AnkurJ Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 @aokartman it was the same dealer before and after the auction. lobrac, Kohei and Rick2you2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rick2you2 Posted October 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 29, 2020 5 hours ago, AnkurJ said: And on the other thread too Now, why were there deleted? Why is it illigitimate to question what looks like market manipulation, by offering specific facts and NOT making any accusations? Noob19, Randall Dowling, Will_K and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkurJ Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 21 minutes ago, Rick2you2 said: Now, why were there deleted? Why is it illigitimate to question what looks like market manipulation, by offering specific facts and NOT making any accusations? That’s a question for the mods. vodou 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick2you2 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Perhaps 2 hours ago, aokartman said: AnkurJ said "10/2018 was offered for $12k “sold” in heritage earlier this year for 6k https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/covers/adam-hughes-red-sonja-tarzan-1-cover-original-art-dynamite-entertainment-2018-/a/7229-94057.s Now available at $11,500 and on hold https://www.comicartfans.com/ForSaleDetails.asp?ArtId=5468592" Thanks, AnkurJ, This reveals for new, or recent, collectors how the marketplace is not necessarily as transparent as it might appear at first look. There is no way of following the ownership provenance, so it's all guesswork as to whether it is simply market shenanigans. The piece may have been waiting for the right buyer for a couple years, meanwhile churning through dealer sites and auction houses to gain visibility and price point credibility. Who offered it for $12K in 2018? (Curious). Best, David I really wish people would stop looking at the price of art and think more about the artistic merit of the piece. Then this sort of stuff would be much hard to do. Frankly, I think the piece looks stereotypical dumb, even if Hughes is a good artist. But then, I have noticed for the past several months, some inexpensive pieces by Kaluta showing up regularly on Heritage and selling for well under $1,000. Okay, the subject matter isn’t always the most interesting, and there isn’t a Spider-man or Batman in the bunch, but they are the work of a very skillful artist (who sometimes is a little too detailed perhaps). I’m not shilling, they aren’t for sale by me, but compared to that painting? Really, makes me wonder about a lot of pricing. Randall Dowling, BuraddoRun and ShallowDan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick2you2 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, AnkurJ said: That’s a question for the mods. Who/how is it asked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobrac Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 15 minutes ago, Rick2you2 said: Perhaps I really wish people would stop looking at the price of art and think more about the artistic merit of the piece. Then this sort of stuff would be much hard to do. Frankly, I think the piece looks stereotypical dumb, even if Hughes is a good artist. Still fugly. http://www.romitaman.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=23649&ArtistId=1307 Squeezy McSphincter , Rick2you2 and Randall Dowling 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick2you2 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 24 minutes ago, lobrac said: Still fugly. What’s the opposite of orgasm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lobrac Posted October 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2020 5 hours ago, AnkurJ said: 10/2018 was offered for $12k “sold” in heritage earlier this year for 6k https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/covers/adam-hughes-red-sonja-tarzan-1-cover-original-art-dynamite-entertainment-2018-/a/7229-94057.s Now available at $11,500 and on hold https://www.comicartfans.com/ForSaleDetails.asp?ArtId=5468592 vodou, Noob19, Randall Dowling and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aokartman Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 14 hours ago, lobrac said: It could be one of those buy back situations where the consignor eats the fees to get the art back. The piece also gets a history of "not fake" from the recognized auction house by virtue of the "sale" which has some value. David Rick2you2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weird Paper Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 7:23 PM, Rick2you2 said: What’s the opposite of orgasm? Norgasm. You're welcome. Rick2you2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romitaman Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) I'm proud to share this great Adam Hughes Red Sonja cover story for EVERYONE, that Ankur posted above! I love it when this happens by the way.......I sold this cover 2 years ago (at San Diego Comic Con I believe)...Low and behold it appears in the May 2020 Heritage Auction.... It shocked the heck out of me that i was able to win it for 6900........ I put it back up on my website for 500 less than what i sold it for in 2018..... And 1 hour after i put it on my website i had a buyer for 11.5k.... ALL CASH! I always tell people..... Just because something sells at auction for a certain price only means it was worth that much on "THAT PARTICULAR DAY!" If people want to give their thoughts, or conspiracy theories on what I did........Feel free.... Edited November 7, 2020 by romitaman Blastaar, Lee B., fenip and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Upgrade Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aokartman Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, First Upgrade said: It really is part of Mike's history, no doubt, but the shakeout was there was nothing untoward about his activity (then, or now, apparently), rather there was considerable blowback from collectors about discovering that having your friends bid on your auction lots and then selling them back to you was OK. I am not that drilled in that I would conceive of such a plan, but I can see if it is your life's work or primary source of income, whatever, go for it. Best, David S. Albright Edited November 7, 2020 by aokartman text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vodou Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 I smell bait. Twice in one week. Good week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grapeape Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 3 hours ago, vodou said: I smell bait. Twice in one week. Good week The waters are chummed 🦈 If this was a seventies cop show they’d call it Mod Squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShallowDan Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 8:23 PM, Rick2you2 said: What’s the opposite of orgasm? There's an ex-wife joke sitting here on the tee, waiting for someone to take a swing at it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick2you2 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 43 minutes ago, ShallowDan said: There's an ex-wife joke sitting here on the tee, waiting for someone to take a swing at it... I think you already hit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marwai Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 On 11/6/2020 at 9:04 PM, romitaman said: I'm proud to share this great Adam Hughes Red Sonja cover story Nice cover story. romitaman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blastaar Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 Sounds like Mike is a solid businessman that supports and stabilizes the hobby we love so much. His collection could be run by someone who could easily throw a wrench into the market. He loves transactions, the people, and the hobby. Good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnkurJ Posted November 9, 2020 Share Posted November 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Blastaar said: Sounds like Mike is a businessman that supports and causes concern regarding the validity of the hobby we love so much. His collection could be run by someone who could easily throw a wrench into the market which further causes concern for the manipulation that continues to happen. He loves transactions justified by false sales, the clueless people who continue to line up, and the hobby. Good for him. Bad for us. Fixed for you. At the end of the day, people will not care of the integrity of any dealer as long as it continues to feed their addiction. Edited November 9, 2020 by AnkurJ MagnusX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
