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Record Magazine Prices - Throw out your Overstreet Guide!
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7 hours ago, Randall Dowling said:

We will not go into the hijinx that Heritage and a few other auction companies get up to on a regular basis.  Let's just say that things are not exactly as they seem and occasionally, the house decides they want something for the purposes of reselling in the next auction and are active bidders as well.  And they can see everyone's bids.  When I was still bidding on Heritage stuff, I had the unpleasant experience of having my bids maxed out many, many times...

With this said...this has been my observation. If I set and let a bid... it ALMOST ALWAYS gets met or exceeded irregardless of platform. Heritage or ComicLink. Now with that said that doesn't mean the house is being shady. But I do believe that people get competitive and inch that needle up and up and up looking for the threshold. 

 

When I "snipe" meaning wait around for the auction to tick tock...Then strike with full payload I find some times I'm getting books for 10-40% below my Max... :preach:

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1 hour ago, bounty_coder said:

With this said...this has been my observation. If I set and let a bid... it ALMOST ALWAYS gets met or exceeded irregardless of platform. Heritage or ComicLink. Now with that said that doesn't mean the house is being shady. But I do believe that people get competitive and inch that needle up and up and up looking for the threshold. 

 

When I "snipe" meaning wait around for the auction to tick tock...Then strike with full payload I find some times I'm getting books for 10-40% below my Max... :preach:

I'm sure there's some of that.  But I'm talking about putting in strong close out bids and almost every time, the got maxed but not exceeded.  Same thing happened with another smaller auction site that was well known for his misdeeds.  The other thing you'll see is items that are going cheap, you'll snipe them at the end, and get outbid somehow.  And then two weeks later, the same items are for sale again.  Must have been dozens of lots like that, just kept showing up over and over but looking like they got sold each time.

I don't believe any of these guys will take up ethical behavior until it starts hurting their bottom line.  So, I no longer bid at Heritage or Comiclink.  The one big auction house I haven't ever had that happen (and I've gotten some very good deals) is ComicConnect.  So I give them my business now.  I know some have their issues with Metropolis and their grading, etc.  But I've always just accepted that is how they grade and bid accordingly.  2c

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23 hours ago, Randall Dowling said:

We will not go into the hijinx that Heritage and a few other auction companies get up to on a regular basis.  Let's just say that things are not exactly as they seem and occasionally, the house decides they want something for the purposes of reselling in the next auction and are active bidders as well.  And they can see everyone's bids.  When I was still bidding on Heritage stuff, I had the unpleasant experience of having my bids maxed out many, many times...

Hmmmmm.....  hm

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13 hours ago, Randall Dowling said:

I'm sure there's some of that.  But I'm talking about putting in strong close out bids and almost every time, the got maxed but not exceeded.  Same thing happened with another smaller auction site that was well known for his misdeeds.  The other thing you'll see is items that are going cheap, you'll snipe them at the end, and get outbid somehow.  And then two weeks later, the same items are for sale again.  Must have been dozens of lots like that, just kept showing up over and over but looking like they got sold each time.

I don't believe any of these guys will take up ethical behavior until it starts hurting their bottom line.  So, I no longer bid at Heritage or Comiclink.  The one big auction house I haven't ever had that happen (and I've gotten some very good deals) is ComicConnect.  So I give them my business now.  I know some have their issues with Metropolis and their grading, etc.  But I've always just accepted that is how they grade and bid accordingly.  2c

Methinks the rot hath set in...

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9 hours ago, Randall Dowling said:

This one slipped past me but it's worth documenting.  Not sure, but I think the whole mycomicshop under grading phenomena doesn't apply to CGC books... :insane:

 

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My sense of it is that the White Mountain pedigree drove up the price of this copy. An attractive 9.0...

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19 hours ago, Randall Dowling said:

This one slipped past me but it's worth documenting.  Not sure, but I think the whole mycomicshop under grading phenomena doesn't apply to CGC books... :insane:

 

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9 hours ago, The Lions Den said:

My sense of it is that the White Mountain pedigree drove up the price of this copy. An attractive 9.0...

Yes,yes,yes! I have a number of White Mountain peds in both comics and magazines and it just doesn’t get any better than a White Mountain with white pages. It’s one of the peds I have with a built in premium well over what I might normally spend when bidding although I kind of reserve this ped to special issues (to me) that I want. I also like the fact this ped can be enjoyed with 1950’s horror comics and 1970’s Warren mags. Nice bridge to two of my favorite genres/eras. That price for a Vampi #1 is worth it.

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On 8/19/2020 at 10:53 AM, bounty_coder said:

Some real solid hammers on these raw Eerie Publications. 

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Let's hope that isn't reflected in your October sales thread this year :baiting: lol
But really I would have to guess we're seeing these high VF prices because people are frustrated they just can't find nicer copies.  Maybe some of the people who spend more time browsing in the mags forum can speculate but my guess is the VF/NM or better ones just don't get circulated among collectors anymore, they seem to be stashed away in collections and never brought up for sale.

 

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On 9/15/2020 at 10:12 AM, 90sChild said:

Let's hope that isn't reflected in your October sales thread this year :baiting: lol
But really I would have to guess we're seeing these high VF prices because people are frustrated they just can't find nicer copies.  Maybe some of the people who spend more time browsing in the mags forum can speculate but my guess is the VF/NM or better ones just don't get circulated among collectors anymore, they seem to be stashed away in collections and never brought up for sale.

 

For the most part...

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I thought I'd share a couple of things with you guys.  First, I just got my copy of the 50th Overstreet.  I haven't bought one for 5 or 6 years but thought it might be useful as a baseline for most magazines.  Boy was I wrong!  I honestly feel that the guide is no longer relevant except for maybe some publication information but even that is just meh.  Prices are completely disconnected from actual selling prices on eBay, at conventions, auction houses, etc.  2c

Second, I've been collecting these men's adventure magazines for a while.  For the last few weeks, I've been watching the same seller sell a bunch on eBay and they have officially blown up.  A year ago, most of these were findable for $100 or less.  Now... well take a look.  This is just a small sampling of a huge number that all sold for similar prices.  Makes Warrens, Skywalds and all other comic mags look cheap by comparison.  And for the record, none of these are the really big keys for this genre.  These are just typical issues in the runs of these titles.

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