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The Frazetta Motherload
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10 hours ago, cstojano said:

Heritage sold a bunch of signed green label books from the Frazetta estate last year some time. Prices were more than I was willing to pay but nowhere near the CGC SS equivalent. That yellow label matters.

This one was reasonable as its unsigned. Still glad to have the provenance. 

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22 minutes ago, Buck Biggins said:

Almost 10 years ago I got this done. Wish I could have found a Beware copy as well to get signed. Looked like crazy and called every dealer. Could not locate a single copy. 

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I have GOT to get me one of these.(worship)

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On 3/25/2016 at 3:32 PM, wombat said:

I would love to have either of those. Doesn't matter to me that those books aren't considered desirable or expensive. Now if I could just find one.

What grade range are you looking for?

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On 12/5/2018 at 6:25 PM, cstojano said:

So I collected a large number of images I could find online of Frazetta SS pieces. Unfortunately, more than half are corrupted for some reason. That said, the dates are pretty consistent. I see the following dates on labels

11/23/08

5/10/08

7/12/08

1/11/09

5/29/09

5/30/09

 

@cstojano

Here's what I see that correlates to new Signature Series appearing in the CGC Census for books with known Frazetta credits, near those graded dates:

5/10/08 = 35 new SS on the 5/29/2008 census 

7/12/08 = 38 new SS on the 8/5/2008 census, 12 new SS on the 10/31/2008 census (which could be anytime after 8/5 before 10/31).

11/23/08 = 5 new SS on the 12/4/2008 census, 14 new SS on the 1/13/2009 census (which could be anytime after 12/4 before 1/13).

1/11/09 = 12 new SS on the 2/18/2009 census, 10 new SS on the 3/17/2009 census (which could be anytime after 2/18 before 3/17).

5 new SS copies of Creepy 1 on the 4/10/2009 census but after the 3/17/2009 census... not sure that corresponds to any known Frazetta signing date.

5/29/09-5/30/09 = 19 new SS on the 6/24/2009 census, 20 new SS on the 8/11/2009 census (which could be anytime after 6/24 before 8/11).

Those totals above are 165 potential Frazetta SS books, not counting the 5 copies of Creepy 1 from the 4/10/2009 census.

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19 hours ago, valiantman said:

@cstojano

Here's what I see that correlates to new Signature Series appearing in the CGC Census for books with known Frazetta credits, near those graded dates:

5/10/08 = 35 new SS on the 5/29/2008 census 

7/12/08 = 38 new SS on the 8/5/2008 census, 12 new SS on the 10/31/2008 census (which could be anytime after 8/5 before 10/31).

11/23/08 = 5 new SS on the 12/4/2008 census, 14 new SS on the 1/13/2009 census (which could be anytime after 12/4 before 1/13).

1/11/09 = 12 new SS on the 2/18/2009 census, 10 new SS on the 3/17/2009 census (which could be anytime after 2/18 before 3/17).

5 new SS copies of Creepy 1 on the 4/10/2009 census but after the 3/17/2009 census... not sure that corresponds to any known Frazetta signing date.

5/29/09-5/30/09 = 19 new SS on the 6/24/2009 census, 20 new SS on the 8/11/2009 census (which could be anytime after 6/24 before 8/11).

Those totals above are 165 potential Frazetta SS books, not counting the 5 copies of Creepy 1 from the 4/10/2009 census.

Good detective work!(thumbsu

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On 3/27/2019 at 5:54 PM, valiantman said:

@cstojano

Here's what I see that correlates to new Signature Series appearing in the CGC Census for books with known Frazetta credits, near those graded dates:

5/10/08 = 35 new SS on the 5/29/2008 census 

7/12/08 = 38 new SS on the 8/5/2008 census, 12 new SS on the 10/31/2008 census (which could be anytime after 8/5 before 10/31).

11/23/08 = 5 new SS on the 12/4/2008 census, 14 new SS on the 1/13/2009 census (which could be anytime after 12/4 before 1/13).

1/11/09 = 12 new SS on the 2/18/2009 census, 10 new SS on the 3/17/2009 census (which could be anytime after 2/18 before 3/17).

5 new SS copies of Creepy 1 on the 4/10/2009 census but after the 3/17/2009 census... not sure that corresponds to any known Frazetta signing date.

5/29/09-5/30/09 = 19 new SS on the 6/24/2009 census, 20 new SS on the 8/11/2009 census (which could be anytime after 6/24 before 8/11).

Those totals above are 165 potential Frazetta SS books, not counting the 5 copies of Creepy 1 from the 4/10/2009 census.

REVISED ESTIMATES BASED ON MORE DATABASE/GOOGLE/CGCBOARD RESULTS:

5/10/08 = 41 SS (40 yellow, 1 restored SS): 25 of the 41 CGC serial numbers known

7/12/08 = 50 SS (49 yellow, 1 restored SS): 20 of the 50 CGC serial numbers known

11/23/08 = 21 SS (21 yellow SS): 15 of the 21 CGC serial numbers known

1/11/09 = 34 SS (31 yellow SS, 3 restored SS): 15 of the 34 CGC serial numbers known

5/30/09 = 45 SS (44 yellow SS, 1 restored SS): 29 of the 45 CGC serial numbers known

5 new SS copies of Creepy 1 on the 4/10/2009 census but after the 3/17/2009 census... these appear to be from a Jack Davis signing on January 21, 2009.

REVISED ESTIMATE TOTAL: 191 Frazetta Signature Series (185 Yellow SS, 6 Restored Yellow/Purple SS): 110 of the 191 CGC serial numbers are known/located/seen in photos/registries online.

It's likely that some of the SS that appeared on the CGC census at the right times were non-Frazetta SS.  For example, the May 10, 2008 Frazetta signing was probably 40 books, not 41.  Maybe it was 50 books... because...

If a SS book was already on the CGC census and Frazetta was added later, then the CGC census would not change. For example, the January 11, 2009 Frazetta signing could have been 35 books, instead of 34, with one book adding Frazetta after already being a SS book and there would be no change in the CGC census.

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Here's a summary of what I estimate comprises the Frazetta SS:

Adventure Comics #150 - 5.5 (Crippen copy)
Blazing Combat #1 - 8.0
Blazing Combat #3 - 9.0
Blazing Combat #4 - 9.4
Bobby Benson's B-Bar-B Riders #13 - 4.5
Conan the Frazetta Cover Series #1 (2007) - 9.8
Creepy #1 - 6 copies from 5.5 to 9.4
Creepy #2 - 5.0
Creepy #3 - 3 copies from 9.2 to 9.6
Creepy #4 - 4 copies from 8.5 to 9.6
Creepy #5 - 3 copies from 4.5 to 7.0
Creepy #6 - 9.0
Creepy #7 - 3 copies from 9.2 to 9.4
Creepy #9 - 3 copies from 9.4 to 9.8
Creepy #10 - 9.6
Creepy #11 - 3 copies from 9.2 to 9.6
Creepy #15 - 5 copies from 9.4 to 9.6
Creepy #16 - 7.5
Creepy #27 - 5 copies from 9.6 to 9.8
Creepy #32 - 9.2
Crime SuspenStories #17 - 7.0
Death Dealer (Verotik) #1 - 2 copies from 9.4 to 9.8
Death Dealer (Verotik) #2 - 9.8
Death Dealer (Verotik) #4 - 9.8
Eerie #2 - 3 copies from 9.2 to 9.4
Eerie #3 - 9.4
Eerie #5 - 4 copies from 9.4 to 9.6
Eerie #7 - 3 copies from 9.2 to 9.6
Eerie #8 - 9.2
Eerie #23 - 2 copies from 8.5 to 9.0
Eerie #81 - 9.6
Epic Illustrated #1 - 2 copies from 9.0 to 9.8
Famous Funnies #209 - 4 copies from 6.0 to 9.2
Famous Funnies #210 - 9.6
Famous Funnies #211 - 7 copies from 4.0 to 9.0
Famous Funnies #212 - 3 copies from 6.5 to 9.0
Famous Funnies #213 - 7.0
Famous Funnies #216 - 2 copies from 2.0 to 9.4
Frank Frazetta's Dark Kingdom #1 - 3 copies from 9.4 to 9.8
Frank Frazetta's Death Dealer #1 - 4 copies from 9.4 to 9.8
Frank Frazetta's Death Dealer #1 Sketch Cover - 9.8
Frank Frazetta's Death Dealer #3 - 2 copies both 9.8
Frank Frazetta's Death Dealer #3 Sketch Cover - 9.8
Frank Frazetta's Death Dealer #4 - 9.4
Frank Frazetta's Death Dealer #4 Sketch Cover - 2 copies from 9.6 to 9.8
Frank Frazetta's Moon Maid #1 Gold Foil - 9.8
Ghost Rider #2 - Restored 2.0
Ghost Rider #3 - 2 copies: an 8.5, Restored 4.0
Ghost Rider #4 - 2 copies both 5.0
Ghost Rider #5 - 4.5
Li'l Abner and the Creatures from Drop-Outer Space - 8.5
National Lampoon #41 - 9.4
Tally-Ho Comics - 3 copies, two 5.5, one 9.6
Thunda #1 - 6 copies, four from 2.5 to 8.5, two restored from 6.0 to 6.5
Tim Holt #17 - 1.8
Tim Holt #21 - 2 copies from 4.0 to 9.0
Vampirella (1969) #1 - 28 copies from 4.0 to 9.4 including a Restored 8.0
Vampirella #5 - 6 copies from 7.5 to 9.6
Vampirella #7 - 6 copies from 7.0 to 9.4
Vampirella #11 - 2 copies from 7.0. to 7.5
Vampirella #31 - 6.5
Vampirella (1996) 25th Anniversary Special - 9.8
Vampirella (2001) 1969 Commemorative Edition #1 Blue Foil Edition - 8 copies from 9.0 to 9.8
Vampirella (2001) 1969 Commemorative Edition #1 Silver Foil Edition - 9.6
Weird Fantasy #20 - 2 copies from 3.0 to 9.6
Weird Science #20 - 6.0
Weird Science #20 Canada - 7.5
Weird Science-Fantasy #29 - 13 copies from 2.0 to 7.0 including a Restored 4.0

Feel free to add any title that's missing or any known grade higher or lower than the ranges shown.

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On 3/29/2019 at 6:00 PM, valiantman said:

Here's a summary of what I estimate comprises the Frazetta SS:

Adventure Comics #150 - 5.5 (Crippen copy)
Blazing Combat #1 - 8.0
Blazing Combat #3 - 9.0
Blazing Combat #4 - 9.4
Bobby Benson's B-Bar-B Riders #13 - 4.5
Conan the Frazetta Cover Series #1 (2007) - 9.8
Creepy #1 - 6 copies from 5.5 to 9.4
Creepy #2 - 5.0
Creepy #3 - 3 copies from 9.2 to 9.6
Creepy #4 - 4 copies from 8.5 to 9.6
Creepy #5 - 3 copies from 4.5 to 7.0
Creepy #6 - 9.0
Creepy #7 - 3 copies from 9.2 to 9.4
Creepy #9 - 3 copies from 9.4 to 9.8
Creepy #10 - 9.6
Creepy #11 - 3 copies from 9.2 to 9.6
Creepy #15 - 5 copies from 9.4 to 9.6
Creepy #16 - 7.5
Creepy #27 - 5 copies from 9.6 to 9.8
Creepy #32 - 9.2
Crime SuspenStories #17 - 7.0
Death Dealer (Verotik) #1 - 2 copies from 9.4 to 9.8
Death Dealer (Verotik) #2 - 9.8
Death Dealer (Verotik) #4 - 9.8
Eerie #2 - 3 copies from 9.2 to 9.4
Eerie #3 - 9.4
Eerie #5 - 4 copies from 9.4 to 9.6
Eerie #7 - 3 copies from 9.2 to 9.6
Eerie #8 - 9.2
Eerie #23 - 2 copies from 8.5 to 9.0
Eerie #81 - 9.6
Epic Illustrated #1 - 2 copies from 9.0 to 9.8
Famous Funnies #209 - 4 copies from 6.0 to 9.2
Famous Funnies #210 - 9.6
Famous Funnies #211 - 7 copies from 4.0 to 9.0
Famous Funnies #212 - 3 copies from 6.5 to 9.0
Famous Funnies #213 - 7.0
Famous Funnies #216 - 2 copies from 2.0 to 9.4
Frank Frazetta's Dark Kingdom #1 - 3 copies from 9.4 to 9.8
Frank Frazetta's Death Dealer #1 - 4 copies from 9.4 to 9.8
Frank Frazetta's Death Dealer #1 Sketch Cover - 9.8
Frank Frazetta's Death Dealer #3 - 2 copies both 9.8
Frank Frazetta's Death Dealer #3 Sketch Cover - 9.8
Frank Frazetta's Death Dealer #4 - 9.4
Frank Frazetta's Death Dealer #4 Sketch Cover - 2 copies from 9.6 to 9.8
Frank Frazetta's Moon Maid #1 Gold Foil - 9.8
Ghost Rider #2 - Restored 2.0
Ghost Rider #3 - 2 copies: an 8.5, Restored 4.0
Ghost Rider #4 - 2 copies both 5.0
Ghost Rider #5 - 4.5
Li'l Abner and the Creatures from Drop-Outer Space - 8.5
National Lampoon #41 - 9.4
Tally-Ho Comics - 3 copies, two 5.5, one 9.6
Thunda #1 - 6 copies, four from 2.5 to 8.5, two restored from 6.0 to 6.5
Tim Holt #17 - 1.8
Tim Holt #21 - 2 copies from 4.0 to 9.0
Vampirella (1969) #1 - 28 copies from 4.0 to 9.4 including a Restored 8.0
Vampirella #5 - 6 copies from 7.5 to 9.6
Vampirella #7 - 6 copies from 7.0 to 9.4
Vampirella #11 - 2 copies from 7.0. to 7.5
Vampirella #31 - 6.5
Vampirella (1996) 25th Anniversary Special - 9.8
Vampirella (2001) 1969 Commemorative Edition #1 Blue Foil Edition - 8 copies from 9.0 to 9.8
Vampirella (2001) 1969 Commemorative Edition #1 Silver Foil Edition - 9.6
Weird Fantasy #20 - 2 copies from 3.0 to 9.6
Weird Science #20 - 6.0
Weird Science #20 Canada - 7.5
Weird Science-Fantasy #29 - 13 copies from 2.0 to 7.0 including a Restored 4.0

Feel free to add any title that's missing or any known grade higher or lower than the ranges shown.

Awesome job!

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1 hour ago, icefires said:

From the estimated 191 Frazetta SS books, which one is the most valuable of them all?

 

Is it the Epic 1 CGC 9.8?  (Asking $50,000 right now on Ebay).

No, that asking price isn't consistent with reality. Until there is a sale, the asking prices are meaningless.  Tally-Ho Comics #1 CGC 9.6 would be a tough one to beat. Famous Funnies at 9.0 and higher are great also. Vampirella #1 CGC 9.4... there are lots of books better than the Epic. hm

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I’d say the Tally-Ho myself. His first professional work in a comic and it’s the Edgar Church copy. The Vampi #1 at a 9.4 would have to be right up there as well. 

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3 hours ago, valiantman said:

No, that asking price isn't consistent with reality. Until there is a sale, the asking prices are meaningless.  Tally-Ho Comics #1 CGC 9.6 would be a tough one to beat. Famous Funnies at 9.0 and higher are great also. Vampirella #1 CGC 9.4... there are lots of books better than the Epic. hm

The 50k number is the number of times I expect to see this book relisted. 

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