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X-MEN: DARK PHOENIX directed by Simon Kinberg (11/2/18)
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8 hours ago, Jaydogrules said:

It's typically a *minimum* of $100MM on P&A for any wide release tentpole.  

-J.

Yes.

And all of that P&A is accounted for in post-theatrical revenue (i.e., ancillaries, video and streaming sales).

Example (from Deadline): https://deadline.com/2019/04/avengers-infinity-war-profit-box-office-2018-1202591380/

Avengers: Infinity War

Net Production Cost: $325 million

Global P&A: $150 million

On the revenue side,

"Global TV net" profits: $170 million -- more than enough to cover P&A, and that's just profit from post-theatrical TV licensing.

That's not even including an additional $231 million from "Worldwide Home Entertainment" (i.e., DVD sales).

 

 

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1 hour ago, Gatsby77 said:

That's not even including an additional $231 million from "Worldwide Home Entertainment" (i.e., DVD sales).

Which to make cost $78M in home theater production costs. Though to make 2.96X your costs ain't bad.

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On 6/8/2019 at 12:41 PM, @therealsilvermane said:

But maybe in addition to dead characters not staying dead, perhaps the Dark Phoenix Saga is just too depressing a tale for modern times? I mean, the big finale for the original comic story was that Jean Grey couldn't exorcise the demon within her, so she kills herself. That's a very 70's-80's way of solving things. In the old days, if doctors couldn't fix your mental ills, you got locked away in an asylum. Nowadays, there's a cure or a pill for everything. And maybe super-hero blockbusters should be a little more upbeat, have a little hope. T:here's nothing hopeful about the original Dark Phoenix Saga. Jean Grey must die. That was the only solution. It's a dated story.

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Oh brother.

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Recently, The Hollywood Reporter did a breakdown of what went wrong with Dark Phoenix, and it was there the trade said Dark Phoenix pushed its former February release date to June to appease anime’s own Alita.

 

“Insiders tell THR that the move was to placate James Cameron, Fox’s most important filmmaker, and his concerns for his movie, Alita: Battle Angel. According to one source, Cameron felt Alitawould lose horribly when facing a December opening weekend that included Aquaman and Bumblebee, with Mary Poppins Returns opening up two days earlier,” THR reports.

 

Continuing, the piece says Cameron was Alita: Battle Angel to shift its release date to February since it was less competitive. The only issue was that Dark Phoenix would be stealing some promo time during that window, and Cameron pushed for Alita to take the February slot while X-Men went to the summer.

 

“[Producers] Emma, Hutch, and Simon begged her [Stacy Snider] not [to] do it.”

 

There is no telling how Dark Phoenix may have fared if it has kept its February release, but Alita: Battle Angel did have more run time to gross big thanks to its move. Its opening weekend hauled in about $33.5 million domestically, and its worldwide total rests at $404 million.

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9 minutes ago, AnthonyTheAbyss said:

:facepalm:..."There is no telling how Dark Phoenix may have fared if it has kept its February release".

 

A sucky movie will still suck no matter when it is released.

It didn't suck. So your point would be spot-on if it did.

At this point, the MCU and Disney just need to wrap this up, and move on. Including with The New Mutants.

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1 hour ago, Bosco685 said:

It didn't suck. So your point would be spot-on if it did.

At this point, the MCU and Disney just need to wrap this up, and move on. Including with The New Mutants.

22% on RT would speak otherwise.  

I'm glad you liked it, but you are in a small minority when it comes to Dark Phoenix.  

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34 minutes ago, Broke as a Joke said:

22% on RT would speak otherwise.  

I'm glad you liked it, but you are in a small minority when it comes to Dark Phoenix.  

Take a peek to the right of the number you focused on.

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Not as small as you think. The film in no way will be considered a classic, the best, or any other award-winning title like that. But it sure was not trash. Drop the hate, and do more reading.

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Although it is sad the franchise has come to this, and is not pleasing more people, when comparing Dark Phoenix to a total trash film you can see the statistical differences from users. Though there are still many more people to provide their review since one film has 23K users, and the other 140K.

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Where F4 ended as a median of 4.0, right now DP is sitting at a 6.0 - low but still not trash. Unfortunately, those that haven't even seen the film yet want to join in the Hate Rally because - well - they find it fun. Not that Fox helped itself much near the end.

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24 minutes ago, TeddieMercede said:

Wasn’t that bad. Apocalypse was a hell of a lot worse.

:whatthe:

How dare you! :baiting:

Although not perfect, it does a decent job in giving equal screen time to many characters allowing them to contribute to the story. And it would seem more than a few people think this. Unfortunately, not enough to deliver the financial results needed.

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