mysterio Posted February 29, 2016 Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) Home page Edited March 12, 2016 by mysterio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterio Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 Looks like new dates three weeks later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdoginohio Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 They changed the date of the Columbus show also. Probably trying to keep them farther apart for maximum attendance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterio Posted March 13, 2016 Author Share Posted March 13, 2016 They changed the date of the Columbus show also. Probably trying to keep them farther apart for maximum attendance. This new Cleveland date actually puts it closer to Columbus. They moved Columbus back to July and Pittsburgh to November to space those out. I guess moving Cleveland puts 3-4 months between that trio of shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carcrawfordfan Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Is C2E2 2017 scheduled yet? That would be the same weekend if they don't move.I don't think anyone wants to come to Cleveland for St. Pats day and/or vs Chicago next year. Seems like a bad move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterio Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 Two months away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Cool Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Friday is going to be a cluster F since St Patrick's Day is huge in Cleveland. The people that will be going downtown will be drunk as skunks after the parade ends at 2:00ish. I'm sure some will mosey on over to the Con but most will be broke and drunk - nice combo. I may go on Saturday to cosplay with my wife but I'm sitting this show out since I sense disaster that weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revat Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) Anytime you can go to Cleveland in winter and pay money to see Michael C Hall and Salvador Larrocca (EASILY THE TWO BEST GUESTS), you gotta do it, especially if there will be a bunch of dangerously drunk 'bros' wandering around. On a totally unrelated note, how's the Wizard bankruptcy thing going? Edited January 18, 2017 by Revat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterio Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 On a totally unrelated note, how's the Wizard bankruptcy thing going? They still have a website, and apparently they are still doing shows, so for now they appear to be solvent. But all the dealers I have talked to are hedging bets and won't book any tables at a Wizard show too far in advance... So I guess we will see if they are still around by this show or by the end of the year. NO has always been a profitable show for them, so they likely got some cash to operate off of. But it's that stretch through the middle of the year, with shows like St. Louis, Des Moines, Sacramento and Albuquerque, that I'm most worried about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revat Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 On a totally unrelated note, how's the Wizard bankruptcy thing going? They still have a website, and apparently they are still doing shows, so for now they appear to be solvent. But all the dealers I have talked to are hedging bets and won't book any tables at a Wizard show too far in advance... So I guess we will see if they are still around by this show or by the end of the year. NO has always been a profitable show for them, so they likely got some cash to operate off of. But it's that stretch through the middle of the year, with shows like Des Moines and Albuquerque, that I'm most worried about. I think Philly and Chicago do well for them too. But some of these more 'random' ones (I guess costs are lower)....Cleveland, Sacramento and the ones you mentioned, it seems like they're putting on shows just to put them on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterio Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 On a totally unrelated note, how's the Wizard bankruptcy thing going? They still have a website, and apparently they are still doing shows, so for now they appear to be solvent. But all the dealers I have talked to are hedging bets and won't book any tables at a Wizard show too far in advance... So I guess we will see if they are still around by this show or by the end of the year. NO has always been a profitable show for them, so they likely got some cash to operate off of. But it's that stretch through the middle of the year, with shows like Des Moines and Albuquerque, that I'm most worried about. I think Philly and Chicago do well for them too. But some of these more 'random' ones (I guess costs are lower)....Cleveland, Sacramento and the ones you mentioned, it seems like they're putting on shows just to put them on. It sounded like Cleveland was a good show last year with plenty through the door, but I don't claim to know specifics. It could have been a profitable show. And others like NO, Philly, and Chicago are also certainly profitable (or ought to be if they're doing them right). I agree that the "random" shows as you put it should be off their calendar. If they could put on 8-10 profitable shows there is no reason to do 15-20 by including marginal shows. Or wait until you can sprinkle a show into a new area to try to grow it among other profitable shows on your schedule. But to expand into so many marginal markets as rapidly as they did was clearly a recipe for disaster. And doubling down on many of those marginal shows has been stupid, unless they stood to lose more money by not holding those shows because of guaranteed contracts they were beholden to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Cool Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 On a totally unrelated note, how's the Wizard bankruptcy thing going? They still have a website, and apparently they are still doing shows, so for now they appear to be solvent. But all the dealers I have talked to are hedging bets and won't book any tables at a Wizard show too far in advance... So I guess we will see if they are still around by this show or by the end of the year. NO has always been a profitable show for them, so they likely got some cash to operate off of. But it's that stretch through the middle of the year, with shows like Des Moines and Albuquerque, that I'm most worried about. I think Philly and Chicago do well for them too. But some of these more 'random' ones (I guess costs are lower)....Cleveland, Sacramento and the ones you mentioned, it seems like they're putting on shows just to put them on. It sounded like Cleveland was a good show last year with plenty through the door, but I don't claim to know specifics. It could have been a profitable show. And others like NO, Philly, and Chicago are also certainly profitable (or ought to be if they're doing them right). I agree that the "random" shows as you put it should be off their calendar. If they could put on 8-10 profitable shows there is no reason to do 15-20 by including marginal shows. Or wait until you can sprinkle a show into a new area to try to grow it among other profitable shows on your schedule. But to expand into so many marginal markets as rapidly as they did was clearly a recipe for disaster. And doubling down on many of those marginal shows has been stupid, unless they stood to lose more money by not holding those shows because of guaranteed contracts they were beholden to. I set up at Cleveland last year and it was a good show all the way around (good numbers, good celebs, dealers were happy) but they moved it back a month and picked St Patrick Day weekend. February was perfect since there is nothing going on and everyone is stir crazy so it was a big draw. Mid March is tapering into spring and people are hitting spring break so I just don't think it will do as well. Unless they can pull in some big names like last year (Matt Smith from Doctor Who and the guy from Thor) it is going to be a dud all the way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Cool Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) At least the list of celebs coming to the Portland show seem to be even worse then the Cleveland show and that show is less then a month away. Edited January 18, 2017 by 1Cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revat Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 At least the list of celebs coming to the Portland show seem to be even worse then the Cleveland show and that show is only a couple weeks away. Everyone else is worse, but the Orphan Black girl fresh off her Emmy is HUGE, she hasn't done that many signings yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Cool Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 At least the list of celebs coming to the Portland show seem to be even worse then the Cleveland show and that show is only a couple weeks away. Everyone else is worse, but the Orphan Black girl fresh off her Emmy is HUGE, she hasn't done that many signings yet. What is Orphan Black? Never heard of it but I'll look it up tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revat Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 At least the list of celebs coming to the Portland show seem to be even worse then the Cleveland show and that show is only a couple weeks away. Everyone else is worse, but the Orphan Black girl fresh off her Emmy is HUGE, she hasn't done that many signings yet. What is Orphan Black? Never heard of it but I'll look it up tonight. Awesome sci fi show on BBC America. She plays multiple clones of herself. Its all very impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterio Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 At least the list of celebs coming to the Portland show seem to be even worse then the Cleveland show and that show is only a couple weeks away. Everyone else is worse, but the Orphan Black girl fresh off her Emmy is HUGE, she hasn't done that many signings yet. What is Orphan Black? Never heard of it but I'll look it up tonight. Awesome sci fi show on BBC America. She plays multiple clones of herself. Its all very impressive. I've heard that that show is good, and also why "Clone" from Image had their TV deal fall through because the concepts were too similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterio Posted January 19, 2017 Author Share Posted January 19, 2017 Gene Simmons added as a guest, and his band will be doing a concert. Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Cool Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Gene Simmons added as a guest, and his band will be doing a concert. Link It's something I guess but it would be a LOT cooler if it was all of KISS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mysterio Posted January 19, 2017 Author Share Posted January 19, 2017 Gene Simmons added as a guest, and his band will be doing a concert. Link It's something I guess but it would be a LOT cooler if it was all of KISS. True, but then Wizard would be awfully unlikely to afford that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
