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Marvel October 1999 ~ February 2000 US Newsstand Price Variants
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Quite amusing really isn't it - the regular edition turns out to be harder to find than the bloody variants...

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OK the time has come to try to get a full set. I need these:

Amazing Spider-Man 10 $2.29, 13 $2.29
Cable 72 $2.29, 72 $2.49, 73 $2.29, 74 $2.29
Fantastic Four 23 $2.29, 24 $2.29
Hulk 8 $2.29, 10 $2.49
Thor 17 $2.29, 19 $2.29, 19 $2.49
X-Men 93 $2.29, 95 $2.29

I have the following to trade:

Amazing Spider-Man 10 $2.49, 11 $2.49
Cable 73 $2.49
Fantastic Four 23 $2.49, 26 $2.49
Incredible Hulk 8 $2.49
Thor 18 $2.49
X-Men 93 $2.49, 95 $2,49, 96 $2.49

Lets see if we can help each other out here! Mine are all high grade copies.

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On 11/13/2019 at 12:12 PM, masterlogan2000 said:

Yeah, I track the X-Men's and Hulk 8 everyday.  I have multiples of many, but the only one I'm missing is the #96 $2.49 variant.  I've only ever seen one listed on eBay, and YOU swooped in and grabbed it before I even thought to message the seller.  :pullhair:

:foryou:

With that said, I have multiple copies of a couple of these, so I'm always open to a trade if anyone has that X-Men book and is willing to part with it.

@masterlogan2000 see above.

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@FlyingDonut

I just completed my set of X-Men and Hulk #8 the other day after finding an X-Men #96 ($2.49) on eBay.  Of the rest of this collection, it looks like I only have an extra copy of the X-Men #95 ($2.29).

I randomly have a copy of Cable #72 ($2.29) stored in a box somewhere in my basement.  I have no idea where I got it.  I have no idea where it's currently buried.  I'll take a look tonight for it.

Send me a PM with your address.  I'll send you over the X-Men #95 ($2.29) and Cable #72 ($2.29) for free sometime later this week.

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13 hours ago, FlyingDonut said:

OK the time has come to try to get a full set. I need these:

Amazing Spider-Man 10 $2.29, 13 $2.29
Cable 72 $2.29, 72 $2.49, 73 $2.29, 74 $2.29
Fantastic Four 23 $2.29, 24 $2.29
Hulk 8 $2.29, 10 $2.49
Thor 17 $2.29, 19 $2.29, 19 $2.49
X-Men 93 $2.29, 95 $2.29

Same here FD, send me your address and I'll send you this one free

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:bump:

Still looking to complete a set. I need the following:

Amazing Spider-Man 10 $2.29, 13 $2.29
Cable 72 $2.49, 73 $2.29, 74 $2.29
Fantastic Four 23 $2.29, 24 $2.29
Hulk 8 $2.29, 10 $2.49
Thor 19 $2.29, 19 $2.49
X-Men 93 $2.29

I have the following to trade (ones with asterisks I have multiple copies)
Amazing Spider-Man 10 $2.49, 11 $2.49*, 13 $2.49*
Cable 73 $2.49
Fantastic Four 23 $2.49*, 26 $2.49
Incredible Hulk 8 $2.49*
Thor 18 $2.49
X-Men 93 $2.49*, 95 $2,49, 96 $2.49 

Lets see if we can help each other out here! Mine are all high grade copies.

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On 4/13/2020 at 10:27 PM, FlyingDonut said:

OK the time has come to try to get a full set. I need these:

Amazing Spider-Man 10 $2.29, 13 $2.29
Cable 72 $2.29, 72 $2.49, 73 $2.29, 74 $2.29
Fantastic Four 23 $2.29, 24 $2.29
Hulk 8 $2.29, 10 $2.49
Thor 17 $2.29, 19 $2.29, 19 $2.49
X-Men 93 $2.29, 95 $2.29

I have the following to trade:

Amazing Spider-Man 10 $2.49, 11 $2.49
Cable 73 $2.49
Fantastic Four 23 $2.49, 26 $2.49
Incredible Hulk 8 $2.49
Thor 18 $2.49
X-Men 93 $2.49, 95 $2,49, 96 $2.49

Lets see if we can help each other out here! Mine are all high grade copies.

Not sure if this is the variant or not???

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Evening :)

No new sightings from me I'm afraid but I did add the 'on sale' dates from Mike's Comic Newsstand to my summary table the other month to see if they had any bearing on the 'missing' issues:

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Hopefully you can see that more clearly if you click and zoom in.

When these $2.29 / $2.49 variant books were solicited the starting point could have been cover month driven or perhaps a simple date in the diary from which the printers would have selected and produced the variants for the requested titles. If we look at the October 1999 cover dated books we can see that there are three 'on sale' dates as follows:

  • 4th August
  • 11th August
  • 18th August

So let's just speculate for a moment that the variant production starting point was date driven and, for the sake of argument, that the printing dates mirrored the on sale date sequence.  Being the two 4th of August books, you can see how Thor and the FF might have preceded the cut which would explain their non-appearance to date. For the second date, we can see both ASM and Cable have at least one variant, indicating that their printing date was after the variant production start date. And then the Hulk and X-Men follow on the third date, the X-Men with a full set but with no Hulk copies. 

For the date driven approach to make sense, all the books with a production date after the variant start date would have to have been made. The fact that some of them have yet to appear however means that either their production wasn't date driven or that the missing issues exist and have yet to be found. Consequently, the two October Hulks and the $2.49 Cable may yet surface. Alternatively, dates may have nothing to do with it whatsoever and they may have just thrown darts at a board with pictures on them to determine the 32 known variants we've captured to date.

A similar scenario can be argued for the final month too, if you look - The FF snuck in with a date of the 1st of December but we can see no such copies for Thor, also the 1st. 

Did any of that make sense? Probably not. But it was worth posting if only to bump the thread and increase the chances of someone new chipping in.

My gut still tells me that there will be no more though. Probably...

 

 

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37 minutes ago, paqart said:

Just got the Thor 19 $1.99 version. Strangely, a bit happier about that than the two Spider-mans I got at the same time.

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Nice. It's certainly the harder of the three to find. Amazing how long it took to surface really.

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1 minute ago, Get Marwood & I said:

Nice. It's certainly the harder of the three to find. Amazing how long it took to surface really.

I wonder why. I thought maybe it had a lower print run because it has a fill-in artist but according to Comichron, the print run is similar to issues on either side (about 55,000). 
I also wonder why all of these price variants seem to be about equally rare, regardless of print run. The only reason I have this impression is that the X-Men group had much higher print runs than the rest but are not easier to find (110,000/X-Men, 60,000/ASM, 60,000 FF, 55,000/Thor, 45,000/Hulk, 42,500/Cable).

To date, I have six of the ASMs, all $2.49 or $1.99 prices, one of the Cables ($2.49), one X-Men ($2.49), and this Thor.

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14 minutes ago, paqart said:

I wonder why. I thought maybe it had a lower print run because it has a fill-in artist but according to Comichron, the print run is similar to issues on either side (about 55,000). 
I also wonder why all of these price variants seem to be about equally rare, regardless of print run. The only reason I have this impression is that the X-Men group had much higher print runs than the rest but are not easier to find (110,000/X-Men, 60,000/ASM, 60,000 FF, 55,000/Thor, 45,000/Hulk, 42,500/Cable).

To date, I have six of the ASMs, all $2.49 or $1.99 prices, one of the Cables ($2.49), one X-Men ($2.49), and this Thor.

I always found the ASMs easier to find myself back in the day and could have put a set together several times over. The table I populate here however has been in the making for quite some time and, even with the increased awareness generated by this thread, we still can't say for sure what exists within the cover date time frame and whether the gaps are absent by design or just missing in action. Overall, these are very uncommon books. 

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7 minutes ago, Get Marwood & I said:

I always found the ASMs easier to find myself back in the day and could have put a set together several times over. The table I populate here however has been in the making for quite some time and, even with the increased awareness generated by this thread, we still can't say for sure what exists within the cover date time frame and whether the gaps are absent by design or just missing in action. Overall, these are very uncommon books. 

My impression is that they are less common than the 35 cent Marvel price variants from the 1970's, same for the 30-cent variants. The reason is that, if I want any of those, I just have to type it in my search bar and I'll find one or more available to buy. The prices are high for those but they are available. This group from 1999/2000 requires a lot of looking to find them. The non-variant versions, meanwhile, are plentiful.

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