Bosco685 Posted March 20, 2019 Author Share Posted March 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, revat said: I would assume if there is a sequel, the sequel will literally be that story. But they should hurry up, Jude Law is aging FAST. Always the challenge with these movies. Shazam is another one that is going to have quite the challenge as the kids become older teenagers in the sequel. Asher Angel is 16 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 1 hour ago, revat said: I would assume if there is a sequel, the sequel will literally be that story. But they should hurry up, Jude Law is aging FAST. Samuel L. Jackson is 70, they made him look like he was 40; they can CGI Jude Law into an infant if they wanted to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 On 3/19/2019 at 5:14 PM, Comicopolis said: How is Thanos powerful enough - without the Gauntlet - to defeat both Thor and Hulk? I don't remember seeing that explained. The first stone Thanos acquired was the Power Stone, making him better than the Hulk at literally the only thing Hulk does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justafan Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 So is Adam Warlock going to play a significant role in this movie or are they just going to sideline his character and pretend that after credit scene from guardians 2 was just a thow away or used for a future guardians movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bane Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 7 hours ago, paperheart said: Samuel L. Jackson is 70, they made him look like he was 40; they can CGI Jude Law into an infant if they wanted to If they can give Ryan Reynolds baby legs they can do anything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 5 hours ago, justafan said: So is Adam Warlock going to play a significant role in this movie or are they just going to sideline his character and pretend that after credit scene from guardians 2 was just a thow away or used for a future guardians movie. I wonder since James Gunn is just getting back into the saddle (and even longer as he has to focus on Suicide Squad right now) if that will further delay seeing Warlock associated with anything within the MCU for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 hours ago, bane said: If they can give Ryan Reynolds baby legs they can do anything! And that hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantastic_four Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 13 hours ago, the blob said: Is Thanos's reign of terror limited to our galaxy? (Wasn't his finger snapping the universe?) Meaning if CM has been off hiding Skrulls a few galaxies away, is it possible that she didn't have dealings with Thanos? Our current estimate for the number of stars in just the Milky Way is between 150 and 250 billion, so she didn't have to travel to another galaxy and still have the overwhelming odds be in favor of her never encountering Thanos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 14 hours ago, Comicopolis said: "Thanos is the most powerful being in the universe!" - Guardians of the Galaxy. That makes perfect sense. That's what was said in the movie... Intentionally... By Marvel Studios... So asking, "how can he beat the Hulk without using any stones?" Well, Marvel told us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantastic_four Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 9 hours ago, Lazyboy said: The first stone Thanos acquired was the Power Stone, making him better than the Hulk at literally the only thing Hulk does. How'd we ALL forget that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, fantastic_four said: Our current estimate for the number of stars in just the Milky Way is between 150 and 250 billion, so she didn't have to travel to another galaxy and still have the overwhelming odds be in favor of her never encountering Thanos. Nothing wrong with assuming the larger space means Thanos and Captain Marvel never happened across one another. It makes sense one would be unaware of the other if we are talking about totally different galaxies. But when you add the Infinity Stones search, are we to assume all 6 of these massively powerful objects were all within the same galaxy when they were created at the beginning of time and therefore Thanos never had to go beyond his known galaxy when initially hunting these down? Yes, by the cinema stories we have been presented where over time we find out each was being maintained by a given character within this space. But realistically, all these stones would have had to be recovered from places beyond the known galaxy. When Thanos talks of Titan, his home planet, rather than the comic book source where it is the moon circling Saturn in the MCU world it is a planet in another solar system. That means these stories are occurring beyond our known galaxy. Ken Aldred 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Thanos did not use the Power Stone in his bout with the Hulk. The directors literally showed you how he activates the Stones throughout the entire movie. He didn't use it in the opening scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 9 hours ago, Lazyboy said: The first stone Thanos acquired was the Power Stone, making him better than the Hulk at literally the only thing Hulk does. There's a solid theory that has been going around for some time now why Thanos went for the Power Stone first. WHY Thanos NEEDED the Power Stone first - Explained Quote "Why didn't Dr. Strange use the Time Stone when they were battling against Thanos? "An answer became clear when I remembered certain key details from the Dr. Strange movie; even with the power to slow, pause, or reverse time we have seen foes with the ability to ignore the Time Stone's effects (Kaecilius and his acolytes)." "I think the Power Stone would have allowed Thanos to do the same; to bypass the power of the Time Stone. "That's why it's the first stone Thanos retrieves. "Not only does the Power Stone allow him to contain, control and amplify the power of the other stones, but also bypass the powers of any stones that could be used against him (in essence, overpowering other stones). Dr. Strange in viewing many alternate futures saw the futility of using the Time stone in their fight and chose to use it differently." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantastic_four Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) Thanos already has the power stone in his glove in the opening scene on the Asgardian ship where he kills Loki and Heimdall and beats the Hulk. He got the Tesseract from Loki, crushes it with his hands, and puts the second stone, the Space stone, into his gauntlet. The Russos said they didn't feel the need to show him acquiring the Power stone because Guardians of the Galaxy covered his search for it. Edited March 21, 2019 by fantastic_four I like pie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Thanos uses the Power Stone in 2 occasions in the opening scene: When he threatens to kill Thor. When he destroys the ship and leaves. At no other point before the title card is the Power Stone used. He beat Hulk with brute strength - not an Infinity Stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, TwoPiece said: Thanos uses the Power Stone in 2 occasions in the opening scene: When he threatens to kill Thor. When he destroys the ship and leaves. At no other point before the title card is the Power Stone used. He beat Hulk with brute strength - not an Infinity Stone. I have to agree with the Power Stone. In his fight with Hulk, Thanos does not activate the stone. He is fighting using his natural Titan physiology and enhancements he applied to himself to be massively powerful. theCapraAegagrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 32 minutes ago, fantastic_four said: Thanos already has the power stone in his glove in the opening scene on the Asgardian ship where he kills Loki and Heimdall and beats the Hulk. He got the Tesseract from Loki, crushes it with his hands, and puts the second stone, the Space stone, into his gauntlet. The Russos said they didn't feel the need to show him acquiring the Power stone because Guardians of the Galaxy covered his search for it. Thanos did not use the Power Stone to fight Hulk. Never even activated it like he demonstrates in other scenes. That is pure Thanos firepower being brought to bear in fighting Hulk. He's that much of a threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantastic_four Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Bosco685 said: I have to agree with the Power Stone. In his fight with Hulk, Thanos does not activate the stone. He is fighting using his natural Titan physiology and enhancements he applied to himself to be massively powerful. The controversial bit is that in the comics it grants the wielder passive abilities that don't require explicit activation of the stones. They never explained it well enough in the films themselves to know if the intent was meant to be different from that. Apparently both the Russos and the screenwriters have said their intent was that he didn't use the stone against the Hulk: https://comicbook.com/marvel/2018/12/02/avengers-infinity-war-how-thanos-beat-hulk/ I haven't seen any comments yet where they address how the comic version endows passive strength, endurance, and power enhancement though, so it's hard to even say if they ever thought about that and intended to change the film version of the stones from that. Edited March 21, 2019 by fantastic_four theCapraAegagrus, bentbryan and I like pie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fantastic_four Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 (edited) Actually I'd say that Guardians of the Galaxy implicitly suggests that the power stone emanates passive power. They say that only extraordinarily strong individuals can possess it, they show it ripping apart the Collector's servant when she grabs it, and they show it dramatically empowering Ronan when he grabs it and sticks it into his hammer. That all implies it's always giving off an aura of power. In Infinity War, we never see the latent energy of the stones like that, just a far more subtle glow when he plugs them into the gauntlet and again when he explicitly activates them. Until I hear different I'm guessing they didn't think about this, but they clearly wanted to establish Thanos as the biggest of the bads so they wanted to depict him beating Hulk with no help. Which is consistent with the comics, usually characters and abilities get refined and further defined when new authors start writing them (McFeely and Markus on Infinity War), or some aspects of a character get overlooked or forgotten about by subsequent authors (McFeely and Markus may have overlooked Gunn and Perlman's intent and that of the comics). Not that big a deal on a fairly subtle point. Edited March 21, 2019 by fantastic_four bentbryan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince Namor Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Thank goodness Thanos isn't a female and did all of this or all hell would've broken loose. Comicopolis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
