Can This ASM #1 Be Restored? (And Should It?) 0

[KEY ISSUES Comics]

Hello all,

I'm hoping those of you more knowledgeable in the ways of restoration can direct me on the right course of action. 

Pictured below is a rather solid copy of ASM #1 belonging to a friend of mine. He is considering selling it--and the rest of his collection--in order to purchase something else. Sadly, there is a "To Eric" within a speech bubble. My friend's name is Eric. He worked with Stan at a con several years ago, which is when Stan signed it and wrote "To Eric." Eric was not exactly pleased. He had not asked Stan to add that 'bonus' scribble. Needless to say it has affected the book's value and desirability to those not named "Eric." Therefore, I suggested to my friend to have it restored by removing the "To Eric" and speech bubble, as well as having the autograph authenticated and then grading it. (Does CGC authenticate signatures without a witness?). So, my restoration questions are as follows:

• First, can it be removed?
• If so, what degree of restoration will it be assigned? (i.e.) SP, MA, etc.

This is a pretty nice copy that cost my friend what is to him, a sizeable sum of money, which he would like to now invest elsewhere. It's therefore important to choose the course of action that will allow him to get the best return.

Thanks in advance!

Edited February 11, 2017 by KEY ISSUES Comics

[VegasJeff]

Based on my intermediate knowledge and research, I'm not aware of any way to remove black marker from paper. There could be the possibility of coloring over it but not sure how well that would work considering how intricate the artwork is in that area. Would need someone who is an expert in this area to chime in. Maybe better to just take the hit as it currently is and sell the book in its current state. 

[Hero Restoration]

Yeah, that cannot be removed, only covered up. I wouldn't recommend restoration, the book looks higher than a 3.0 (much higher really), which will make it worth more unrestored.

CGC will not verify the signature, you would have to send it to the other place for that.

Edited February 12, 2017 by MastrCntrlProgram

[KEY ISSUES Comics]

Thanks for the input gang. That was my fear; covering it up would likely look bad. Fortunately, IMHO, the placement of the "To Eric" isn't that bad. It would have been much worse had it been placed over one of the characters or the text.

As for the signature verification, I shall look elsewhere then. I was hoping CGC could do it.

And yes, the book looks MUCH nicer than 3.0. I'd give it a solid 5.0. The main problems from what I recall are foxing along the top of the FC and a crease on the BC that would be 'fixed' by pressing.

Any other input regarding what resto could do, if anything, before I inform my friend?

Thanks. 

Edited February 12, 2017 by KEY ISSUES Comics

[Hero Restoration]

3 hours ago, KEY ISSUES Comics said:

Thanks for the input gang. That was my fear; covering it up would likely look bad. Fortunately, IMHO, the placement of the "To Eric" isn't that bad. It would have been much worse had it been placed over one of the characters or the text.

As for the signature verification, I shall look elsewhere then. I was hoping CGC could do it.

And yes, the book looks MUCH nicer than 3.0. I'd give it a solid 5.0. The main problems from what I recall are foxing along the top of the FC and a crease on the BC that would be 'fixed' by pressing.

Any other input regarding what resto could do, if anything, before I inform my friend?

Thanks. 

Nope, that's it, press and submit.

[thehumantorch]

4 minutes ago, MastrCntrlProgram said:

Nope, that's it, press and submit.

Agreed

[Sqeggs]

5 hours ago, KEY ISSUES Comics said:

Thanks for the input gang. That was my fear; covering it up would likely look bad. Fortunately, IMHO, the placement of the "To Eric" isn't that bad. It would have been much worse had it been placed over one of the characters or the text.

As for the signature verification, I shall look elsewhere then. I was hoping CGC could do it.

And yes, the book looks MUCH nicer than 3.0. I'd give it a solid 5.0. The main problems from what I recall are foxing along the top of the FC and a crease on the BC that would be 'fixed' by pressing.

Any other input regarding what resto could do, if anything, before I inform my friend?

Thanks. 

CBCS will likely authenticate the signature for you, but their books typically receive lower prices than CGC books with comparable grades. Your friend is better off sticking with CGC on this book, imo.

Edited February 12, 2017 by Sqeggs
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[KEY ISSUES Comics]

Well here's a question for CGC. Would you recognize and accept a CBCS book with a verified signature and label it yellow if submitted for grading?

[Sqeggs]

22 minutes ago, KEY ISSUES Comics said:

Well here's a question for CGC. Would you recognize and accept a CBCS book with a verified signature and label it yellow if submitted for grading?

You won't get a response from CGC in this thread, but the answer is pretty clearly "no."

[comicquant]

If i owned the book I would reluctantly employ CBCS do their signature/grading service and unload it.  Having it authenticated would probably net him more than just slabbing with a "doodle" on the front cover.  Personally, I would never buy a book graded by cbcs but there are certainly those who will.

Edited February 13, 2017 by comicquant

[Gotham Kid]

CBCS is a f**king joke. Send it to CGC and have it listed on ComicLink. I'm sure there are plenty comic collectors called Eric.

Edited February 13, 2017 by Gotham Kid

[Comicdey]

I'd say if he wants to sell it.  Slab it as is.   There are a ton of people named Erik ? Eric ? Aric?

[comicquant]

5 hours ago, Gotham Kid said:

CBCS is a f**king joke. Send it to CGC and have it listed on ComicLink. I'm sure there are plenty comic collectors called Eric.

So, to be clear...  Are you saying you would NOT use CBCS?  

[KEY ISSUES Comics]

Thanks gang. Decisions, decisions... Go straight to CGC, which is where I get all of my comics graded, and a get a green label, or go elsewhere and possibly get the sig verified but deal with the consequences of a grading service with a lesser reputation?

[Stronguy]

You could just turn that speech bubble into a giant spider (or roach) and everyone would think it was just Stan up to his old tricks.

[W16227]

54 minutes ago, Stronguy said:

You could just turn that speech bubble into a giant spider (or roach) and everyone would think it was just Stan up to his old tricks.

Might be able to get this to work.....

 

 

 

Edited February 13, 2017 by W16227

[Gotham Kid]

7 hours ago, KEY ISSUES Comics said:

Go straight to CGC, which is where I get all of my comics graded, and a get a green label

Who says you're gonna get a green label !? It'll be blue.

Edited February 13, 2017 by Gotham Kid

[thehumantorch]

8 hours ago, KEY ISSUES Comics said:

Thanks gang. Decisions, decisions... Go straight to CGC, which is where I get all of my comics graded, and a get a green label, or go elsewhere and possibly get the sig verified but deal with the consequences of a grading service with a lesser reputation?

I'm a CGC guy but in this case I'd submit it to the other company in a heartbeat.

[KEY ISSUES Comics]

1 hour ago, Gotham Kid said:

Who says you're gonna get a green label !? It'll be blue.

Green for the "remarked" since the signature and "To Eric" cannot be verified. Please correct me if I am wrong because this has changed. I've received green labels in the past for unverified signatures.

[Gotham Kid]

4 hours ago, KEY ISSUES Comics said:

Green for the "remarked" since the signature and "To Eric" cannot be verified. Please correct me if I am wrong because this has changed. I've received green labels in the past for unverified signatures.

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