RedRaven Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TwoPiece said: Nice story, but, what in the hell is a "spaghetti western"..? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghetti_Western Quote Spaghetti Western, also known as Italian Western or Macaroni Western (primarily in Japan),[1] is a broad subgenre of Western films that emerged in the mid-1960s in the wake of Sergio Leone's film-making style and international box-office success.[2] The term was used by American critics and those in other countries because most of these Westerns were produced and directed by Italians.[3] When I use the term I am referring to ONLY the Sergio Leone films with Clint Eastwood. Edited March 18, 2019 by RedRaven theCapraAegagrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 minute ago, RedRaven said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghetti_Western I feel really old now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatsby77 Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, TwoPiece said: Nice story, but, what in the hell is a "spaghetti western"..? Umm...dude? Thank you - I now know I no longer need to even read your thoughts on these movies - because you _clearly_ have no sense of film history. My favorite is still The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly -- specifically for that final Mexican stand-off scene where the camera repeatedly pans among all three of them. Edited March 18, 2019 by Gatsby77 ComicConnoisseur, Comicopolis, Juno Beach and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Namor Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, Gatsby77 said: Umm...dude? Thank you - I now know I no longer need to even read your thoughts on these movies - because you _clearly_ have no sense of film history. My favorite is still The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly -- specifically for that final Mexican stand-off scene where the camera repeatedly pans among all three of them. Exactly. One of the most famous genre of American films NOT made in America. Film Class 101. ComicConnoisseur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantastic_four Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 I would think it ironic that a thread about a female superhero would become drenched in man-ego, but hey, it's a forum full of old men, so I suppose I should've expected it from the start. theCapraAegagrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
▫️ Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 24 minutes ago, RedRaven said: About two months ago I discovered that my wife had never seen a single spaghetti western. Promptly purchased all of them on Amazon digital and we spent the next two weekends watching every one (and the Outlaw Josey Wales because why not). We loved it. Definitely a nice change of pace from super-hero movies if you find yourself burnt out with that genre. I hope you had a chance to see The Good, the Bad and the Ugly in the uncut remastered edition. The lost footage that was replaced really helped clarify and expand upon existing scenes. Simply a masterpiece along with Once upon a time in the west. As much as I love comic book movies, they just don’t measure up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 7 hours ago, Bosco685 said: It does get confusing now. A bunch of fans have been trying to keep the story straight. https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Tesseract I need to read through this all. But yes, Odin had it. It was in the vault. I forget sometimes that these stones are not in their original form. They were altered by the Celestials and others. But man, the power from the Tesseract alone is scary. Quote The Tesseract is a cube which contains an Infinity Stone, representing the fabric of space. If used correctly, the Tesseract can open gateways to any part of the universe and provide interdimensional travel. Taking the Tesseract physically, Red Skull was suddenly transported to Vormir where the Soul Stone choose him as a Stonekeeper. Thanos was able to manipulate the Tesseract from afar to open a portal that transported Loki to the Joint Dark Energy Mission Facility, which destroyed the facility. Under its influence, Erik Selvig was able to construct a machine powered by the Tesseract guarded by an impenetrable force field, which opened an enormous portal to the Chitauri. Many believe it is an unlimited source of energy because it draws cosmic energy from space. It appears either intelligent or temperamental since when Erik Selvig was studying it, he noted that it "behaves". When they turn off the power used to harness its energy, the Tesseract turns the power back on using its energy source. Also, the Tesseract was able to recognize Schmidt as "unworthy" to carry the stone which is what caused the opening of the portal to Vormir. Wherever it is drawing its cosmic power from, it appears to be able to be manipulated from the other endpoint as well. The Tesseract also emitted low levels of Gamma Radiation, which interfered with Selvig's methods of harnessing its energy source, and later allowed S.H.I.E.L.D. to track its movements. As an incredible source of power, it can be used to power objects and artifacts of incredible power, such as the Bifrost Bridge. A single spark of its power was enough to create a small explosion. An explosion from a faster than light engine that was powered by the cosmic energy that the Tesseract/Space stone generates was able to imbue Captain marvel with Extremely high levels of power to the point where it gave Danvers the ability to fly, fire blasts of energy out of her body and utilize various other forms of energy manipulation. HYDRA was able to use the Tesseract to power advanced vehicles and weapons of mass destruction including guns, tanks, and bombs that vaporized their targets. It melted through steel on contact, although it could be held using gloves for a short time, as well as in specialist containment units. It could also be handled directly by exceptionally powerful beings such as Captain Marvel, Loki, Ebony Maw, and Thanos. If these stones potentially are self-aware, could they be the undoing of Thanos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, TwoPiece said: It's just a boring stop from Infinity War to Endgame. I'd be better off taking a 2-hour nap to recoup my emotions. I can empathise. I’d been up since 2am with insomnia, went to an 11am showing, thought the introduction on Hala was okay, but fell asleep for a short while when Carol arrived on Earth; a section which did drag a bit, anyway. Edited March 18, 2019 by Ken Aldred theCapraAegagrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 30 minutes ago, revat said: She bought into their propaganda, BUT I think it was pretty clear that A) The Kree probably didn't know the full extent of her power, and genuinely wanted her to learn to master her emotions before letting her unleash it all, and B) Even if she bought into the propaganda, clearly they would have had concerns her real memories might come back, potentially making her a threat. Also C) I'm sure they would have liked to study Carol, and that restraining bolt would almost certainly provide other biometric data that they could potentially learn from. It's not like they replaced her whole life with a full and happy backstory. I think it was very reasonable to keep her power restricted. For all we know, it helped keep her real memories at bay too. Also, I think if she doesn't get her mind played with by the Skrulls AND she doesn't actually go back to earth (where obviously she'd have more memories to jog), the illusion wouldn't have been broken so easily. You bring up some decent points, but, after 6 years she didn't think anything of her "dreams". The entire power-dampening BS was already used in what IMO was a "better" situation (controlling Thor in Ragnarok). Her dampener doesn't make sense, though. If a computer chip can keep her powers at bay (Thor's was at least a neurotoxin/combo), then how can they bill her as "the most powerful superhero in the MCU"? A lot of BS I'd rather not revisit - but you provide some valid arguments to be made other than "you just don't like powerful women". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 29 minutes ago, Gatsby77 said: Umm...dude? Thank you - I now know I no longer need to even read your thoughts on these movies - because you _clearly_ have no sense of film history. My favorite is still The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly -- specifically for that final Mexican stand-off scene where the camera repeatedly pans among all three of them. I've never been interested in the western genre (or its sub-genres). How can you be so pretentious as to disregard someone's well-thought out opinions, just because they haven't (or choose not to) watch every movie in history..? I'm also asking questions to expand knowledge - which is better than continuing to be ignorant, right? This post is just all sorts of wrong. I'm under 30 years old. I'm not some curmudgeon that's been around 80 years and is just completely oblivious. Do you also expect high school student to be omni-cinefiles..? I'm very well-educated regarding comic book movies. It's my favorite genre and I watch/re-watch them all the time. I'm not a damn film critic, but I'm a very level comic book movie 'buff'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Bird said: My 19 year old daughter didn't like the obvious political/refugee stuff and thought that it was too heavy handed I think it was Jim Krueger who came up with the idea that the Skrulls were originally very peaceful, but invasion and subjugation by the Kree caused them to shapeshift psychologically rather than physically into an extremely warlike mindset as a survival response. That is, as far as the Kree / Skrull conflict goes in the comics, the Kree are ultimately their own worst enemy. The victimisation of the Skrulls in the film is very poorly and naively expressed in comparison. Edited March 18, 2019 by Ken Aldred ComicConnoisseur and theCapraAegagrus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystafo Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, fantastic_four said: drenched in man-ego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Chuck Gower said: Exactly. One of the most famous genre of American films NOT made in America. Film Class 101. You would think that he has seen the meme here a million times! Edited March 18, 2019 by Bird theCapraAegagrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ken Aldred said: I think it was Jim Krueger who came up with the idea that the Skrulls were originally very peaceful, but invasion and subjugation by the Kree caused them to shapeshift psychologically rather than physically into an extremely warlike mindset as a survival response. That is, as far as the Kree / Skrull conflict goes in the comics, the Kree are ultimately their own worst enemy. The victimisation of the Skrulls in the film is very poorly and naively expressed in comparison. Because they were going with a persecuted people approach with the Skrulls, this probably led to the Talos the Untamed backstory making him a more reasonable and shape-shifting leader. It was a twist. But that is like making the Mandarin an actor that was pretending to be a deadly terrorist threat. Though I did enjoy seeing the Skrulls live in a big production. Ken Aldred and ComicConnoisseur 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicConnoisseur Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, Ken Aldred said: I think it was Jim Krueger who came up with the idea that the Skrulls were originally very peaceful, but invasion and subjugation by the Kree caused them to shapeshift psychologically rather than physically into an extremely warlike mindset as a survival response. That is, as far as the Kree / Skrull conflict goes in the comics, the Kree are ultimately their own worst enemy. The victimisation of the Skrulls in the film is very poorly and naively expressed in comparison. Reading this now on the Kindle. Pretty amazing stuff. Ken Aldred 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comicopolis Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Gatsby77 said: Umm...dude? Thank you - I now know I no longer need to even read your thoughts on these movies - because you _clearly_ have no sense of film history. My favorite is still The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly -- specifically for that final Mexican stand-off scene where the camera repeatedly pans among all three of them. Don't forget the great soundtrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted March 18, 2019 Author Share Posted March 18, 2019 Just now, Comicopolis said: Don't forget the great soundtrack. Such sound gold throughout. ComicConnoisseur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRaven Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 42 minutes ago, TwoPiece said: I've never been interested in the western genre (or its sub-genres). How can you be so pretentious as to disregard someone's well-thought out opinions, just because they haven't (or choose not to) watch every movie in history..? I'm also asking questions to expand knowledge - which is better than continuing to be ignorant, right? This post is just all sorts of wrong. I'm under 30 years old. I'm not some curmudgeon that's been around 80 years and is just completely oblivious. Do you also expect high school student to be omni-cinefiles..? I'm very well-educated regarding comic book movies. It's my favorite genre and I watch/re-watch them all the time. I'm not a damn film critic, but I'm a very level comic book movie 'buff'. It's cool with me. Just means you have some great movie watching ahead of you! Get you a bottle of cheap whiskey and a box of cheroots and settle in for the long haul (pancho and cowboy boots optional). theCapraAegagrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 25 minutes ago, ComicConnoisseur said: Reading this now on the Kindle. Pretty amazing stuff. This was the best artwork that Adams did for Marvel IMHO. ComicConnoisseur, mr_highgrade and Mr Sneeze 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Adam Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, RedRaven said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaghetti_Western When I use the term I am referring to ONLY the Sergio Leone films with Clint Eastwood. Understood, but no Spaghetti Western marathon would be complete without watching both Once Upon a Time in the West and My Name is Nobody...both amazing films IMO You can also add Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch to my list! Edited March 18, 2019 by Black_Adam Peckinpah RedRaven and ▫️ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
