jsilverjanet Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Ewoks In Episode IX greggy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 Ewoks In Episode IX If the reddit leak is true then while it may *seem* cool to people who want new Star Wars, it does nothing but elevate the prequels and solidifies (at least in my mind) that this revival is lazy storytelling. "Remember when they blew up a second death star and the ewoks helped? Maybe in Episode 9, the First Order is building a bigger Starkiller weapon except it is near the moon that Maz Kannata came from and we see her and her people take out the shield bunker that keeps the near completed starkiller weapon protected." I can see it now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisco37 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 TFA was great. Infinitely better than any of the 3 garbage prequels. My daughter loved it and is a SW fan because of TFA. Yep, it was very much an update of ANH, but it brought a whole new generation of fans into the fold. If they follow ESB for the next one, so be it. I'll be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Hollywood should just make every Stephen King novel and just get it over with. Then pick another writer, do all their books and so on. Original ideas are a thing of the past. Nobody has them anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valiantman Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 In a moment of pure pottery... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjrjr Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 TFA was great. Infinitely better than any of the 3 garbage prequels. My daughter loved it and is a SW fan because of TFA. Yep, it was very much an update of ANH, but it brought a whole new generation of fans into the fold. If they follow ESB for the next one, so be it. I'll be there. The Prequels also brought in a new generation of fans. Why bash the movies they like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share Posted July 12, 2016 TFA was great. Infinitely better than any of the 3 garbage prequels. My daughter loved it and is a SW fan because of TFA. Yep, it was very much an update of ANH, but it brought a whole new generation of fans into the fold. If they follow ESB for the next one, so be it. I'll be there. The Prequels also brought in a new generation of fans. Why bash the movies they like? Upon watching it the second time, The Force Awakens made me appreciate the prequels. And dare I say... Episode III, outside of NOOOOOOOO!!!!, was pretty well done. I only wish they had included the filmed but deleted Yoda end scene... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Pretty cool, haven't see that before. Lucas makes sense though, we all know what happens, it really wasn't needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revat Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Pretty cool, haven't see that before. Lucas makes sense though, we all know what happens, it really wasn't needed. like we needed greedo to shoot first? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Dunno about that one either. Or rather, don't care The most I remember of the 90's remakes was that a group of around 15 of us bought tickets, then spent 12 hours theater hopping to see all three episodes. That was a blast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Who is Max Von Sydow's character in 7? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrothecollector Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 you cant be serious that this 2nd one is a rip off the 2nd in the original trilogy this is worse in some ways than the prequels if true, Leak supposedly comes from someone that leaked the Han death thing and other elements that turned out to be true of Episode 7. Again... as of now I consider Star Wars Episodes 1-6. I am hoping that Episode 8 can redeem Episode 7's formulaic and predictable fanboy retelling of Eps 4-6. WARNING - Supposedly... major spoilers. https://m.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLeaks/comments/4egl1i/episode_viii_script_leak_please_debunkconfirm/ Spoilers: Working title is "Echoes of the Dark Side" It's divided into three equally important plot threads that don't converge until the third act: Rey's, Finn's, and Kylo's. There's not nearly as much action as TFA in the first two acts, but the third act goes full-on crazy. The broad structure isn't as similar to ESB as TFA was to ANH, but the parallels are still present. Rey is training in the ways of the Force with an old Jedi master (Luke) on a wild planet while Finn and Poe are in a beautiful city that has a shady, sinister underpinning. Finn and Poe are betrayed and captured by Kylo Ren who uses them as bait to draw Rey out of hiding so Kylo and Rey can have a duel in an industrial portion of the city. The backstory to Luke and his Jedi being wiped out is that Snoke seduced Kylo and a few of the other students to the dark side and tasked them with killing everyone. Luke and a few others survived, including a young Rey who was subsequently dumped on Jakku by Luke. Rey's mom died in the attack. Rey is pissed at Luke because she guesses that he was her father and is angry at him for abandoning her. Luke turns to her and says "No, you are my father". Yes, really. Rey is the reincarnation of Anakin Skywalker. Luke went to the first Jedi temple to better understand how the process works. He learned that the spirit of the chosen one is reincarnated by the Force every time the universe is thrown out of balance, which apparently happens on a semi-regular basis (Anakin was hardly the first time the chosen one reincarnated). This is why she's so crazy powerful with the Force (remember that Anakin blew up the Trade Federation donut ship by himself when he was like 8 years old). Rey was the product of a virgin birth, but midichlorians aren't mentioned (Luke says "you are a child of the Force"). Luke is hesitant to train her because, according to Jedi history, the chosen one always struggles with staying on the light side of the Force because of the chaotic power running through them. He's afraid that she could become Vader 2.0. If he trains her to fight Kylo, and she turns dark, she would do way more damage to the galaxy than Kylo could ever dream of doing. He ultimately trains her anyway and leaves everything up to the Force. He makes this decision in a scene where he confers with the ghosts of Obi-Wan and Yoda (Ewan MacGregor and Frank Oz come back). Rey learns lightsaber skills, Force skills, and has a vision quest thing where she talks with Maz Kanata (unsure if it’s telepathy or just a dream) and Hayden Christenson. The latter tells her that she is him, but different, and there’s a quick scene where we see hundreds of other Force ghosts who are implied to be past chosen ones. Rey feels Finn's distress elsewhere in the galaxy and says she needs to go to him. Luke tells her about the time he felt his friends in distress and Yoda told him to stay and finish his training, and his disobedience led to pain. But then he says he isn't Yoda, and has his own way of doing things, and tags along with her to go help. Finn wakes up on a Resistance cruiser and is told by Poe that they're already en route to the makeshift Republic homeworld in the wake of the capital planet being blown up by Starkiller Base. Leia wants to lobby them to go to war. The Republic is being led by an interim dictator named Lord Vikram (Benicio Del Toro), who was quickly put into power by the few senators still around to maintain order. Starkiller's destruction of the Republic core worlds caused a galactic communications disruption because everything was routed through those worlds, so Vikram is trying to reestablish contact and ensure the Republic doesn't collapse into anarchy. Leia and Vikram butt heads. Vikram agrees that the Republic has to go to war with the First Order, but wants to wait for communications to come back online so they can muster up a sizable force (all they have right now is a single small fleet). Leia disagrees, and wants to take the war to the First Order now while Snoke is still reeling from Starkiller's destruction. She says both sides are in chaos, which makes this an opportune time to strike. Vikram counters by telling her she's letting her personal emotions over Han's death get in the way, and Leia throws it back at him by telling him he was always a little snake of a politician when they would argue back in her senate days, etc, etc, they have old bad blood or whatever. The Republic planet is safe because it's protected by a heavy duty shield that can repel any invasion or bombardment from the First Order. Finn and Poe are tasked by Leia to investigate the city because one of Leia's contacts informed her that the First Order have spies embedded in the Republic. Leia suspects Vikram. Finn quickly becomes enamored by Leia's contact, Chala (Kelly Marie Tran), who tags along with him and Poe through the underbelly of the city to gather information. Finn and Chala have a flirty romance subplot that involves a nighttime adventure through the rustic old city (this is the second entry in the trilogy after all, and poetry demands it). Finn, Poe and Chala all corner the culprit: Vikram's aide, who has evidence of contact between Vikram and the First Order. Leia and some Resistance fighters confront Vikram and throw him in jail for treason. He denies everything, and the rest of the Republic officials are horrified because Leia basically just coup-de-etat'd the **** out of their leadership. Leia assumes control of the planet's defenses and absentmindedly puts Finn in charge of the shield codes. Finn and Chala have a moment and Finn mentions his confusion about why Vikram didn't just lower the shields for the First Order. They walk into a room and Phasma is standing there and Chala draws a gun on Finn and forcibly takes the codes for disarming the shield from him. She says she planted the evidence, used Finn to get the codes, and basically that she thinks he's a dirty traitor to the First Order. In a moment of pure pottery, Phasma makes Finn lower the shields. The First Order fleet jumps out of hyperspace and invades the planet, quickly capturing Finn, Poe and Leia. Kylo starts to torture Finn using the Force, knowing that it will draw Rey out of hiding and into his trap. I don't know how to feel about this, if it's true. It's kinda cool and lame at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catwomancomics Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 (edited) It's kinda cool and lame at the same time. I'm not sure how I feel about the whole chosen one rebirth thing. I get that it paves a way to bring Anakin/Christensen back into the movie but Using Finn and Poe for a trap If this is all true, I will be more disappointed in Disney than the Force Awakens film. Yes the FA had a ton of similarities and it felt like Star Wars. I enjoyed watching it. If Ep 8 turns out to be similar to ESB, it would be a shame and a disservice to the fans. Please, come up with something totally new that hasn't been done before. Edit: Then again, The Jedi order had to rescue Padme, Anakin, and Obi Wan at the end of Ep 2. So, maybe this is the cookie cutter plan. Edited July 13, 2016 by Catwomancomics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 I seriously doubt the rebirth thing. How is Kylo communicating with Anikin if Rey is supposedly his reincarnation? I can believe he is learning to communicate like Luke did at the end of Jedi. And Obi Wan at the end of RoS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valiantman Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 I seriously doubt the rebirth thing. How is Kylo communicating with Anikin if Rey is supposedly his reincarnation? I can believe he is learning to communicate like Luke did at the end of Jedi. And Obi Wan at the end of RoS. Kylo is just talking to the helmet. There's no one responding. If Anakin was responding to Kylo, he'd be telling him to quit being evil/empire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 I seriously doubt the rebirth thing. How is Kylo communicating with Anikin if Rey is supposedly his reincarnation? I can believe he is learning to communicate like Luke did at the end of Jedi. And Obi Wan at the end of RoS. Kylo is just talking to the helmet. There's no one responding. If Anakin was responding to Kylo, he'd be telling him to quit being evil/empire. You think so? I'm not so sure. I think there are echoes that he is listening to. But perhaps you're right, it's just a fantasy he is playing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techtre2003 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Lor San Tekka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalPSI Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Lor San Tekka Excellent thanks. That explains a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzetta Posted July 13, 2016 Author Share Posted July 13, 2016 I seriously doubt the rebirth thing. How is Kylo communicating with Anikin if Rey is supposedly his reincarnation? I can believe he is learning to communicate like Luke did at the end of Jedi. And Obi Wan at the end of RoS. Kylo is just talking to the helmet. There's no one responding. If Anakin was responding to Kylo, he'd be telling him to quit being evil/empire. You think so? I'm not so sure. I think there are echoes that he is listening to. But perhaps you're right, it's just a fantasy he is playing out. In Episode VII's preproduction there was talk of Anakin having a split personality with his good half directing Rey while his evil half directed Kylo Ren. The Art of Star Wars - The Force Awakens: ...but apparently there was an early plan to feature Hayden Christiensen’s Anakin in The Force Awakens ( as a creepy Force ghost, perpetually torn between light and darkness) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkman Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 TFA was great. Infinitely better than any of the 3 garbage prequels. My daughter loved it and is a SW fan because of TFA. Yep, it was very much an update of ANH, but it brought a whole new generation of fans into the fold. If they follow ESB for the next one, so be it. I'll be there. The Prequels also brought in a new generation of fans. Why bash the movies they like? Upon watching it the second time, The Force Awakens made me appreciate the prequels. And dare I say... Episode III, outside of NOOOOOOOO!!!!, was pretty well done. I only wish they had included the filmed but deleted Yoda end scene... OMG. They used The Roots' "Don't Say nothin'" That is so dope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
