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[Stryfe1000]

9 hours ago, nesqrick2 said:

last sale of X-men#101 9.2 pence copy on GPA was $300 in 2014 , it seem that nobody want to sell their pence variants, hard copy to get in VF or higher .Nice copy you have .

Heres my Pride and Joy (Apologies for the blur - scanner has no field depth settings)

[nesqrick2]

pence copy

[Get Marwood & I]

Tum te tum, tum te tum. Tum te tumtete tum te tumm...

Afternoon.

Another grey and moody one in Englandville. No bus, no boss, no rain no train..... What to do? 

Marwood suggests we go and get the new Morrissey album. He's just come up from his medication (Marwood that is, not Morrissey, although I'm sure a suitable argument could be made for both of them) and you can't begrudge him the odd treat, even though he is a bona (drag) fide cretin. So, off we went to Sainsburys to try our luck. 

The days of actual record shops and such like are gone of course, but the local Sainsburys often serves it's purpose and doesn't disappoint. Marwood mutters something about not being sure whether Morrissey would appreciate the placement of his new missive against a lump of dead cow as we load up at the checkout. I tell him to shut his face as there is nothing wrong with a good slow cooked cow with a crispy maris piper. He does have a point though, I guess:

 

Back indoors, and the boredom threatens to engulf us both, so out comes the last lonely case of comics. Let's muck about with our two Amazing Spider-Man number fives. One is a pence copy of course - that is why we're here after all - and the other a cents copy. No cents puns this time readers, or Jedi. But ours is a cents copy with a difference, as you will find out if you can bear with this tedium long enough to get to the end, where all will be revealed.

So, here are our two covers. Best to view these on a PC if you can, as then you'll see them how the author intended, and not all bunched up and oversized on your mobile or tablet (put the damn things down for 5 flipping minutes would you!):

 

 

Putting these two side by side gives us an opportunity to test the theory that pence books were printed first, and have deeper colours accordingly. Not too much difference is there? What do you think Marwood? He say's "Get a Goddam life". Charming. Is it me though, or are those yellows and greens a little more vivid? We may never know.

Now, how does everything else compare?  The back covers are the same....

 

 

But wait! Shock of shocks, the prices are different!    Heh heh. Pillock.

  

 

Dates too. We can't be doing with dates in Englandville. What would you want a date on a comic for? That way madness lays. 'Dates', I ask you. 

  

 

So, everything's the same except the date and price. Let's have a look inside.

Jeptha Judge of Israel, the indicia's are different! Alert the tribal elders Marwood! Marwood, I said "alert the tribal elders"! Marwood! Alright, don't play then. Cretin. I said cretin, you cretin. Don't you threaten me with that or I'll tell you where to put it. With knobs on!

  

 

Everything else is the same though. Just that 'Thorpe & Porter" gubbins at the bottom of the indicia. I tell you, if it had said "L Miller" I'd have fairly sheet myself. That doesn't mean I'd wrap myself in a sheet of course, it's just my way of invoking that thing you do on the pan most days without arousing (ding dong!) the wrath of the Modlins. Silly Modlins.

No other differences throughout...

 

...until you get to here:

 

Flippng Nora, Spidey's green in the cents copy!   This makes no cents! Unless, of course, your cents copy is a misprint. Which it is!

 

Sorry for the green and purple herring, but what else can we do on a (now) rainy Saturday afternoon? 

Anyway, time for Marwood's nap. 

That pence difference recap again - price, date box, indicia. Maybe Morrissey could make a song about that, pottering as he does over lifes tiny inconsequentialities? 

I spent the day in bed.....

 

Chin chin! 

[Get Marwood & I]

While he's asleep, there's a cool article here on the Thought Balloon website. Nice chap runs it, and I've swapped a mail or two in the past. Some interesting thoughts and observations within it on pence books. I must drop him another line regarding the Millers and their 6d stamps though... 

http://www.wymann.info/comics/086-PencePriceVariants2017.html

[Get Marwood & I]

I posted this earlier in the "Amazing Fantasy 15 Is Worth How Much!? Club" to show the difference in prices that the same book goes for in pence vs cents. I barely got a response of course, so I thought I'd post it again here where I know I can be sure it will get zero response:

4 hours ago, Marwood & I said:

A 6.0 Pence copy just sold on Heritage for 27K with BP 

 

6.0 Cents copy for 45K with BP:

 

The pence book actually looks better, has no chipping and yet it went for just over 50% of it's rivals final price. Nonsense isn't it. 

Edited November 18, 2017 by Marwood & I
Centslessness

[porcupine48]

1 minute ago, Marwood & I said:

I posted this earlier in the "Amazing Fantasy 15 Is Worth How Much!? Club" to show the difference in prices that the same book goes for in pence vs cents. Barely got a response of course, so I thought I'd post it again here where I know it will get zero response:

 

The pence book actually looks better, has no chipping and yet it went for just over 50% of it's rival. Nonsense isn't it. 

nonsense.

I'd trade my NA 1.5 for a 3.0 pence anytime.

 

[Get Marwood & I]

9 hours ago, porcupine48 said:

nonsense.

I'd trade my NA 1.5 for a 3.0 pence anytime.

 

Indeed!

What's a NA Jim? 

[Harry Lime]

Yeah, the general rule of thumb is that pence copies are 'worth' about 50% of their full fat cent cousins, except in Britain where I see them make just as much or almost as the bog standard version.

Thanks for the info about pence copies being printed first, or is it an urban comic myth? Either way I've never heard that before.

[Get Marwood & I]

2 minutes ago, Harry Lime said:

Yeah, the general rule of thumb is that pence copies are 'worth' about 50% of their full fat cent cousins, except in Britain where I see them make just as much or almost as the bog standard version.

Thanks for the info about pence copies being printed first, or is it an urban comic myth? Either way I've never heard that before.

Morning Harry!

I've seen it mentioned here and there. Never seen it substantiated though, and it's probably one of those things we'll never know now, like why font variants exist, cents copies have T&P indicias and why Miller got some titles.

One of them had to come first I suppose. Whether it was the pence run, or the cents, or it was alternated, it probably doesn't matter. Although whichever came first would have had less chance of chipping, and deeper colours...

Anyway. Fancy a game of spot the difference?:

  

[1950's war comics]

 

Anyway. Fancy a game of spot the difference?:

 

@Marwood & I  Both of those are sweet ! that 5p variant is so nice and colorful !!

[1950's war comics]

2 hours ago, Marwood & I said:

Morning Harry!

I've seen it mentioned here and there. Never seen it substantiated though, and it's probably one of those things we'll never know now, like why font variants exist, cents copies have T&P indicias and why Miller got some titles.

One of them had to come first I suppose. Whether it was the pence run, or the cents, or it was alternated, it probably doesn't matter. Although whichever came first would have had less chance of chipping, and deeper colours...

Anyway. Fancy a game of spot the difference?:

  

I would give one of these George II cartwheels for one of those !!

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[1950's war comics]

@Marwood & I Even though just me and that other chap from Timbuktu are the only ones who actively read this great thread ..

and even though i don't collect  pence variants i want you to know it is one of the best and most interesting threads on these boards !!! 

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[1950's war comics]

Marvel Pence Price Variants

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Started by Marwood & I, March 10

 

 

[Harry Lime]

3 hours ago, Marwood & I said:

Morning Harry!

I've seen it mentioned here and there. Never seen it substantiated though, and it's probably one of those things we'll never know now, like why font variants exist, cents copies have T&P indicias and why Miller got some titles.

One of them had to come first I suppose. Whether it was the pence run, or the cents, or it was alternated, it probably doesn't matter. Although whichever came first would have had less chance of chipping, and deeper colours...

Anyway. Fancy a game of spot the difference?:

  

Afternoon, you two!

Love the cover on the Spidey comic weekly. Don't think I would have appreciated the black n' whiteness of the interior art or was it, even worse, a two-tone job?

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4 minutes ago, Harry Lime said:

Afternoon, you two!

Love the cover on the Spidey comic weekly. Don't think I would have appreciated the black n' whiteness of the interior art or was it, even worse, a two-tone job?

Don't dis the two tone Har 

[VintageComics]

On 11/18/2017 at 8:42 AM, Marwood & I said:

 

 

 

 

 

Flippng Nora, Spidey's green in the cents copy!   This makes no cents! Unless, of course, your cents copy is a misprint. Which it is!

 

Sorry for the green and purple herring, but what else can we do on a (now) rainy Saturday afternoon? 

Anyway, time for Marwood's nap. 

That pence difference recap again - price, date box, indicia. Maybe Morrissey could make a song about that, pottering as he does over lifes tiny inconsequentialities? 

I spent the day in bed.....

 

 

So let me get this straight.

On the top pic, the Pence copy is on the left, but when you are showing the interiors the Pence copy is on the right and the cents copy has the green misprint?

@DiceX

Dice (or anyone else that has worked in the printing industry) is there any way of explaining the color differences between the two issues to give any clues as to earlier or later printings, or could inks and cutting blades be adjusted at any time through the printing process and it's all just random changes with no real clues as to a timeline?

I notice that not only are the greens deeper in the corner box on the Pence copy but there are better colors on Dr. Doom and in all the other greens on the Pence cover. It's definitely not fading as the Reds are solid on both.

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16 minutes ago, VintageComics said:

So let me get this straight.

On the top pic, the Pence copy is on the left, but when you are showing the interiors the Pence copy is on the right and the cents copy has the green misprint?

@DiceX

Dice (or anyone else that has worked in the printing industry) is there any way of explaining the color differences between the two issues to give any clues as to earlier or later printings, or could inks and cutting blades be adjusted at any time through the printing process and it's all just random changes with no real clues as to a timeline?

I notice that not only are the greens deeper in the corner box on the Pence copy but there are better colors on Dr. Doom and in all the other greens on the Pence cover. It's definitely not fading as the Reds are solid on both.

Jeepers Roy, what are you doing in here! I feel like I've had a royal visit or something 

Yes, the pence is on the right of the screen in the interior shots. As far as I know, the covers were printed separately so the interior quality may not be overly relevant or provable. 

It would be nice if we had an expert on board from the old printers days. Along with the question of which books were printed first, pence or cents, it would be nice to get an explanation for all the other nuances I plague the boards with - Miller indicias, Thorpe & Porter indicias in cents books, font variations etc. There must be someone alive who worked at Sparta that someone knows. 

Thanks for popping in and showing an interest 

[VintageComics]

54 minutes ago, Marwood & I said:

It would be nice if we had an expert on board from the old printers days. Along with the question of which books were printed first, pence or cents, it would be nice to get an explanation for all the other nuances I plague the boards with - Miller indicias, Thorpe & Porter indicias in cents books, font variations etc. There must be someone alive who worked at Sparta that someone knows. 

@DiceX worked in this exact field for many years, which is why I posed the question to him. He'd be able to say definitively.