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[Redshade]

On 1/9/2018 at 7:09 AM, Aman619 said:

That’s the 64 thousand dollar question, and the the answer is somewhat in flux.  To date pence copies and all foreign editions were lumped together, because the understanding was that they were all printed overseas, at a later time from the US editions.

but it’s feeling like many if not all the pence versions may have actually been printed on the same presses as the US editions, and, possibly only hours later. Should this be the case, or, should collectors now - for whatever reason - consider them on a par with the US editions, their values may increase dramatically.

If you look in the Grand Comics Database for instance for Amazing Spider-Man 45 you will see that the US and UK variants are side by side in the US section. These have the same publisher/printer indicia and ads for US goods EXACTLY as the US issue because they were published/printed in the US at the same time..

 

 

All others are reprints and are listed as such in the foreign section and will have a DIFFERENT publisher and printer as well as ads for the country in which the comic was reprinted. The layouts and titles will also be noticeably different. This is as true for foreign language reprints as it is for English language reprints :

Sometimes the artwork may even be altered in foreign reprints :

 

Hope this helps.

 

Edited January 10, 2018 by Redshade

[James J Johnson]

3 hours ago, Redshade said:

If you look in the Grand Comics Database for instance for Amazing Spider-Man 45 you will see that the US and UK variants are side by side in the US section. These have the same publisher/printer indicia and ads for US goods EXACTLY as the US issue because they were published/printed in the US at the same time..

 

 

All others are reprints and are listed as such in the foreign section and will have a DIFFERENT publisher and printer as well as ads for the country in which the comic was reprinted. The layouts and titles will also be noticeably different. This is as true for foreign language reprints as it is for English language reprints :

Sometimes the artwork may even be altered in foreign reprints :

 

Hope this helps.

 

Yes, that is helpful, thank you.

[Redshade]

On 1/6/2018 at 10:53 PM, Marwood & I said:

 

Cheers Mike / Mark, thanks for your thoughts 

I do know they didn't run already printed sheets through and overwrote them, but I'm not an expert. Aman619 knows a lot about the printing process, hence my earlier call out to him, and I hope he'll dive in at some point. He did explain it all to me once, but I can't find it. It might be in the font variation thread somewhere.

Liz - like the new avatar. Very sedate. I will miss the old boy though - remember this one from last year?:

 

Not enough mucking about in 2018 so far for my liking. First Barry sighting though 

On the subject of the printing process, which has always interested me, I picked up this pack of an old Alan Class reprint from 1962. The pictures aren't the best, but you should see 'Out of This World' #21 along with the four original cover plates plus COA signed by Alan Class himself (he's still going strong):

Looking at the plates you can kind of see how it was done, with a fairly crude scraping out of the plate in places where no ink was wanted. It's a cool thing and a pence copy (albeit not a Marvel reprint, but it's my thread and I'll post what I like in it)

Anyway, let's see if the printing experts chip in soon. All good fun 

Not long until Bobby's thread now. Keep 'em peeled.....

But surely mate this IS a reprint

[Get Marwood & I]

30 minutes ago, Redshade said:

But surely mate this IS a reprint

Yes, it is a reprint, but not of a Marvel title is what I meant. American Comics Group, I think. 

[Gaard]

I just wanted you to know that even though I have nothing to contribute, I find this subject matter fascinating. Thanks for the obviously tedious work.

[Redshade]

3 hours ago, Gaard said:

I just wanted you to know that even though I have nothing to contribute, I find this subject matter fascinating. Thanks for the obviously tedious work.

Hi Gaard.

Thank you for your kind comments (even if they weren't meant for me).

I  don't mind researching comics at all.

As a proponent of the hobby I enjoy it very much.

When things get tedious, then that is the time to start a different hobby.

Regards.

Redshade.

[Gaard]

9 hours ago, Redshade said:

Hi Gaard.

Thank you for your kind comments (even if they weren't meant for me).

I  don't mind researching comics at all.

As a proponent of the hobby I enjoy it very much.

When things get tedious, then that is the time to start a different hobby.

Regards.

Redshade.

Meant for everyone in this thread.

I was one of those "teenage comic geeks" back in the mid '70s, but I'm still amazed at the things I had no idea about & how much work (<-- that's what it seems like) people put into gathering/sharing this kind of information. I love reading about the history of our hobby, and the subject of this thread just makes me say 'wow' - not just because of the info, but because people took the time to research it.

Mike

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8 hours ago, Gaard said:

Meant for everyone in this thread.

I was one of those "teenage comic geeks" back in the mid '70s, but I'm still amazed at the things I had no idea about & how much work (<-- that's what it seems like) people put into gathering/sharing this kind of information. I love reading about the history of our hobby, and the subject of this thread just makes me say 'wow' - not just because of the info, but because people took the time to research it.

Mike

Thanks for the kind words Gaard! If you have signatures turned on, there are links to my DC and Miller Pence threads and my Font Variant thread just under the pretty picture. You might enjoy those too. Charlton is next up. It's going to knock the Marvel one for six(d) 

[Get Marwood & I]

17 hours ago, Redshade said:

Hi Gaard.

Thank you for your kind comments (even if they weren't meant for me).

I  don't mind researching comics at all.

As a proponent of the hobby I enjoy it very much.

When things get tedious, then that is the time to start a different hobby.

Regards.

Redshade.

I joke about the 'tedium' of it all often. Well, the cretin Marwood does anyway. Truth be told, I love it 

[Redshade]

4 minutes ago, Marwood & I said:

Thanks for the kind words Gaard! If you have signatures turned on, there are links to my DC and Miller Pence threads and my Font Variant thread just under the pretty picture. You might enjoy those too. Charlton is next up. It's going to knock the Marvel one for six(d) 

Hi Marwood. Sorry to bother you again but as you are online at the moment could you explain to this old duffer how to access/activate this "signatures" thingy?

[Get Marwood & I]

8 minutes ago, Redshade said:

Hi Marwood. Sorry to bother you again but as you are online at the moment could you explain to this old duffer how to access/activate this "signatures" thingy?

Yup.

Select 'Signature Settings' from Settings as below:

 

Turn the 'View Signatures' button (shown below) to on / green:

 

You'll then see what everyone has. Mine looks like this:

 

Once on, you can turn individual ones off (e.g. if they're enormous / horrible, as many are) by ticking this button just under the like button:

 

Let me know how you get on!

 

 

 

[Redshade]

Marwood. Got it. Thank you.

[Get Marwood & I]

4 minutes ago, Redshade said:

Marwood. Got it. Thank you.

Sooper. Miller thread's me favourite, if you're up for a spell of reading 

[ADAMANTIUM]

16 minutes ago, Marwood & I said:

Sooper. Miller thread's me favourite, if you're up for a spell of reading 

Thank you for saying how to turn some off, and once some are off it's just as easy to turn those back on?

I like them on but some people that were new to it got carried away the last I had them on..... mouthful 

I probably won't have one... never got around to figuring it out, I assume or hopefully they're just as easy as avatars

 

Edited January 12, 2018 by ADAMANTIUM

[ADAMANTIUM]

If that wasn't clear hahaa 

I like some but newbies to it were over exerting it and I didn't want to be one of those just yet  I liked looking at other's, but wanted a way to turn some off until they got their act together                  jk

I'll always turn those back on, but some were hard to scroll by on the phone 

[Get Marwood & I]

1 minute ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

If that wasn't clear hahaa 

I like some but newbies to it were over exerting it and I didn't want to be one of those just yet  I liked looking at other's, but wanted a way to turn some off until they got their act together                  jk

I'll always turn those back on, but some were hard to scroll by on the phone 

Some people's signatures fill a whole page! They all get turned off. Some are great though, and they give you a clue what interests the owner. I like ones with links to interesting threads / websites etc and those with great lines of cool books. They must be sized right though - no one likes uneven pictures 

I'm on my phone now, so no 'how to' pictures I'm afraid, but once you've turned off a person's sig you can turn it back on by going to 'ignored users' under settings. 

And creating a sig is as easy as creating a post. Try it. Anything you do you can amend or delete. Settings , signature settings, and you'll find a nice big square to fill with words, pics, gifs and links. Have a go Mark!

[Get Marwood & I]

Afternoon.

We haven't had the best of times lately so Marwood and I decided to take a break down in Whitstable to get away from the slings and arrows. We like coastal towns in Englandville, especially out of season and, besides, it has a comic shop to investigate. And this pub:

 

The PC has the most splendid interior:

 

Isn't it marvellous!? We do like the huge art deco lights, and the big imposing portrait of Mr Cushing. Thought we missed it in this shot, until we checked the mirror's reflection:

 

We were hoping our old friend @Cushing Fan could tell us the name of the actor here. We know who he is of course, but do you think his name would come to us?

 

Answers on a post card please. Here's Mr C in Sherlock mode:

  

 

Seems he was a rather good painter too. Talented fellow, all round. 

 

The pub used to be a cinema, and it's nice to see that it played to packed audiences to the end....

 

 

....blame it on Caine's acting more like  (don't be alarmed reader. Carter Caine is Marwood's top tough guy. Well, only comparatively )

Some relics of the olden days! A projector:

 

 

And a 'thingy'

 

 

We love thingy's 

Across the road, we find another of Mr Cushing's old haunts, the 'Tudor Tea Rooms' where a 'Full Englandville' beckons:

 

That is until Marwood catches sight of two of the local talents and goes into 'hello ladies' mode:

   

Personally, I think the phrase 'any port in a storm' has it's limitations. That is until we see this foxy chick in a window down the road:

 

 

Rooowwwwr!

 

Lady in red!

We happen across @Robot Man's family, seemingly lost:

 

 Help me Obi-Wan! You're my only hope!

 

And Lord only who knows what this chap is up to. He looks like someone Jim would know:

@porcupine48

 

And here's one for @lizards2 lizard brain. He likes Barry  And Barry, in this instance is a cactus. Which has spikes. Which can be found on Porcupines. The links are endless!

 

Something tells me Jim would spend a penny in here. Once he'd converted the currency, obviously. Still no luck hunting down the Medusa Touch soundtrack though....

 

Continuing the moosic theme, Marwood was taken by this Beetles with an A poster in the local on the sea front. Very nice it was, until someones rotten reflection ruined it:

 

Talking of rotten.....

 

£65 my hairy hair brush!

I spot this painting of the old war forts in an art gallery window and Marwood tells me they look like AT-AT walkers:

 

Bizarrely enough, so do others, as we discover the next day in another shop (note Cushing trying to get in on the act again in the background):

 

Nearly at the comic shop! There appears to be a thriving local comic community, according to this poster:

 

Hulk no like poster. Poster make Hulk look fat. Hulk not fat. May smash! 

Who let him in? Always trying to get in on the act that one. We may have to unleash 'Crabzilla' onto him:

 

Or this chap:

 

Comic shop looks promising. Any shop with a full size Dalek in it has to be fully recommended:

 

Sterminate!

Nearly bought this, but Batcowl looked like he was saying "Leave, the kit, alone":

 

Look at that lot!

 

Had a good chat with the owner. He had an X-Men #1 CGC 3.0 SS with a decent Stan signature, nicely placed. At £2,500 though, I decided to pass. After some rooting around, looking for pence copies, all I found was this:

 

I remember selling a copy of this for a silly £100 or so back in the sell off days. Marwood convinced me to have another go. At £3, I may be able to fund some other purchases with it although I don't think I'll ever get near £100 again.

One last window shop before we go, and it occurs to me that this card works on several levels:

 

A nice ash tray for Doc Ock:

 

Cool robot lamps...

 

A rather suggestive banana lamp, with a suitably alarmed dog trying not to notice:

 

And more of the same:

 

All too rich for my tastes though.  I settle for this mad chap, for £3 from a charity shop:

 

So, what does any of that have to do with pence copies I hear you cry? 

Nothing. Still on 3,007.

Sorry about that.

 

 

 

[ADAMANTIUM]

Glad that you got to get away and spend some free time @Marwood & I

And pics to boot 

[lizards2]

Loved the photos, Lovey!   

[lizards2]

Did you find me any NM pence copies?