Dogsupreme Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 CLASSIC X-MEN question Ok. So I recently bought a huge stack of copper age books with nearly a complete run of CLASSIC X-MEN. At first I thought it was just a straight reprint of the NEW X-MEN run from the 1970s HOWEVER, there is NEW MATERIAL in it. Should it still be considered a reprint? Or does the new material change the classification? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteppinRazor Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 I don't think it has changed the classification, don't know if it should. BTW, the second story in 39 is Jim Lee's 2nd work for Marvel if you weren't aware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von Cichlid Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 That series is almost single-handily responsible for making me a comic fanatic at the end of the 80's / beginning of the 90's when I first got into them. While the Uncanny X-Men of the era were still decent with the Jim Lee and Silvestri art they were nothing compared to the Byrne/Austin magic that was in those issues. The Art Adams covers were always amazing and many of the John Bolton backups were good as well. Steve Lightle's Dark Phoenix Saga covers were amazing too, in particular that issue 39 and 40-43 as well. I always wondered why they skipped 141 and 142 in the reprints. It was probably because that square bound reprint came out at around the same time. I liked the Mignola covers also but they were definitely a step down from the Adams / Lightle runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrisonJohn Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 There's a Classic X-Men omnibus coming in December if anyone is interested. F For Fake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 3 hours ago, SteppinRazor said: BTW, the second story in 39 is Jim Lee's 2nd work for Marvel if you weren't aware No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von Cichlid Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 ^ He probably meant the 2nd work on X-Men. I remember some earlier Alpha Flight issues he did and of course you had those PWJ's as well. Lee's work on that back up story is great though. The X-Men 248 was pretty good but right there is really when Lee hit his X-Men style that he was known for imo. One could argue that PWJ 6 and 7 was were he found it as well. I still can't say I have ever seen a better looking Wolverine than on those three issues. Different maybe, but not better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteppinRazor Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Sorry, right, 2nd X-Men work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F For Fake Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 When I was a kid I bought Classic X-Men from the grocery store, and didn't know that the "backup" stories weren't part of the original comics. Hey, I was a kid. Kids are dumb. Still, there's some super work in those backups. Well worth the read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 5 hours ago, Dogsupreme said: Ok. So I recently bought a huge stack of copper age books with nearly a complete run of CLASSIC X-MEN. At first I thought it was just a straight reprint of the NEW X-MEN run from the 1970s HOWEVER, there is NEW MATERIAL in it. Should it still be considered a reprint? Or does the new material change the classification? It's still a reprint title even if it includes some new supplemental material. Every issue's main purpose is to be a reprint, but they aren't just reprints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 I like the series . . . but then again, I love reprints too, especially those on newsprint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsupreme Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 3 hours ago, divad said: I like the series . . . but then again, I love reprints too, especially those on newsprint. Plus they have ALL NEW covers. A lot of them drawn by Art Adams. Most reprints just reprint the cover with new logos and price. F For Fake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeksAreMyPeeps Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Dogsupreme said: Plus they have ALL NEW covers. A lot of them drawn by Art Adams. Most reprints just reprint the cover with new logos and price. Just a matter of time before these books start getting some cover love. Von Cichlid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeksAreMyPeeps Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 On 5/14/2017 at 11:27 PM, Von Cichlid said: That series is almost single-handily responsible for making me a comic fanatic at the end of the 80's / beginning of the 90's when I first got into them. While the Uncanny X-Men of the era were still decent with the Jim Lee and Silvestri art they were nothing compared to the Byrne/Austin magic that was in those issues. The Art Adams covers were always amazing and many of the John Bolton backups were good as well. Steve Lightle's Dark Phoenix Saga covers were amazing too, in particular that issue 39 and 40-43 as well. I always wondered why they skipped 141 and 142 in the reprints. It was probably because that square bound reprint came out at around the same time. I liked the Mignola covers also but they were definitely a step down from the Adams / Lightle runs. There are a few other issues they didn't bother to reprint, but I forget the issue numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsupreme Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) I totally love the covers! Some of them are better than the original. Edited May 17, 2017 by Dogsupreme Von Cichlid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von Cichlid Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 1 hour ago, GeeksAreMyPeeps said: There are a few other issues they didn't bother to reprint, but I forget the issue numbers. I think it was a couple of filler issues like 106 and 110. Those weren't drawn by Cockrum or Byrne, and I don't believe hey had Claremont writing either. Their stories broke from the current story lines as well. One issue was about some villain named Warhawk and I couldn't tell you what the other issue was about. The skipping of 141 and 142 was more suspicious to me because those certainly weren't filler. For instance, the end of 140 has Blob breaking out of prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeksAreMyPeeps Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, Von Cichlid said: I think it was a couple of filler issues like 106 and 110. Those weren't drawn by Cockrum or Byrne, and I don't believe hey had Claremont writing either. Their stories broke from the current story lines as well. One issue was about some villain named Warhawk and I couldn't tell you what the other issue was about. The skipping of 141 and 142 was more suspicious to me because those certainly weren't filler. For instance, the end of 140 has Blob breaking out of prison. That makes sense. And sounds about right; I do remember them being in the early 100s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaykin Stevens Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Just now, Von Cichlid said: I think it was a couple of filler issues like 106 and 110. Those weren't drawn by Cockrum or Byrne, and I don't believe hey had Claremont writing either. Their stories broke from the current story lines as well. One issue was about some villain named Warhawk and I couldn't tell you what the other issue was about. X-Men #106 was scripted by Claremont and had three pages of Cockrum art, but the rest of the issue was plotted by Bill Mantlo and drawn by Bob Brown. It dealt with the team being attacked by an evil part of Professor X's mind. #X-Men 110 with Warhawk, an Iron Fist villain, was by Claremont and Tony DeZuniga. When Jim Shooter became Editor In Chief, he had every series prepare a standalone fill-in to run in case the Dreaded Deadline Doom struck, so as to avoid reprint issues. When it became apparent Claremont and Byrne would have no problems with deadlines, they ran the fill-in to get it out of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von Cichlid Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Chaykin Stevens said: X-Men #106 was scripted by Claremont and had three pages of Cockrum art, but the rest of the issue was plotted by Bill Mantlo and drawn by Bob Brown. It dealt with the team being attacked by an evil part of Professor X's mind. #X-Men 110 with Warhawk, an Iron Fist villain, was by Claremont and Tony DeZuniga. When Jim Shooter became Editor In Chief, he had every series prepare a standalone fill-in to run in case the Dreaded Deadline Doom struck, so as to avoid reprint issues. When it became apparent Claremont and Byrne would have no problems with deadlines, they ran the fill-in to get it out of the way. I didn't know Claremont wrote those. I do remember Firelord being in a little of 106, that must've been the Cockrum drawn portion. I have the 106 but I'm missing the 110 from my run. I'll have to read it in my omnibus hardback when I get the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrisonJohn Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 The first issue was the best selling Marvel comic for that month. Pretty impressive for a reprint. By the end I don't even remember seeing it at my LCS anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aweandlorder Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 These Arthur Adams covers were an art school for some of today's biggest talents 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...