How does resto effect the grade? (Hulk 181) 0

[ApexComix]

How does resto effect the grade? (Hulk 181)

Hello everybody,

Here is my issue: I recently submitted a Hulk 181 signed by Stan Lee to get a yellow label. Fast forward and it comes back as a restored 7.0 (small amount of color touch on cover, page 10 married with glue, slight c-1). Aesthetically, this is a beautiful book and looks much better than many 9.0's that I have seen so here is my question.... Does the fact that it's restored inherently bring the grade down? I haven't ever received a restored book so I'm unclear on this. Any help would be greatly appreciated and I'll post pics if anybody would like to see them. Thanks - ApexComix

[Gotham Kid]

31 minutes ago, ApexComix said:

Does the fact that it's restored inherently bring the grade down?

No.

There are restored 9.8s even.

[rjpb]

C-1 indicates that while the restoration is slight, it is of poor quality. Poor quality color touch might actually negatively impact the apparent grade.

[ApexComix]

Thanks for the input, guys.

[Gotham Kid]

didn't catch the c-1 ( indeed, unless pro resto might have negative impact )

[Bomber-Bob]

The OP also has to realize that, unlike the Qualified grade, a Restored grade does not ignore the defects that are covered up by restoration. So, if the CT is covering up a crease, the crease is counted against the grade. In my personal experience, a restored book usually looks undergraded.

BTW, a 9.8 with resto, hard to believe.

[Artboy99]

On ‎2017‎/‎05‎/‎28 at 3:34 PM, Bomber-Bob said:

The OP also has to realize that, unlike the Qualified grade, a Restored grade does not ignore the defects that are covered up by restoration. So, if the CT is covering up a crease, the crease is counted against the grade. In my personal experience, a restored book usually looks undergraded.

BTW, a 9.8 with resto, hard to believe.

Isn't any in GPA data. Doesn't mean anything though.

[Bomber-Bob]

1 hour ago, Artboy99 said:

Isn't any in GPA data. Doesn't mean anything though.

 I don't think there is an easy way to cross reference the census. Maybe CGC has some search tools available to them.  Assuming a 9.8 has no major flaw, what would the resto be covering up that would allow it to be a 9.8 ?. Even the slightest CT touch would be covering up something color breaking. If it exists, maybe a 9.8 with resto was graded when tape didn't count against the grade. 

[ApexComix]

Thanks, everybody. I usually have a good eye and can catch color touches, but it got right by me. I suppose that C-1 is amateur, but it looks like it's done fairly well.

[Bomber-Bob]

4 hours ago, ApexComix said:

Thanks, everybody. I usually have a good eye and can catch color touches, but it got right by me. I suppose that C-1 is amateur, but it looks like it's done fairly well.

I don't think the designation of 'amateur' has anything to do with the quality of work. I think it's more a designation for the type of ink used. Amateur usually means it cannot be removed. Of course it can be scraped off but I hate that look.