Illustration auction @HA 0

[Bronty]

Thoughts?

 

notable so far include

 

ET movie poster 394k

 

Frazetta red planet 346k (boy I didn't think much of this one, seems high )

 

Elvgren, various, all between 30k and 40k

 

Crumb 32,500

 

 

[Eric Seffinga]

I'm with you on the Red Planet piece, actually.

 

[tth2]

Frazetta red planet 346k (boy I didn't think much of this one, seems high )

While we had a raging debate on these boards a few months ago as to what was a top tier Frazetta, it's safe to say this definitely is not one of them.

 

Shows there's very strong demand for his work, even his lesser pieces.

[Bronty]

I guess? Feels like double FMV.

 

I hard a hard time reconciling private sales not flying off the shelf... richard getting that spiderman for 175 or whatever it was... and this going for 350.

 

Not calling shenanigans necessarily, just... difficult to reconcile.

[Mmehdy]

 

Strong prices considering the lack of quality material. Ha.com got a bit greedy with its 25% BP but they knew the material was going to come down both quality and quantity. The illustration dealers, like grapefruitmoon gallery, get the best and amazing stuff. Ha.com is getting the lower Elvgrens and other less desirable paintings.

What amazes me is they get almost 2 million for what...300+ pieces ...not bad .

 

 

Edited October 13, 2016 by Mmehdy

[J.Sid]

Whoops, I had meant to bid on something* in this auction

 

 

 

 

 

*not the Frazetta or the ET paintings

[tth2]

I guess? Feels like double FMV.

Don't get me wrong, I definitely wouldn't have paid anything close to this price for this piece.

 

I hard a hard time reconciling private sales not flying off the shelf... richard getting that spiderman for 175 or whatever it was... and this going for 350.

For the price that this piece went at, I would take Spider Man over it all day every day.

[buyatari]

What Spiderman are you guys talking about?

[Eric Seffinga]

[Hekla]

John Berkey Defenders took a tumble since being sold last year.

 

Berkey Defenders Oct. 2016

 

Berkey Defenders Oct. 2015

 

Full disclosure: I was the underbidder yesterday, but bowed out to chase another piece.

[Bronty]

John Berkey Defenders took a tumble since being sold last year.

 

Berkey Defenders Oct. 2016

 

Berkey Defenders Oct. 2015

 

Full disclosure: I was the underbidder yesterday, but bowed out to chase another piece.

 

Ouch that smarts. with auction fees that's probably a 70% loss.

 

Most Berkey pieces go for 3-4k from what I remember. Seems like a nice one so I understand the 5k from last year, but... I guess the bidders didn't materialize this time.

 

[Bronty]

does anyone know why both of those listings say "from the Frank Collection"? Presumably it was only from their collection in 2015 unless there was a non paying bidder. In 2016 there should have been a new owner?

[Panelfan1]

I am not 100% sure (so folks out there that know more can correct me) but I think its just a matter of pedigree. Like from 'mile high collection' in comics.

[Bronty]

thanks. I know what you mean; that crossed my mind, but I was under the opposite impression . Hmm.

[vodou]

Maybe just laziness on the relist c/p, somebody at HA forgot to delete that line?

 

I plum forgot about this sale. Lots of nice stuff though. Prices across the board middling to low. I wonder if others forgot too? That Karel Thole that went for $500...somebody got that cheap. Haven't seen anything published for less than $1k for many years.

 

My own apathy on the Thole and the sale surprises me, I should be mad I missed it. Haven't forgotten an illustration sale, ever, since they broke them out from comics. And before that never either, as I often did more spending on illustration than comic art in the comic art category! There really is just too much quality art on perma-offer every few weeks from one House or another. This is not supply overwhelming demand, it's saturation.

[Bronty]

Maybe just laziness on the relist c/p, somebody at HA forgot to delete that line?

 

 

Yeah I would think that might be the most likely explanation. It would make sense.

[Bronty]

Maybe just laziness on the relist c/p, somebody at HA forgot to delete that line?

 

I plum forgot about this sale. Lots of nice stuff though. Prices across the board middling to low. I wonder if others forgot too? That Karel Thole that went for $500...somebody got that cheap. Haven't seen anything published for less than $1k for many years.

 

My own apathy on the Thole and the sale surprises me, I should be mad I missed it. Haven't forgotten an illustration sale, ever, since they broke them out from comics. And before that never either, as I often did more spending on illustration than comic art in the comic art category! There really is just too much quality art on perma-offer every few weeks from one House or another. This is not supply overwhelming demand, it's saturation.

 

I know what you mean. I missed most of it too and apart from 5 seconds of being sorry I missed the fireworks on the ET poster art, I found myself not caring either. Lots of great pieces, but as you say, there will be more again soon.

[pinupcartooncollector]

Two Elvgren lots passed today, including one at $50k below the price it sold for a few years ago. 

[vodou]

3 minutes ago, pinupcartooncollector said:

Two Elvgren lots passed today, including one at $50k below the price it sold for a few years ago. 

That's really something else. That cheap Loomis can't seem to find a home that will love it either.

[cstojano]

I have no business replying because I have no real history with this material, so in that sense I have no real sense of the historical place of much of this material. BUT the Elvgren and Nagel pieces do nothing for me. That McGinnis Casino Royale piece, on the other hand, stopped me in my tracks and I have no interest in James Bond as a property.