Amazing Spider-Man 361 Print Run

[MrGreen]

I know the print run must have been quite large.

 

Anyone know the exact number?

 

 

[divad]

361,361,361

[MrGreen]

[lmehaffey-migration]

I don't know, but I have 22 of them in my collection ....... how that happened, I don't know! (Or don't remember .... )

[the blob]

Half as big as 363, of which a billion might have been printed.

[Peter G]

I once owned 50 copies of that book

 

It was printed and collected from coast to coast when it came out

[the blob]

in 1995 mike carbonaro threw 10 copies at me as an extra on a deal after i had already paid him. he said "here, have these too..." i traded 5 of them for wizard 1 - 10 which i promptly sold for way too little on ebay.

[RockMyAmadeus]

The print run wasn't that large, comparatively.

 

Numbers for Cap City:

 

#359 - 60,600

#360 - 57,300

#361 - 68,700

#362 - 76,800

#363 - 102,600

#364 - 72,000

#365 - 221,700

 

The statement of ownership for the year lists an avg. print run of 660,958 copies printed, with a sell-through of 554,900....keeping in mind that that average includes the monster run of #365, probably the only issue of Amazing Spiderman to ever have a print run of 1,000,000 copies (with the possible exception of #375.)

 

The rule of thumb is always this: if the publisher goes to an immediate reprinting of the book, it means that it sold out at at least the distribution level. That was true not only of #361, but #362 as well. Books that go into immediate reprintings didn't have enough copies printed in the first place to satisfy demand.

 

This book was an instant sellout across the country. The numbers were up over #359 and #360, but only because they printed that cover in the back of #359. If they hadn't done that, that might have had a good 10-15% fewer orders.

 

Look at me, bringing zero value again.

[MrGreen]

Thanks RockMyAmadeus! Can you post the site for this?

[RockMyAmadeus]

Thanks RockMyAmadeus! Can you post the site for this?

 

No. This information comes from the Krause Standard Catalog of Comic Books.

 

Do you not believe me...?

[B-Smooth]

The print run wasn't that large, comparatively.

 

Numbers for Cap City:

 

#359 - 60,600

#360 - 57,300

#361 - 68,700

#362 - 76,800

#363 - 102,600

#364 - 72,000

#365 - 221,700

 

The statement of ownership for the year lists an avg. print run of 660,958 copies printed, with a sell-through of 554,900....keeping in mind that that average includes the monster run of #365, probably the only issue of Amazing Spiderman to ever have a print run of 1,000,000 copies (with the possible exception of #375.)

 

The rule of thumb is always this: if the publisher goes to an immediate reprinting of the book, it means that it sold out at at least the distribution level. That was true not only of #361, but #362 as well. Books that go into immediate reprintings didn't have enough copies printed in the first place to satisfy demand.

 

This book was an instant sellout across the country. The numbers were up over #359 and #360, but only because they printed that cover in the back of #359. If they hadn't done that, that might have had a good 10-15% fewer orders.

 

Look at me, bringing zero value again.

I always see relevant information in your production/distribution posts. I was thinking Divad was close with the 361,361,361, though.

[ninanina]

I don't know, but I have 22 of them in my collection ....... how that happened, I don't know! (Or don't remember .... )

 

Must have been quite a night.

[MrGreen]

Thanks RockMyAmadeus! Can you post the site for this?

 

No. This information comes from the Krause Standard Catalog of Comic Books.

 

Do you not believe me...?

 

Wanted to look up other books

[RockMyAmadeus]

Thanks RockMyAmadeus! Can you post the site for this?

 

No. This information comes from the Krause Standard Catalog of Comic Books.

 

Do you not believe me...?

 

Wanted to look up other books

 

I highly recommend getting a copy. I consult mine on a regular basis.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Standard-Catalog-Comic-Books-Miller/dp/087349993X

 

Worth every penny.

[RockMyAmadeus]

And there's always John Jackson Miller's excellent site:

 

http://www.comichron.com/

[kimik]

The print run wasn't that large, comparatively.

 

Numbers for Cap City:

 

#359 - 60,600

#360 - 57,300

#361 - 68,700

#362 - 76,800

#363 - 102,600

#364 - 72,000

#365 - 221,700

 

The statement of ownership for the year lists an avg. print run of 660,958 copies printed, with a sell-through of 554,900....keeping in mind that that average includes the monster run of #365, probably the only issue of Amazing Spiderman to ever have a print run of 1,000,000 copies (with the possible exception of #375.)

 

The rule of thumb is always this: if the publisher goes to an immediate reprinting of the book, it means that it sold out at at least the distribution level. That was true not only of #361, but #362 as well. Books that go into immediate reprintings didn't have enough copies printed in the first place to satisfy demand.

 

This book was an instant sellout across the country. The numbers were up over #359 and #360, but only because they printed that cover in the back of #359. If they hadn't done that, that might have had a good 10-15% fewer orders.

 

Look at me, bringing zero value again.

 

 

And there's always John Jackson Miller's excellent site:

 

http://www.comichron.com/

 

According to his 1992 data from Diamond that is posted on Comichron, only ASM #360 and #370 had a smaller print run than #361. If we take Greg's numbers for HARD Corps #1 as accurate at 300,000 copies and ranking #258 on the 1992 list, the ASM #361 coming in at #207 in 1992 would likely mean a print run in the 500,000 - 600,000 range, which fits with the statement of ownership number you posted.

[Broke as a Joke]

500,000 to 600,000 copies of a book that was hoarded from day one. Congrats to anyone getting $200+ for this extremely common book.

[RockMyAmadeus]

According to his 1992 data from Diamond that is posted on Comichron, only ASM #360 and #370 had a smaller print run than #361. If we take Greg's numbers for HARD Corps #1 as accurate at 300,000 copies and ranking #258 on the 1992 list, the ASM #361 coming in at #207 in 1992 would likely mean a print run in the 500,000 - 600,000 range, which fits with the statement of ownership number you posted.

 

That's too high. Those are only Diamond's numbers, and those are order numbers, which would be a lower percentage of the print run, being unreturnable. A larger percentage of the print run would have been newsstand copies, which aren't reflected in Diamond's numbers. Also...Diamond wasn't the only distributor of Hard Corps #1, so there's too much missing information to come to any decent conclusion based on Diamond's order numbers.

 

For comparison, Cap City's orders for Hard Corps #1 were 67,600, only 1,100 fewer copies than ASM #361. If that "300k" number is accurate, that would put ASM #361 at around 306,000 copies...which is probably much too low.

 

For the averages to work, the numbers for the lower print run books have to be substantially lower than the higher print run books like #363 and #365.

 

What we DO know is that, as you noted, ASM #361 was in the bottom 1/4 of print runs for the year for ASM.

 

[RockMyAmadeus]

And no, this book wasn't hoarded from day one. Books that sell out quickly enough to have a second printing aren't hoarded....they are distributed far and wide.

[BrianR]

I believe it was hoarded to an extent. I bought 8 copies the day it came out as it was touted as the son of venom by the LCS I was going to before the issue came out. I know 8 copies may not seem like a hoard to others, but it was known prior to hitting the stands. I was in Flagstaff at the time.