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[Subby1938]

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[Jaydogrules]

18 hours ago, SpeedforceKJ said:

id love to get my hands on a black spidey print. great stuff man

There was an OA black suit Spidey for sale for 7000 euro, which I thought was expensive.   Now I rather regret not just getting it.  

-J.

[Subby1938]

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[Cooley88]

On 2/25/2016 at 3:15 PM, Jaydogrules said:

It's high time this cover artist have his own Appreciation Thread!

 

I have been a big fan of Gabrielle Dell'Otto's work since he began working on ASM a few years back. He is quite simply an extremely gifted cover artist, and appears to work mostly in paint on canvas and/or chalk. His attention to detail in these mediums is unparalleled with much of his work being near museum quality. As fans, we are very fortunate to have an artist who so capably renders some of our favourite heroes and villains in the style of a true Renaissance master. Undoubtedly due to the time, detail and care Dell'otto devotes to his pieces, he is not prolific. As such most of his covers that have been used by both Marvel and DC (but mostly Marvel) look to be the more exclusive ones. Some of the rarest (and best) variants out there are Dell'otto covers, and many of them are very difficult to find on a day to day basis.

 

So let's see your favourite Dell'otto covers guys! I'll start it off with a few of mine before they're sent off to catch some Florida sun.

 

 

From left to right, ASM 682 (Part 1 Ends of the Earth) 1:15, ASM 667 (Part 1 Spider Island) 1:100, and ASM 3 1:25

 

 

From left to right, Uncanny X Men 1 1:50, X-23 1 1:50, and Cable and X Force 3 1:50

 

 

From left to right, Winter Soldier 1 (first in solo, ongoing title- good luck finding one of these! almost as hard to find as the ASM 667) 1:50 and Avengers Assemble 10 1:50

 

Obviously the ASM 667 is his best known and hardest to find piece. I've always liked its moody intensity, its simple yet striking layout, and of course Spidey in a classic pose. As an interesting side note, it was also just Dell'otto's second ASM cover and is one of only 3, 1:100's that he has done.

 

Also, if you blinked, you missed this ebay listing that popped up late last night, and immediately sold just a few hours after going live:

 

http://item.ebay.co.uk/331787648086?item_hash4=c5c2c701&LH_Complete=1&LH_BIN=1&LH_BO=1&_ipg=200&_pgn=1&rc=nt&rmvSB=true

 

It was the first copy of any kind to hit ebay in six months.

 

The Winter Soldier #1 cover is almost just as hard to find. It's probably also my #2 all time favourite by him. The composition of the painting, the lighting effects on the gun, what can I say. The man has talent.

 

I will be updating the thread with a "club list" of boardies who own some of his best known books (i.e. the ASM 667 and X 23 1). If you posted your copy of the ASM 667 in the other thread please do so again here so I can update this new thread.

 

Also, no haters please. This is an APPRECIATION THREAD. Thanks.

 

-J.

 

 

 

 

I enjoyed his Secret War mini series with Captain America, Black Widow, Original Nick Fury, Spiderman and Wolverine on the covers.

 

Edited May 2, 2018 by Cooley88

[Jaydogrules]

1 hour ago, Subby1938 said:

Do you have a picture ? He’s only done few black suit paintings

It was this.  

 

[Subby1938]

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[Jaydogrules]

Hey guys, weigh in on this freshly graded 9.2, ASM 667 Dell'otto:

-J.

Edited May 4, 2018 by Jaydogrules

[deadleg]

One more to go to complete the Sex and Violence set.

[Jaydogrules]

16 minutes ago, deadleg said:

One more to go to complete the Sex and Violence set.

Nice  !  That's my favorite one from the set.

-J.

Edited May 5, 2018 by Jaydogrules

[obsidian00]

On 5/4/2018 at 11:10 AM, Jaydogrules said:

Hey guys, weigh in on this freshly graded 9.2, ASM 667 Dell'otto:

-J.

I think a press can potentially bump this up to a 9.4 based on those notes. I remember  9.4 sold privately last year during NYCC for about 4400 pounds which comes out to about $6k thru Scott's Collectibles.

If I had this book, I would probably go for Dell'Otto signature along with a press.  I would never try that with a 9.8 but with this grade it would probably be the only one in the census with his signature.  The other I remember was Stan Lee and somebody else.

I know some are not fans of CGC SS but that's just me.

[Jaydogrules]

2 hours ago, obsidian00 said:

I think a press can potentially bump this up to a 9.4 based on those notes. I remember  9.4 sold privately last year during NYCC for about 4400 pounds which comes out to about $6k thru Scott's Collectibles.

If I had this book, I would probably go for Dell'Otto signature along with a press.  I would never try that with a 9.8 but with this grade it would probably be the only one in the census with his signature.  The other I remember was Stan Lee and somebody else.

I know some are not fans of CGC SS but that's just me.

 Another 9.4 sold privately this year for $7k. 

I get what you're saying about the notes but they are misleading.  While some of that may be pressable, numerous colour breaking spine ticks are not.  Pressing and flattening those out might even make them more noticeable and therefore worse.  

-J.

[Subby1938]

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[kevhtx]

26 minutes ago, Subby1938 said:

Creased covers won’t press crease out! Same goes with art work that has a fold . Same type of machinery is used. Keep it as is be happy you have one

Light creases that don't break color should press out. I've done it many times. Even the CCS website says they are good candidates. You are right though when they break color. In this case, one says light and the other says very light. 

[Jaydogrules]

1 hour ago, kevhtx said:

Light creases that don't break color should press out. I've done it many times. Even the CCS website says they are good candidates. You are right though when they break color. In this case, one says light and the other says very light. 

People keep talking about the creases.  It's the colour breaking spine ticks won't press out and are what will likely keep it a 9.2.

-J.

[kevhtx]

Looking at the pics, they won't keep it at 9.2. As the notes say, "very light". It's a 9.4 easy. With a lenient grader, 9.6. It wouldn't come back lower than 9.2 so its worth the try. 

[Jaydogrules]

50 minutes ago, kevhtx said:

Looking at the pics, they won't keep it at 9.2. As the notes say, "very light". It's a 9.4 easy. With a lenient grader, 9.6. It wouldn't come back lower than 9.2 so its worth the try. 

Yes but the key term is that they break colour.  Pressing even light colour breaking creases out can actually make them worse by moving them off the apex of the spine where they may be less visible and onto the front or the back cover.  

No way that book is ever a 9.6.  Ever.  I think it stays a 9.2.

-J.

[kevhtx]

You'd be surprised. I've done many, many books with similar notes that break color and some have jumped 2 grades. I've had books that break color get 9.8 (one very small tick mind you). 9.6 is not impossible, but low percent. 9.4 is very likely.

To me, it looked like it had two very small ticks that broke color. If that's the case and all other defects are gone after press, it could reach 9.6. I'm not saying it will. My money would be on 9.4, but my next bet would be 9.6. Pressing moderns usually does well and some graders are lenient on them.

Hope they do it so we can see what happens.

Edited May 6, 2018 by kevhtx

[obsidian00]

9 hours ago, kevhtx said:

You'd be surprised. I've done many, many books with similar notes that break color and some have jumped 2 grades. I've had books that break color get 9.8 (one very small tick mind you). 9.6 is not impossible, but low percent. 9.4 is very likely.

To me, it looked like it had two very small ticks that broke color. If that's the case and all other defects are gone after press, it could reach 9.6. I'm not saying it will. My money would be on 9.4, but my next bet would be 9.6. Pressing moderns usually does well and some graders are lenient on them.

Hope they do it so we can see what happens.

I had a ASM 678 that had 3 distinct color break spine ticks on the cover and it came back a 9.6.   As Kev mentioned, moderns do well and with that lenient grader you have the makings of at least a 9.4 and a outside chance of 9.6.

[Jaydogrules]

46 minutes ago, obsidian00 said:

I had a ASM 678 that had 3 distinct color break spine ticks on the cover and it came back a 9.6.   As Kev mentioned, moderns do well and with that lenient grader you have the makings of at least a 9.4 and a outside chance of 9.6.

That's interesting because I feel as though they are more likely to cut a little more slack on a vintage book than a modern.  And the 678 shows spine ticks much more readily than the 667 does.  As someone mentioned, the white front cover of the 667 hides colour breaking defects in a scan.  There could be half a dozen  or more of them on that front cover, with just a few of them extending around to the back cover.  It certainly wouldn't just be a couple of them for it to get knocked down to a 9.2, as a couple of "very light" non colour breaking creases with just a couple of spine ticks would not (or at least should not) result in a 9.2 grade.  

-J.

Edited May 6, 2018 by Jaydogrules

[kevhtx]

I don't want to really expand here out in the open forums since it may be viewed as a flaw on the grading. It's a bit more specific than just lenient on moderns. If I need to expand I can do so via pm.