Pre-Heat Speculation Thread - Get it before it gets HOT 9 9

[Comicsplay]

Hi guys,

I'm new in the "issues" market (I usually buy hardcovers and TPBs), and I've bought quite a lot of its this past days : some are for my own collection (because I love the cover art) and some with the idea to sell its in a few months / days and make some money on it (I know I'm not gonna pay the credit of my studies with it lol). I would love to have your opinions on those issues and if you think that they have a chance to burn or not

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #15 2ND PRINT 

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #18.1 LAND VARIANT

AMAZING SPIDERMAN RENEW YOUR VOWS VOL 2 #1 FRIED PIE VARIANT

ARCHIE # 1 DYNAMIC FORCES JAE LEE EXCLUSIVE

ASTONISHING X-MEN #1 EXCLUSIVE TERRY DODSON VARIANT

ASTONISHING X-MEN #1 Cover A & B J Scott Campbell (signed)

AVENGERS #8 ALLRED MARY JANE VARIANT

BATMAN #41 (N52) JOKER VARIANT

BATMAN #21 LENTICULAR VAR ED (THE BUTTON)

BATMAN #22 LENTICULAR VAR ED (THE BUTTON)

BETTIE PAGE #1 CVR B LINSNER

BETTIE PAGE #1 CVR A DODSON 

BETTY & VERONICA VOL 2 #1 COVER A ADAM HUGHES 1st PRINT

BETTY & VERONICA VOL 2 #1 VARIANT COVER U RYAN SOOK

BETTY & VERONICA #1 BLANK VARIANT

BETTY & VERONICA VOL 2 #2 COVER A ADAM HUGHES 1st PRINT

BLACK CANARY #5 MONSTERS VAR ED

Champions #1 J Scott Campbell MIDTOWN exclusive variant

CHRONONAUTS #1 2ND PTG 




CINDERELLA SERIAL KILLER PRINCESS #3 CVR C KEITH GARVEY VARIANT

DANGER DOLL SQUAD #0 COMICXPOSURE ELIAS CHATZOUDIS RISQUE VARIANT 

DEADPOOL VOL 5 #11 1st PRINT COVER

DEADPOOL KILLS MARVEL UNIVERSE AGAIN #1 WALSH VARIANT

DIVIDED STATES OF HYSTERIA #1

FLASH #21 LENTICULAR VAR ED (THE BUTTON)

FLASH #22 LENTICULAR VAR ED (THE BUTTON)

GAMORA #2 1st PRINT

GREEN LANTERN #31 BATMAN '66 ALLRED VARIANT

Grimm Fairy Tales #101 Cover E

GFT GRIMM FAIRY TALES #125 COVER F CHATZOUDIS VARIANT

GFT DAY OF THE DEAD #2 (OF 6) CVR C ELIAS CHATZOUDIS VARIANT

GRIMM TALES OF TERROR 2017 APRIL FOOLS ED CVR A RIVEIRO

HARLEY QUINN #15 – 16 CHO VARIANT

INVINCIBLE #133 CVR B IMAGE TRIBUTE VAR

JESSICA JONES #1 COMIC MINT SIYA OUM COLOR VARIANT

RED SONJA VOL 7 #1 - 3 COVER B J SCOTT CAMPBELL VARIANT

SEVEN TO ETERNITY #1 3RD PTG

SHEENA #0 J Scott Campbell Cover

Spider-gwen #1 (2015) J. Scott Campbell MIDTOWN EXCL Ink Variant

SPIDER-ISLAND #3 (OF 5) MURATA MANGA VARIANT

SPIDER-MAN #1 YOUNG VAR

SUPERMAN VOL 5 #10 COVER A 1ST PRINT

SUPER SONS #1 VARIANT

ULTIMATES #1 YOUNG VAR

VENOM #150 COMICXPOSURE MIKE PERKINS VARIANT CVR B

WONDER WOMAN VOL 5 #3 COVER B MIKE CHO VARIANT

X-MEN Blue #1 Cover A & B J Scott Campbell

 

Edited July 17, 2017 by Comicsplay

[Hey Kids, Comics!]

3 hours ago, fastballspecial said:

I invested heavily in X-Men 65/66 just because I got them for $1 or less each. I figure I cant do wrong. 

Tec 608 I also picked up while back when it was under $1.

I cant find a Submariner 50 in decent grade anywhere so I have all but, given up on that book.

 

So you guys are still in on Tec 608? I stopped buying them out of $2 boxes as I just have so many and have only ever sold one (For $6). I still pick up about half I see in $1 boxes, but they don't excite me when I find them.

[fastballspecial]

If its a $1 and its NM I buy it.

That kinda my motto for books like this. Above $1 nope.

 

[Aweandlorder]

1 hour ago, fastballspecial said:

If its a $1 and its NM I buy it.

That kinda my motto for books like this. Above $1 nope.

 

I said that about UF4 three years ago..

Actually, I didnt

[GLCBrad]

23 hours ago, Comicsplay said:

Hi guys,

I'm new in the "issues" market (I usually buy hardcovers and TPBs), and I've bought quite a lot of its this past days : some are for my own collection (because I love the cover art) and some with the idea to sell its in a few months / days and make some money on it (I know I'm not gonna pay the credit of my studies with it lol). I would love to have your opinions on those issues and if you think that they have a chance to burn or not

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #15 2ND PRINT 

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #18.1 LAND VARIANT

AMAZING SPIDERMAN RENEW YOUR VOWS VOL 2 #1 FRIED PIE VARIANT

ARCHIE # 1 DYNAMIC FORCES JAE LEE EXCLUSIVE

ASTONISHING X-MEN #1 EXCLUSIVE TERRY DODSON VARIANT

ASTONISHING X-MEN #1 Cover A & B J Scott Campbell (signed)

AVENGERS #8 ALLRED MARY JANE VARIANT

BATMAN #41 (N52) JOKER VARIANT

BATMAN #21 LENTICULAR VAR ED (THE BUTTON)

BATMAN #22 LENTICULAR VAR ED (THE BUTTON)

BETTIE PAGE #1 CVR B LINSNER

BETTIE PAGE #1 CVR A DODSON 

BETTY & VERONICA VOL 2 #1 COVER A ADAM HUGHES 1st PRINT

BETTY & VERONICA VOL 2 #1 VARIANT COVER U RYAN SOOK

BETTY & VERONICA #1 BLANK VARIANT

BETTY & VERONICA VOL 2 #2 COVER A ADAM HUGHES 1st PRINT

BLACK CANARY #5 MONSTERS VAR ED

Champions #1 J Scott Campbell MIDTOWN exclusive variant

CHRONONAUTS #1 2ND PTG 




CINDERELLA SERIAL KILLER PRINCESS #3 CVR C KEITH GARVEY VARIANT

DANGER DOLL SQUAD #0 COMICXPOSURE ELIAS CHATZOUDIS RISQUE VARIANT 

DEADPOOL VOL 5 #11 1st PRINT COVER

DEADPOOL KILLS MARVEL UNIVERSE AGAIN #1 WALSH VARIANT

DIVIDED STATES OF HYSTERIA #1

FLASH #21 LENTICULAR VAR ED (THE BUTTON)

FLASH #22 LENTICULAR VAR ED (THE BUTTON)

GAMORA #2 1st PRINT

GREEN LANTERN #31 BATMAN '66 ALLRED VARIANT

Grimm Fairy Tales #101 Cover E

GFT GRIMM FAIRY TALES #125 COVER F CHATZOUDIS VARIANT

GFT DAY OF THE DEAD #2 (OF 6) CVR C ELIAS CHATZOUDIS VARIANT

GRIMM TALES OF TERROR 2017 APRIL FOOLS ED CVR A RIVEIRO

HARLEY QUINN #15 – 16 CHO VARIANT

INVINCIBLE #133 CVR B IMAGE TRIBUTE VAR

JESSICA JONES #1 COMIC MINT SIYA OUM COLOR VARIANT

RED SONJA VOL 7 #1 - 3 COVER B J SCOTT CAMPBELL VARIANT

SEVEN TO ETERNITY #1 3RD PTG

SHEENA #0 J Scott Campbell Cover

Spider-gwen #1 (2015) J. Scott Campbell MIDTOWN EXCL Ink Variant

SPIDER-ISLAND #3 (OF 5) MURATA MANGA VARIANT

SPIDER-MAN #1 YOUNG VAR

SUPERMAN VOL 5 #10 COVER A 1ST PRINT

SUPER SONS #1 VARIANT

ULTIMATES #1 YOUNG VAR

VENOM #150 COMICXPOSURE MIKE PERKINS VARIANT CVR B

WONDER WOMAN VOL 5 #3 COVER B MIKE CHO VARIANT

X-MEN Blue #1 Cover A & B J Scott Campbell

 

This font choice does not help defend your decision-making prowess

[GeeksAreMyPeeps]

1 hour ago, GLCBrad said:

This font choice does not help defend your decision-making prowess

Agreed. Especially as it appeared in some -script font when I was viewing on my iPad and was very difficult to read, so I just skipped over the post.

[Comicsplay]

Sorry guys, I'll write another list (it's weird because first I've written it on Word so it should be read by anyone).

[ygogolak]

[the authority]

On 7/17/2017 at 0:22 PM, Comicsplay said:

Hi guys,

I'm new in the "issues" market (I usually buy hardcovers and TPBs), and I've bought quite a lot of its this past days : some are for my own collection (because I love the cover art) and some with the idea to sell its in a few months / days and make some money on it (I know I'm not gonna pay the credit of my studies with it lol). I would love to have your opinions on those issues and if you think that they have a chance to burn or not

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #15 2ND PRINT 

AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #18.1 LAND VARIANT

AMAZING SPIDERMAN RENEW YOUR VOWS VOL 2 #1 FRIED PIE VARIANT

ARCHIE # 1 DYNAMIC FORCES JAE LEE EXCLUSIVE

ASTONISHING X-MEN #1 EXCLUSIVE TERRY DODSON VARIANT

ASTONISHING X-MEN #1 Cover A & B J Scott Campbell (signed)

AVENGERS #8 ALLRED MARY JANE VARIANT

BATMAN #41 (N52) JOKER VARIANT

BATMAN #21 LENTICULAR VAR ED (THE BUTTON)

BATMAN #22 LENTICULAR VAR ED (THE BUTTON)

BETTIE PAGE #1 CVR B LINSNER

BETTIE PAGE #1 CVR A DODSON 

BETTY & VERONICA VOL 2 #1 COVER A ADAM HUGHES 1st PRINT

BETTY & VERONICA VOL 2 #1 VARIANT COVER U RYAN SOOK

BETTY & VERONICA #1 BLANK VARIANT

BETTY & VERONICA VOL 2 #2 COVER A ADAM HUGHES 1st PRINT

BLACK CANARY #5 MONSTERS VAR ED

Champions #1 J Scott Campbell MIDTOWN exclusive variant

CHRONONAUTS #1 2ND PTG 




CINDERELLA SERIAL KILLER PRINCESS #3 CVR C KEITH GARVEY VARIANT

DANGER DOLL SQUAD #0 COMICXPOSURE ELIAS CHATZOUDIS RISQUE VARIANT 

DEADPOOL VOL 5 #11 1st PRINT COVER

DEADPOOL KILLS MARVEL UNIVERSE AGAIN #1 WALSH VARIANT

DIVIDED STATES OF HYSTERIA #1

FLASH #21 LENTICULAR VAR ED (THE BUTTON)

FLASH #22 LENTICULAR VAR ED (THE BUTTON)

GAMORA #2 1st PRINT

GREEN LANTERN #31 BATMAN '66 ALLRED VARIANT

Grimm Fairy Tales #101 Cover E

GFT GRIMM FAIRY TALES #125 COVER F CHATZOUDIS VARIANT

GFT DAY OF THE DEAD #2 (OF 6) CVR C ELIAS CHATZOUDIS VARIANT

GRIMM TALES OF TERROR 2017 APRIL FOOLS ED CVR A RIVEIRO

HARLEY QUINN #15 – 16 CHO VARIANT

INVINCIBLE #133 CVR B IMAGE TRIBUTE VAR

JESSICA JONES #1 COMIC MINT SIYA OUM COLOR VARIANT

RED SONJA VOL 7 #1 - 3 COVER B J SCOTT CAMPBELL VARIANT

SEVEN TO ETERNITY #1 3RD PTG

SHEENA #0 J Scott Campbell Cover

Spider-gwen #1 (2015) J. Scott Campbell MIDTOWN EXCL Ink Variant

SPIDER-ISLAND #3 (OF 5) MURATA MANGA VARIANT

SPIDER-MAN #1 YOUNG VAR

SUPERMAN VOL 5 #10 COVER A 1ST PRINT

SUPER SONS #1 VARIANT

ULTIMATES #1 YOUNG VAR

VENOM #150 COMICXPOSURE MIKE PERKINS VARIANT CVR B

WONDER WOMAN VOL 5 #3 COVER B MIKE CHO VARIANT

X-MEN Blue #1 Cover A & B J Scott Campbell

 

WTTB !

On your list, all things Jae Lee and Frank Cho are worth buying imo. The Harley Quinn Cho variants may be a big deal someday. DC has a subtle hit with their same priced variants featuring Cho, Frison, Sienkewicz, and others.

Terry and Rachel Dodson art is always on my buy list too. 

Its hard to imagine the that the Siya Oum books won't be well sought after books in the future.

Super Sons #10 is a nice book too. 

[Mapleleafvann]

Good advice---I agree with the Authority...some of those DC cover price variants are simply outstanding!  

[darkstar]

On 6/30/2016 at 7:54 PM, LarrysComics said:

 

I "only" care what the CGC label says....

THAT'S endgame.

 

Argue all you want.

 

Not saying it's true...

IF it is...

 

#9 wins.

 

Bet me.

Anything.....

Put your $ where your anonymous internet moniker mouf is....

Over 1 year later and Invincible Iron Man #9 is pretty much a cover price book.

['Nuff Said!]

On 7/16/2017 at 8:04 PM, cbaileypacker said:

I went through my speculation box's this weekend , and below is a list of  sleeper 1st appearances I have collected over time.    

OPINION?

Future Potential, pure garbage, or never heard of them?

Cheers!

Amazing Fantasy vol2 # 10 1st Nina Price - Vampire by night

Aquaman # 7 1st The Others

Infinity # 4 1st full Thane

Infinity #6 variant 1st Thane Cover

New Avengers # 4 1st Maria Hill

Mighty Avengers # 4 1st Quickfire

Ultron Forever #1 1st Danielle Cage

FCBD Civil War II / Avengers #9 1st Nadia Pym New Wasp

New Avengers #9 1st American Kaiju

Avengers Academy # 21 1st White Tiger Ava Ayala

Batman #1 (rebirth) 1st Gotham Girl

Batman # 21 Duke Thomas

Detective #647 1st Stephanie Brown

Detective # 608 1st Anarky

Infinite Crisis # 5 1st Jamie Reyes Blue Beetle

52 week 11 - 1st Kane Batwoman

Battle Scars #1 1st Nick Fury Jr

Captain America 208/209 1st Armin Zola

Captain America 3 1st new Falcon Joaquin Torres  

Drax #1 (2005) 1st Modern Drax

Dragons claw # 5 1st deaths head (non-uk mag)

FF Annual # 6 1st Franklin Richards 1st Annihilus (still way cheap IMO , have a small stack o copies stashed away )

Green Lantern # 201 1st Kilowog

Green Lantern # 0 1st Simon Baz

Justice League # 31 1st full Jessica cruz

Totally Awesome Hulk #1 1st Cho as Hulk

Totally Awesome Hulk # 3 1st Kid Kaiju

all new Invaders # 6 1st Radiance

Harbinger # 10 1st HARD Corps

Iron Man # 7 1st RiRi Williams

Inhuman # 4 1st Reader and Iso

Inhuman # 7 1st NUR and Auran

All-new Inhumans #1 1st Captain Swain

Marvel Point One # 1 1st Sam Alexander Nova

Marvel Tails # 1 1st Peter Porker Spider-ham

Next wave Agents of hate #1 1st Modern (red hair) Elsa Bloodstone

New Warriors # 4 (2005)  1st Debrii

Secret Warriors # 7 1st Manifold

Sentry # 1 

Shadowland Power Man #1 1st Victor Alvarez Powerman

Shadowman # 13 1st Punk Mambo

Silver Surfer # 73 1st Modern Nebula

Stormwatch #37 1st jenny sparks, Hawksmoor, etc

Supreme Power # 4 1st Modern Nighthawk

Sub Mariner # 50 1st Namorita

Amazing Spider-man # 565 1st Anna Kravinoff

FCBD 2007 spider-man 1st Mr Negative

Spider-man Re-new your vows #1 1st Annie May Parker

Spider-man Deadpool # 8/9 1st Itsy Bitsy

Lois Clark 1 /8 1st full Jonathan Kent

Teen Titans # 26 1st Terra 

Teen titans (2003)# 8/9/10 1st Rose Wilson as Ravager  

Venom 38/39/40 1st Mania

Valiant War Mother #1 1st War Mother

Wildcats # 21 1st Ladytron

Uncanny x-men 317 / generation x # 40 1st "M" Monet St Croix

x-men 65/66 1st Cecilia Reyes

New X-men # 134 1st Quentin Quire

 

Cheers!

Is your thinking on Venom 38, 39, and 40. Cameo, first full appearance, and first cover.

1st Simon Baz FCBD 2012?

How about Infinity FCBD 2013 1st Corvus Glaive

Edited July 20, 2017 by 'Nuff Said!

[JTLarsen]

I'm amazed how little talk there's been of Jenny Frison's Wonder Woman covers. Yes, #25 got a lot of hooplah, but her whole run is full of future classics. Iconic covers but with a recognizable, distinct style. Great stuff and I'm guessing will always be in demand. (Yes, I picked some up for myself, just like I did with the Hughes run before it took off!)

[Mapleleafvann]

29 minutes ago, JTLarsen said:

I'm amazed how little talk there's been of Jenny Frison's Wonder Woman covers. Yes, #25 got a lot of hooplah, but her whole run is full of future classics. Iconic covers but with a recognizable, distinct style. Great stuff and I'm guessing will always be in demand. (Yes, I picked some up for myself, just like I did with the Hughes run before it took off!)

Couldn't agree more....they flew under the radar for me for a little while.  I do think more people are catching on though....

[JTLarsen]

4 hours ago, Mapleleafvann said:

Couldn't agree more....they flew under the radar for me for a little while.  I do think more people are catching on though....

I agree...just so little chatter about them...some of them are real keepers!

[followtheleader]

I picked up most of Frisson's stuff too. 

She will eventually blow up, but she needs to string a bit more together. 

Patrick

[Brock]

19 minutes ago, followtheleader said:

I picked up most of Frisson's stuff too. 

She will eventually blow up, but she needs to string a bit more together. 

Patrick

There needs to be more consistency... right now, for every WW25 there's a WW27. For my money , Joshua Middleton is putting out more consistently strong work, and will likely break out first.

[Mapleleafvann]

21 minutes ago, Brock said:

There needs to be more consistency... right now, for every WW25 there's a WW27. For my money , Joshua Middleton is putting out more consistently strong work, and will likely break out first.

Hard to argue with this point and it is one of the reasons why I was so late to the Frison camp.  I was intrigued with #20, very interested with #23 and amazed with #25.  A lot of the other covers don't hold the same interest for me.  I have found however, that the more I look at certain books, the more they grow on me.  Books such as #7 and even #15 continue to grow on me....I wonder if other covers will also convert over into this category for me. 

[Jonesin4Comics]

On 7/16/2017 at 5:04 PM, cbaileypacker said:

I went through my speculation box's this weekend , and below is a list of  sleeper 1st appearances I have collected over time.    

OPINION?

Future Potential, pure garbage, or never heard of them?

Cheers!

Amazing Fantasy vol2 # 10 1st Nina Price - Vampire by night

Aquaman # 7 1st The Others

Infinity # 4 1st full Thane

Infinity #6 variant 1st Thane Cover

New Avengers # 4 1st Maria Hill

Mighty Avengers # 4 1st Quickfire

Ultron Forever #1 1st Danielle Cage

FCBD Civil War II / Avengers #9 1st Nadia Pym New Wasp

New Avengers #9 1st American Kaiju

Avengers Academy # 21 1st White Tiger Ava Ayala

Batman #1 (rebirth) 1st Gotham Girl

Batman # 21 Duke Thomas

Detective #647 1st Stephanie Brown

Detective # 608 1st Anarky

Infinite Crisis # 5 1st Jamie Reyes Blue Beetle

52 week 11 - 1st Kane Batwoman

Battle Scars #1 1st Nick Fury Jr

Captain America 208/209 1st Armin Zola

Captain America 3 1st new Falcon Joaquin Torres  

Drax #1 (2005) 1st Modern Drax

Dragons claw # 5 1st deaths head (non-uk mag)

FF Annual # 6 1st Franklin Richards 1st Annihilus (still way cheap IMO , have a small stack o copies stashed away )

Green Lantern # 201 1st Kilowog

Green Lantern # 0 1st Simon Baz

Justice League # 31 1st full Jessica cruz

Totally Awesome Hulk #1 1st Cho as Hulk

Totally Awesome Hulk # 3 1st Kid Kaiju

all new Invaders # 6 1st Radiance

Harbinger # 10 1st HARD Corps

Iron Man # 7 1st RiRi Williams

Inhuman # 4 1st Reader and Iso

Inhuman # 7 1st NUR and Auran

All-new Inhumans #1 1st Captain Swain

Marvel Point One # 1 1st Sam Alexander Nova

Marvel Tails # 1 1st Peter Porker Spider-ham

Next wave Agents of hate #1 1st Modern (red hair) Elsa Bloodstone

New Warriors # 4 (2005)  1st Debrii

Secret Warriors # 7 1st Manifold

Sentry # 1 

Shadowland Power Man #1 1st Victor Alvarez Powerman

Shadowman # 13 1st Punk Mambo

Silver Surfer # 73 1st Modern Nebula

Stormwatch #37 1st jenny sparks, Hawksmoor, etc

Supreme Power # 4 1st Modern Nighthawk

Sub Mariner # 50 1st Namorita

Amazing Spider-man # 565 1st Anna Kravinoff

FCBD 2007 spider-man 1st Mr Negative

Spider-man Re-new your vows #1 1st Annie May Parker

Spider-man Deadpool # 8/9 1st Itsy Bitsy

Lois Clark 1 /8 1st full Jonathan Kent

Teen Titans # 26 1st Terra 

Teen titans (2003)# 8/9/10 1st Rose Wilson as Ravager  

Venom 38/39/40 1st Mania

Valiant War Mother #1 1st War Mother

Wildcats # 21 1st Ladytron

Uncanny x-men 317 / generation x # 40 1st "M" Monet St Croix

x-men 65/66 1st Cecilia Reyes

New X-men # 134 1st Quentin Quire

 

Cheers!

This is a great list! I was happy to find "Detective #647 1st Stephanie Brown" in my collection the other day as I didn't realize I had it. Now I'm going to search for any others you listed I never thought about 

Edited July 31, 2017 by Jonesin4Comics

[JTLarsen]

6 hours ago, Brock said:

There needs to be more consistency... right now, for every WW25 there's a WW27. For my money , Joshua Middleton is putting out more consistently strong work, and will likely break out first.

I can't really speak to Middleton, but I'm not sure how consistent covers really have to be. Most great cover runs have their clunkers.