DARK KNIGHT III VARIANT COVERS ... worth the $$? 1 1

[Khazano]

I was really tempted to get the Allred cover from Simon. I loved it. BUT, I kept thinking, if the book reads like DKR2 did, the whole piece would then be spoiled for me. 3k+ is too much to gamble on the current Miller's writing style.

[Nexus]

With DK3, which cover will prevail as the one that people remember most to the series and story more so than any scarcity or value?

 

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the variants are not incentive variants (e.g. 1:50, 1:100). They're store variants, so they're store specific. Most collectors will only see the regular cover on the stands, along with their store's variant (if their store got one).

 

 

[Eric Seffinga]

Or if the store has a web presence, and people order them from the individual stores. Most artists posting about their variant are posting where it is to be available from. But as you say, the regular cover is going to be what is remembered if anything is.

[NelsonAI]

 

Most collectors will see all the variant covers through this thing we call the internet.

 

The limited edition deluxe leather bound hardcover signed and numbered by Frank will surely include all the variants.

 

The fact that we are previewing and discussing specific covers when the comics have not been released yet tells you of the interest of fans from the original series. The panning of DK2 doesn't diminish the anticipation of Frank Miller's "next" project. DC is of course hedging it's bet by teaming him up with a co-writer and having someone else handle the artistic chores.

 

I didn't see any variant covers with a DK2 theme or anything hinting at DK3. The variant covers themselves are flashbacks to the original DK series in an attempt to evoke nostalgia.

 

It will be interesting to see what the next wave of variants will look like.

 

Cheers!

N.

 

 

 

 

[Solar]

With DK3, which cover will prevail as the one that people remember most to the series and story more so than any scarcity or value?

 

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the variants are not incentive variants (e.g. 1:50, 1:100). They're store variants, so they're store specific. Most collectors will only see the regular cover on the stands, along with their store's variant (if their store got one).

 

 

It's a mix of incentive variants at the usual tiers (including a Jim Lee original head sketch variant at something absurd like 1:2000) and retailer variants.

 

DK III has passed the point of no return for variants and won't have any one memorable cover, except MAYBE the regular, IMO.

[Captain Canuck]

Most collectors will see all the variant covers through this thing we call the internet.

 

The limited edition deluxe leather bound hardcover signed and numbered by Frank will surely include all the variants.

 

The fact that we are previewing and discussing specific covers when the comics have not been released yet tells you of the interest of fans from the original series. The panning of DK2 doesn't diminish the anticipation of Frank Miller's "next" project. DC is of course hedging it's bet by teaming him up with a co-writer and having someone else handle the artistic chores.

 

I didn't see any variant covers with a DK2 theme or anything hinting at DK3. The variant covers themselves are flashbacks to the original DK series in an attempt to evoke nostalgia.

 

It will be interesting to see what the next wave of variants will look like.

 

Cheers!

N.

 

 

 

What signed Miller collection? I am planning on picking up the hard bound collection 2 weeks after each issue is released, just easier to read it in that format.

[NelsonAI]

 

Don't worry, there will be a Miller signed and numbered edition at some point. DC will wait to see what the fan reaction to the series is first.

[Nexus]

Most collectors will see all the variant covers through this thing we call the internet.

 

Bold added since you missed it the first time :

 

Most collectors will only see the regular cover on the stands, along with their store's variant (if their store got one).

 

 

Meaning, seeing the actual physical covers on the stands is what will make the biggest impact, long-term (to the extent, as Eric notes, that anyone still cares down the line).

 

Agree with everything else. As I understand it, the artists who have been commissioned for variants didn't know much about the DK3 project, other than it's a sequel. So that's why everything's been an homage to DKR (although Josh Middleton threw in a Wonder Woman from DK2 on his piece). At the same time...DC has to know that's what fans want. A win-win for DC as well as the artists whose originals become that much more sellable.

 

[delekkerste]

DK III has passed the point of no return for variants and won't have any one memorable cover, except MAYBE the regular, IMO.

 

+1

 

Not that it was a great series, but even the DK2 covers (which didn't have a gazillion variants) aren't that memorable. I don't think anybody's going to be looking back at all these DK III variant covers with some huge sense of nostalgia like we did with the four iconic DKR covers.

 

IMO, these DK III OA covers are all priced for perfection and should only be bought if you truly love the art. Let's face it - at best DK III is going to be the (decent) "Skyfall" to DKR's (great) "Casino Royale" and DK2's (terrible) "Quantum of Solace". Fast forward a few years from now when the series is done and the hype has died down and most of these covers won't be worth what people paid for them at the peak of the pre-release anticipation/hype. Trying to justify the prices is a waste of time - it's all about timing.

[Nexus]

With DK3, which cover will prevail as the one that people remember most to the series and story more so than any scarcity or value?

 

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the variants are not incentive variants (e.g. 1:50, 1:100). They're store variants, so they're store specific. Most collectors will only see the regular cover on the stands, along with their store's variant (if their store got one).

 

 

It's a mix of incentive variants at the usual tiers (including a Jim Lee original head sketch variant at something absurd like 1:2000) and retailer variants.

 

DK III has passed the point of no return for variants and won't have any one memorable cover, except MAYBE the regular, IMO.

 

That's really what I was getting at...the regular one will be the most "important" one (unless Miller does one, so long as it's not atrocious). Both because it's the default cover, and will be the most widely seen, and because it's by a well-respected artist who's also doing the story.

[zhamlau]

I'm always amazed there isn't a Miller 1:2000 sketch edition, or a numbered to /100 Hard bound head sketch collected editions of earlier books, or this. I mean, pay frank 200 bucks a sketch, sell the book $799 you could move 100 units and im sure they would sell.

 

Guess Frank just isnt into sketching for pay.

[Nexus]

I'm always amazed there isn't a Miller 1:2000 sketch edition, or a numbered to /100 Hard bound head sketch collected editions of earlier books, or this. I mean, pay frank 200 bucks a sketch, sell the book $799 you could move 100 units and im sure they would sell.

 

Guess Frank just isnt into sketching for pay.

 

Except for very early in his career, it doesn't appear that Frank has ever been into sketching. After 1982 or so, it's rare to see any sketches from Frank.

 

In your scenario, he'd draw 100 sketches and end up with $20K. I just don't think that's enough to motivate him these days.

[Nexus]

DK III has passed the point of no return for variants and won't have any one memorable cover, except MAYBE the regular, IMO.

 

+1

 

Not that it was a great series, but even the DK2 covers (which didn't have a gazillion variants) aren't that memorable. I don't think anybody's going to be looking back at all these DK III variant covers with some huge sense of nostalgia like we did with the four iconic DKR covers.

 

IMO, these DK III OA covers are all priced for perfection and should only be bought if you truly love the art. Let's face it - at best DK III is going to be the (decent) "Skyfall" to DKR's (great) "Casino Royale" and DK2's (terrible) "Quantum of Solace". Fast forward a few years from now when the series is done and the hype has died down and most of these covers won't be worth what people paid for them at the peak of the pre-release anticipation/hype. Trying to justify the prices is a waste of time - it's all about timing.

 

No matter how good DK3 ends up being, I can't imagine it will ever hit the high notes of the original. And that's the best case scenario.

 

The drive for these covers by collectors is because they're all DKR art. They'll be published by DC, so they're officially related to DKR, however tangentially. That's the attraction. With Miller DKR art priced out of most budgets, these are a relatively more affordable option. How worthy of an option is up to each collector.

 

OTOH...you could get an all-Miller DK2 page for what most of these covers are going for. As much as I was let down by DK2, and wouldn't want an example otherwise, if I had to choose between a Miller DK2 page and one of these DK3 covers, I'll go for the Miller.

[*paull*]

I think that fans are over-estimating how much Miller did on this series. I'm betting not much more than putting his name on the front cover.

[Thawk]

I think that fans are over-estimating how much Miller did on this series. I'm betting not much more than putting his name on the front cover.

 

At NYCC they talked about how Azzarello flew out monthly for the two of them to work on story together. That said, Frank made several comments indicating this is Brian's story and he's been a "consultant" on it - he said at one point he's "excited to read it," which doesn't sound like the comment of an author.

 

I think you might be right - DC has really wanted it clear this is his project about which they've talked on and off for several years - his world, the third chapter of his story. His personal comments about it didn't seem to fit with that kind of ownership unless he's being incredibly humble and wanting to shine light on his partners.

[*paull*]

I think that fans are over-estimating how much Miller did on this series. I'm betting not much more than putting his name on the front cover.

 

At NYCC they talked about how Azzarello flew out monthly for the two of them to work on story together. That said, Frank made several comments indicating this is Brian's story and he's been a "consultant" on it - he said at one point he's "excited to read it," which doesn't sound like the comment of an author.

 

I think you might be right - DC has really wanted it clear this is his project about which they've talked on and off for several years - his world, the third chapter of his story. His personal comments about it didn't seem to fit with that kind of ownership unless he's being incredibly humble and wanting to shine light on his partners.

 

The recent Didio/Lee Youtube video didn't make it sound like Miller did a whole lot on it, but the NYCC talk solidifies my thinking that Miller did close to nothing on the book besides some attaboys.

[Captain Canuck]

Don't worry, there will be a Miller signed and numbered edition at some point. DC will wait to see what the fan reaction to the series is first.

 

I already have Millers limited 10th anniversary DKR HC signed by him.

[Captain Canuck]

I think that fans are over-estimating how much Miller did on this series. I'm betting not much more than putting his name on the front cover.

 

At NYCC they talked about how Azzarello flew out monthly for the two of them to work on story together. That said, Frank made several comments indicating this is Brian's story and he's been a "consultant" on it - he said at one point he's "excited to read it," which doesn't sound like the comment of an author.

 

I think you might be right - DC has really wanted it clear this is his project about which they've talked on and off for several years - his world, the third chapter of his story. His personal comments about it didn't seem to fit with that kind of ownership unless he's being incredibly humble and wanting to shine light on his partners.

 

Scott Snyder was asked to be a part of this, but backed out because he couldn't make the commitment to meet at Millers Studio every week to discuss the story.

[Nexus]

I think that fans are over-estimating how much Miller did on this series. I'm betting not much more than putting his name on the front cover.

 

At NYCC they talked about how Azzarello flew out monthly for the two of them to work on story together. That said, Frank made several comments indicating this is Brian's story and he's been a "consultant" on it - he said at one point he's "excited to read it," which doesn't sound like the comment of an author.

 

I think you might be right - DC has really wanted it clear this is his project about which they've talked on and off for several years - his world, the third chapter of his story. His personal comments about it didn't seem to fit with that kind of ownership unless he's being incredibly humble and wanting to shine light on his partners.

 

The recent Didio/Lee Youtube video didn't make it sound like Miller did a whole lot on it, but the NYCC talk solidifies my thinking that Miller did close to nothing on the book besides some attaboys.

 

I think most fans are smart enough to see this project for what it is, and not many expected Miller to be a strong creative voice. Like I said to other friends, this is basically another BEFORE WATCHMEN, only this time Moore took the payoff.

[delekkerste]

OTOH...you could get an all-Miller DK2 page for what most of these covers are going for. As much as I was let down by DK2, and wouldn't want an example otherwise, if I had to choose between a Miller DK2 page and one of these DK3 covers, I'll go for the Miller.

 

+1

 

Not that some of these DKIII covers aren't nice® to look at, but, if I had to choose, I'd want to own something actually drawn by Miller and not just a piece inspired by him.