Color touch noted on blue label?

[Foley]

Has anyone ever seen this before? A universal label with a remark indicating a "very minor amount of color touch on cover?"

 

Just curious as I've never come across this and assumed that all color touch, however minor, leads to a PLOD.

 

http://comiclink.com/itemdetail.asp?back=%2Fsearch%2Easp%3Fwhere%3Dsell%26title%3Dmarvel%2Bmystery%26ItemType%3DCB&id=1091871

[topofthetotem]

I do believe the Church copy of more fun 52 has small amount of glue notation on a blue label but I could be wrong.

 

Personally for color touch its either restoration or it isn't. I don't get theses types of designations all they do is dilute the cgc name as the #1 grader in our hobby and make me think who submitted it and would I be afforded that same kindness.

[Foley]

I agree, it should be a black or white issue

[Tbone911t]

Should be purple....

[porcupine48]

I do believe the Church copy of more fun 52 has small amount of glue notation on a blue label but I could be wrong.

 

Personally for color touch its either restoration or it isn't. I don't get theses types of designations all they do is dilute the cgc name as the #1 grader in our hobby and make me think who submitted it and would I be afforded that same kindness.

You're right on the more fun..

Same with the Larsen...Larsen erased,not noted even.

[topofthetotem]

I do believe the Church copy of more fun 52 has small amount of glue notation on a blue label but I could be wrong.

 

Personally for color touch its either restoration or it isn't. I don't get theses types of designations all they do is dilute the cgc name as the #1 grader in our hobby and make me think who submitted it and would I be afforded that same kindness.

You're right on the more fun..

Same with the Larsen...Larsen erased,not noted even.

I didn't know that here's a scan of the Larson.

[Sqeggs]

Has anyone ever seen this before? A universal label with a remark indicating a "very minor amount of color touch on cover?"

 

Just curious as I've never come across this and assumed that all color touch, however minor, leads to a PLOD.

 

http://comiclink.com/itemdetail.asp?back=%2Fsearch%2Easp%3Fwhere%3Dsell%26title%3Dmarvel%2Bmystery%26ItemType%3DCB&id=1091871

 

There are many, many GA books with that notation or a notation of "minor amount of glue on spine."

[Sqeggs]

The back story is that a lot of high-priced Church and other pedigree books had had a bit of color touch or a spine split sealed with a spot of glue. When CGC was starting up, some prominent dealers and collectors made it clear that putting these books in restored slabs was a non-starter for them.

 

Once CGC allowed those books to have blue labels, they pretty much had to extend the policy to other GA books, which they did.

[topofthetotem]

If that's the case then I don't see why anyone would trust cgc from this point unless it's as a tool to move inventory.

[porcupine48]

More here...also shows Bedrock Mystic with http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=9338423&fpart=1

 

[Sqeggs]

If that's the case then I don't see why anyone would trust cgc from this point unless it's as a tool to move inventory.

 

Well, they have had this policy from the day they opened their doors ....

[porcupine48]

Odd,you can't see it on the older holder...the use in fun shows it in link

[Sqeggs]

Odd,you can't see it on the older holder...the use in fun shows it in link

 

Can't see what?

[topofthetotem]

If that's the case then I don't see why anyone would trust cgc from this point unless it's as a tool to move inventory.

 

Well, they have had this policy from the day they opened their doors ....

Truthfully I didn't know that, and I'm sure there are many more like me.

 

It comes down to who is submitting and not what is being submitted. It's too bad.

[topofthetotem]

Odd,you can't see it on the older holder...the use in fun shows it in link

I think it washed out due to flash the more fun looks exceptionally white compared to other areas of the cover.

[porcupine48]

Odd,you can't see it on the older holder...the use in fun shows it in link

 

Can't see what?

The slight lamont indent still there.

[Foley]

The back story is that a lot of high-priced Church and other pedigree books had had a bit of color touch or a spine split sealed with a spot of glue. When CGC was starting up, some prominent dealers and collectors made it clear that putting these books in restored slabs was a non-starter for them.

 

Once CGC allowed those books to have blue labels, they pretty much had to extend the policy to other GA books, which they did.

 

Ah, thanks Sqeggs, I learned something new today. Interesting back story, but it makes me wonder if graders have a clearly defined guideline regarding where the threshold is between what warrants a blue label with remark or a purple with slight restoration?

[Michelangelo]

I agree, it should be a black or white issue

 

but tape added to cover can swing either way (blue or purple) depending on whether it's restorative... same should apply here.

 

what if someone scribbled a blue marker on a blue background.... was it meant to touch up a colour break? or was it a scribble?

[Artboy99]

The back story is that a lot of high-priced Church and other pedigree books had had a bit of color touch or a spine split sealed with a spot of glue. When CGC was starting up, some prominent dealers and collectors made it clear that putting these books in restored slabs was a non-starter for them.

 

Once CGC allowed those books to have blue labels, they pretty much had to extend the policy to other GA books, which they did.

 

Ah, thanks Sqeggs, I learned something new today. Interesting back story, but it makes me wonder if graders have a clearly defined guideline regarding where the threshold is between what warrants a blue label with remark or a purple with slight restoration?

 

My understanding is that if the color touch is a small mark that appears to be on the book for no other reason than it just being a mark on the book then it is blue label and the color touch is considered a small defect.

 

if the color touch is apparent that it was done in an attempt to improve the appearance of the book then it gets a purple label.

[BradleyX2]

Has anyone ever seen this before? A universal label with a remark indicating a "very minor amount of color touch on cover?"

 

Just curious as I've never come across this and assumed that all color touch, however minor, leads to a PLOD.

 

http://comiclink.com/itemdetail.asp?back=%2Fsearch%2Easp%3Fwhere%3Dsell%26title%3Dmarvel%2Bmystery%26ItemType%3DCB&id=1091871

 

 

 

Since CGC opened its doors in 2000, it has had the policy that, at CGC's sole discretion, a book from 1950 or before with an extremely small amount of color touch or glue (e.g. one or two dots) can still get a Blue Universal label. HOWEVER, any color touch or glue detected will still be disclosed on the label, regardless of color.