roll the credits with the star-crossed love of the parents and show the kid going down to Atlantis. You can do 15-20 minutes on how weird and cool, and different Atlantis is. Then you reveal the threat to Atlantis (which likely threatens the landlubbers too.) Aquaman (or Namor) goes to America and is a fish out of water for 30-40 minutes, even becoming a target of the American military if it is perceived that he is tied to the "threat." He proves he is a hero, kicks the snot out of the threat, hopefully makes out with Wonder Woman and/or Mera. Roll credits. 700 MM worldwide. Boom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 There is one really good story for an Aquaman (or Namor for that matter) movie. You roll the credits with the star-crossed love of the parents and show the kid going down to Atlantis. You can do 15-20 minutes on how weird and cool, and different Atlantis is. Then you reveal the threat to Atlantis (which likely threatens the landlubbers too.) Aquaman (or Namor) goes to America and is a fish out of water for 30-40 minutes, even becoming a target of the American military if it is perceived that he is tied to the "threat." He proves he is a hero, kicks the snot out of the threat, hopefully makes out with Wonder Woman and/or Mera. Roll credits. 700 MM worldwide. Boom. Sounds like a cross between "The Little Mermaid" and "Splash". -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Jason Momoa isn't a star and nobody has gone to see a movie just because of the director since Alfred Hitchcock. I can't believe anybody actually thinks this is a good idea. This movie is going to tank. -J. Chris Hemsworth, Chris Pratt, Chris Evans... man lots of Chris's... Henry Cavill... Those guys are "stars"? They're just dudes who have been lucky enough to get cast in some successful movies that would have been successful regardless. -J. No, that's my point exactly. Those dudes aren't stars, and yet they're in comic movies that are very successful and entertaining... He missed it. As long as the -script is strong and the tie in with BvS then the JLA flicks for the character works, the movie will do well whether JM is a star or not. No , he missed it. No such movie can be concocted around this character. And the MOS -script was "strong"? What ? -J. the argument you're making here is different than the ones you made earlier... But I understand why Aquaman gets no love, which is why I'm doubly rooting for this movie! The thrust of my original post was that because Momoa is no star and nobody cares about James Wan or how much money Furious 7 made, this movie about "Aquaman" (in quotes, because whatever Momoa was supposed to be dressed as in that one picture sure as hell was not Aquaman) has no chance of being anything other than laughable and a waste of both money and fan goodwill in my opinion. Marvel got lucky with GOTG. They are probably pushing their luck with Ant-man. And DC ain't no Marvel when it comes to making decent super hero movies as it is. -J. We're kind of talking in circles now, but that's okay. It's been shown that a comic movie doesn't need to have a star or a name director for it to be successful and entertaining. I don't see how anyone can dismiss out of hand the possibility that an Aquaman movie could also have a similar chance of success. It really depends on the -script, the director and lightning in a bottle. But to say years ahead of its release (before a -script, or a trailer or much of anything really) that it has "no chance" is a pretty strong statement. Heck, the movie might still not even get made! Still, I respect the dogged hate on you have for this film. It's good to be passionate about our hobby. No hate. I would just rather see them get a Superman movie right before they start trying to over-reach and delve into these other C list characters. Honestly I don't think the "Wonder Woman" movie will work well either. Some characters just don't translate well, and I think she will be another one. -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanfingh Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 There is one really good story for an Aquaman (or Namor for that matter) movie. You roll the credits with the star-crossed love of the parents and show the kid going down to Atlantis. You can do 15-20 minutes on how weird and cool, and different Atlantis is. Then you reveal the threat to Atlantis (which likely threatens the landlubbers too.) Aquaman (or Namor) goes to America and is a fish out of water for 30-40 minutes, even becoming a target of the American military if it is perceived that he is tied to the "threat." He proves he is a hero, kicks the snot out of the threat, hopefully makes out with Wonder Woman and/or Mera. Roll credits. 700 MM worldwide. Boom. Sounds like a cross between "The Little Mermaid" and "Splash". -J. More like a cross between Awesome and Holy mess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterio Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Jason Momoa isn't a star and nobody has gone to see a movie just because of the director since Alfred Hitchcock. I can't believe anybody actually thinks this is a good idea. This movie is going to tank. -J. Chris Hemsworth, Chris Pratt, Chris Evans... man lots of Chris's... Henry Cavill... Those guys are "stars"? They're just dudes who have been lucky enough to get cast in some successful movies that would have been successful regardless. -J. No, that's my point exactly. Those dudes aren't stars, and yet they're in comic movies that are very successful and entertaining... He missed it. As long as the -script is strong and the tie in with BvS then the JLA flicks for the character works, the movie will do well whether JM is a star or not. No , he missed it. No such movie can be concocted around this character. And the MOS -script was "strong"? What ? -J. the argument you're making here is different than the ones you made earlier... But I understand why Aquaman gets no love, which is why I'm doubly rooting for this movie! The thrust of my original post was that because Momoa is no star and nobody cares about James Wan or how much money Furious 7 made, this movie about "Aquaman" (in quotes, because whatever Momoa was supposed to be dressed as in that one picture sure as hell was not Aquaman) has no chance of being anything other than laughable and a waste of both money and fan goodwill IMO. Marvel got lucky with GOTG. They are probably pushing their luck with Ant-man. And DC ain't no Marvel when it comes to making decent super hero movies as it is. -J. Marvel at least started from zero with GOTG. Nobody had ever heard of them, and thus had no preconceptions, positive or negative. Aquaman has been the butt of a joke for what, 20 years? Even the Big Bang cast pretty routinely make fun of Aquaman (or at least used to, haven't seen it in about two years). In making his film DC has to overcome a ton of outright dismissal of Aquaman as a cool and interesting character. Average guy on the street will definitely see a Batman or Superman film. But Aquaman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Jason Momoa isn't a star and nobody has gone to see a movie just because of the director since Alfred Hitchcock. I can't believe anybody actually thinks this is a good idea. This movie is going to tank. -J. Chris Hemsworth, Chris Pratt, Chris Evans... man lots of Chris's... Henry Cavill... Those guys are "stars"? They're just dudes who have been lucky enough to get cast in some successful movies that would have been successful regardless. -J. No, that's my point exactly. Those dudes aren't stars, and yet they're in comic movies that are very successful and entertaining... He missed it. As long as the -script is strong and the tie in with BvS then the JLA flicks for the character works, the movie will do well whether JM is a star or not. No , he missed it. No such movie can be concocted around this character. And the MOS -script was "strong"? What ? -J. the argument you're making here is different than the ones you made earlier... But I understand why Aquaman gets no love, which is why I'm doubly rooting for this movie! The thrust of my original post was that because Momoa is no star and nobody cares about James Wan or how much money Furious 7 made, this movie about "Aquaman" (in quotes, because whatever Momoa was supposed to be dressed as in that one picture sure as hell was not Aquaman) has no chance of being anything other than laughable and a waste of both money and fan goodwill IMO. Marvel got lucky with GOTG. They are probably pushing their luck with Ant-man. And DC ain't no Marvel when it comes to making decent super hero movies as it is. -J. Marvel at least started from zero with GOTG. Nobody had ever heard of them, and thus had no preconceptions, positive or negative. Aquaman has been the butt of a joke for what, 20 years? Even the Big Bang cast pretty routinely make fun of Aquaman (or at least used to, haven't seen it in about two years). In making his film DC has to overcome a ton of outright dismissal of Aquaman as a cool and interesting character. Average guy on the street will definitely see a Batman or Superman film. But Aquaman? +1 That is the gist of what I was trying to say earlier. The fact that "Jason Momoa" (*yawn*) is the "star" and James Wan (who cares?) is the director, will not hardly be enough to overcome any of that. -J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoddler Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 Jason Momoa isn't a star and nobody has gone to see a movie just because of the director since Alfred Hitchcock. I can't believe anybody actually thinks this is a good idea. This movie is going to tank. -J. Chris Hemsworth, Chris Pratt, Chris Evans... man lots of Chris's... Henry Cavill... Those guys are "stars"? They're just dudes who have been lucky enough to get cast in some successful movies that would have been successful regardless. -J. No, that's my point exactly. Those dudes aren't stars, and yet they're in comic movies that are very successful and entertaining... He missed it. As long as the -script is strong and the tie in with BvS then the JLA flicks for the character works, the movie will do well whether JM is a star or not. No , he missed it. No such movie can be concocted around this character. And the MOS -script was "strong"? What ? -J. the argument you're making here is different than the ones you made earlier... But I understand why Aquaman gets no love, which is why I'm doubly rooting for this movie! The thrust of my original post was that because Momoa is no star and nobody cares about James Wan or how much money Furious 7 made, this movie about "Aquaman" (in quotes, because whatever Momoa was supposed to be dressed as in that one picture sure as hell was not Aquaman) has no chance of being anything other than laughable and a waste of both money and fan goodwill in my opinion. Marvel got lucky with GOTG. They are probably pushing their luck with Ant-man. And DC ain't no Marvel when it comes to making decent super hero movies as it is. -J. We're kind of talking in circles now, but that's okay. It's been shown that a comic movie doesn't need to have a star or a name director for it to be successful and entertaining. I don't see how anyone can dismiss out of hand the possibility that an Aquaman movie could also have a similar chance of success. It really depends on the -script, the director and lightning in a bottle. But to say years ahead of its release (before a -script, or a trailer or much of anything really) that it has "no chance" is a pretty strong statement. Heck, the movie might still not even get made! Still, I respect the dogged hate on you have for this film. It's good to be passionate about our hobby. No hate. I would just rather see them get a Superman movie right before they start trying to over-reach and delve into these other C list characters. Honestly I don't think the "Wonder Woman" movie will work well either. Some characters just don't translate well, and I think she will be another one. -J. (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 The thrust of my original post was that because Momoa is no star and nobody cares about James Wan or how much money Furious 7 made, this movie about "Aquaman" (in quotes, because whatever Momoa was supposed to be dressed as in that one picture sure as hell was not Aquaman) has no chance of being anything other than laughable and a waste of both money and fan goodwill IMO. Marvel got lucky with GOTG. They are probably pushing their luck with Ant-man. And DC ain't no Marvel when it comes to making decent super hero movies as it is. -J. To the bolded part: a-frikin'-men, brother. And I'm inclined to agree with the rest too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kagenish Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 i think what would make or break his movie would how his done in cameo in BvS and his first full movie in JL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
