Brian48 Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Just saw a movie called Hostiles (the one with Christian Bale). It occurred to while watching it, Ben Foster wouldn't be a bad choice to play Lobo. Based on some of his other movies, he can definitely pour on the intensity and darkness if he needs too. ComicConnoisseur and Callaway29 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicConnoisseur Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 On 10/5/2018 at 11:45 PM, rabidwolf said: That’s really not that much in comparison to many of the modern “keys” that sell for multiples of omega men 3. There’s more than twice as many NM98s for example. The other surprising thing about omega men 3 is still no 9.9 or 10 graded. I have a feeling some of the 9.8s are regrades of people trying to get the illusive 9.9 or 10 there are almost 1100 9.8 1st venoms not to mention several 9.9s and as we all know those 9.8s go for 10 times an omega men 3 IMHO omega is a very undervalued book I agree. Lobo is DC`s Venom. I would say I put Omega Men #3 up there with New Teen Titans #2 as the two biggest DC keys since 1980 because Lobo and Deathstroke are the two best new characters DC has created since 1980. A strong third would be John Constantine. Lucky Baru and STORMSHADOW_80 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cimm Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 hours ago, ComicConnoisseur said: I agree. Lobo is DC`s Venom. I would say I put Omega Men #3 up there with New Teen Titans #2 as the two biggest DC keys since 1980 because Lobo and Deathstroke are the two best new characters DC has created since 1980. A strong third would be John Constantine. Say What?!??! "A strong third"??!????!?? Man, I have no words. John Constantine is one of my favourite characters from the 80s, along with Badger, Grim Jack & Jon Sable. Lobo is ok, but Deathstroke who? ComicConnoisseur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicConnoisseur Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Cimm said: Say What?!??! "A strong third"??!????!?? Man, I have no words. John Constantine is one of my favourite characters from the 80s, along with Badger, Grim Jack & Jon Sable. Lobo is ok, but Deathstroke who? From a standpoint for video games and action figures to go along with movies/TV I have to put John Constantine at number 3. Deathstroke = Deadpool Lobo = Venom John Constantine = ? Just from a marketing standpoint I see Deathstroke crossing many more different media than John Constantine. John`s a acquired taste. So Deathstroke number one. lol. Lucky Baru 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicConnoisseur Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Cimm said: Say What?!??! "A strong third"??!????!?? Man, I have no words. John Constantine is one of my favourite characters from the 80s, along with Badger, Grim Jack & Jon Sable. Lobo is ok, but Deathstroke who? Good list. I would put Dreadstar and Nexus in there as well. Lucky Baru 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cimm Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ComicConnoisseur said: From a standpoint for video games and action figures to go along with movies/TV I have to put John Constantine at number 3. Deathstroke = Deadpool Lobo = Venom John Constantine = ? Just from a marketing standpoint I see Deathstroke crossing many more different media than John Constantine. John`s a acquired taste. So Deathstroke number one. lol. That's because DC (current leadership) doesn't realize that John Constantine is John Wick with magic instead of guns. EDIT... I just realized what an unfortunate parallel that is given that Keanu sucked as JC and rocks as JW. Edited October 12, 2018 by Cimm ComicConnoisseur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 3 hours ago, ComicConnoisseur said: On 10/5/2018 at 9:45 PM, rabidwolf said: That’s really not that much in comparison to many of the modern “keys” that sell for multiples of omega men 3. There’s more than twice as many NM98s for example. The other surprising thing about omega men 3 is still no 9.9 or 10 graded. I have a feeling some of the 9.8s are regrades of people trying to get the illusive 9.9 or 10 there are almost 1100 9.8 1st venoms not to mention several 9.9s and as we all know those 9.8s go for 10 times an omega men 3 IMHO omega is a very undervalued book I agree. Lobo is DC`s Venom. I would say I put Omega Men #3 up there with New Teen Titans #2 as the two biggest DC keys since 1980 because Lobo and Deathstroke are the two best new characters DC has created since 1980. A strong third would be John Constantine. Ummm.....none of those books are close to the actual biggest DC key since 1980. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicConnoisseur Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 12 minutes ago, kimik said: Ummm.....none of those books are close to the actual biggest DC key since 1980. Ok, I will bite what is? Watchmen #1 or Dark Knight Returns? Before you answer I was thinking more along the lines since 1980 that Deathstroke, Lobo and John Constantine have been the three big new key characters introduced in the DC Universe. I could though see an argument for the Watchmen characters? Lucky Baru 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cimm Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, ComicConnoisseur said: Ok, I will bite what is? Watchmen #1 or Dark Knight Returns? Before you answer I was thinking more along the lines since 1980 that Deathstroke, Lobo and John Constantine have been the three big new key characters introduced in the DC Universe. I could though see an argument for the Watchmen characters? Harley Quinn... hands down the "biggest" character DC has had in the last 30 years ComicConnoisseur and WolverineX 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicConnoisseur Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 55 minutes ago, Cimm said: Harley Quinn... hands down the "biggest" character DC has had in the last 30 years Yes, but technically she debuted on Batman The Animated Series and not in the comics. Lucky Baru 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cimm Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, ComicConnoisseur said: Yes, but technically she debuted on Batman The Animated Series and not in the comics. Doesn't keep Batman Adventures #12 from being the hottest modern key out there. And realistically, the Harley Quinn that became so popular, wasn't the Harley Quinn that was Joker's girlfriend... the Harley Quinn whose popularity went stratospheric was the "reformed" bad girl heroine that Amanda Connors brought. ComicConnoisseur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 27 minutes ago, Cimm said: Doesn't keep Batman Adventures #12 from being the hottest modern key out there. And realistically, the Harley Quinn that became so popular, wasn't the Harley Quinn that was Joker's girlfriend... the Harley Quinn whose popularity went stratospheric was the "reformed" bad girl heroine that Amanda Connors brought. I thought it got crazy after Margo Robbie showed up... ComicConnoisseur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cimm Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Wolverinex said: I thought it got crazy after Margo Robbie showed up... Nah, if anything, I'd say she slowed it down. Which is not to say that movie hype did not influence the climb, but it was climbing before the movie & it was climbing after the movie. Wish I owned one. Not really in my wheelhouse though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicConnoisseur Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 So a revision of the top four new DC heroes since 1980. 1. Harley Quinn. 2.Deathstroke 3. Lobo 4. John Constantine any other DC heroes that should join the list? Lucky Baru 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 28 minutes ago, ComicConnoisseur said: So a revision of the top four new DC heroes since 1980. 1. Harley Quinn. 2.Deathstroke 3. Lobo 4. John Constantine any other DC heroes that should join the list? Booster Gold? Maybe Damian Wayne or Jason Todd Red Hood. Other than that, there really isn't anything more of note to be honest. Azrael had a run in the early 90s that has crashed. Stephanie Brown/Prowler has cooled off a lot (I still think there is decent potential with her long term, though), and Cassandra Cain/Batgirl or Kate Kane/Batwoman are just being hyped now due to TV rumors. ComicConnoisseur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cimm Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, ComicConnoisseur said: So a revision of the top four new DC heroes since 1980. 1. Harley Quinn. 2. John Constantine 3. Lobo 4. Deathstroke any other DC heroes that should join the list? Fixed that for ya. Edited October 12, 2018 by Cimm spacing & hilarity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, ComicConnoisseur said: So a revision of the top four new DC heroes since 1980. 1. Harley Quinn. 2.Deathstroke 3. Lobo 4. John Constantine any other DC heroes that should join the list? Batman Beyond yo ComicConnoisseur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, Wolverinex said: Batman Beyond yo Who? Edited October 12, 2018 by kimik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, kimik said: ...Stephanie Brown/Prowler has cooled off a lot (I still think there is decent potential with her long term, though)... Spoiler Spoiler Edited October 13, 2018 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 13 hours ago, Cimm said: ...And realistically, the Harley Quinn that became so popular, wasn't the Harley Quinn that was Joker's girlfriend... the Harley Quinn whose popularity went stratospheric was the "reformed" bad girl heroine that Amanda Connors brought. I'm not sure I would agree with that. There's no denying HQ's popularity is at an all time high, however she was already extremely popular prior to the New 52 reboot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
