rjpb Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 What was the first Super-villain crossover? It's long been a tradition in superhero comics that villains are assigned to heroes. It wasn't until Marvel in the 60s that you began to see a villain associated with one hero show up in the pages of another hero's book with any sort of regularity. I was wondering what the first case of a villain being used as the foil for a hero other than the one he or she was originally assigned to? I'm not counting titles like All-Star, where the team concept might have allowed for battle with more than just the traditional protagonist, but that character was still present. We're there even any prior to the Silver Age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemart1966 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 I can't think of any bigger villains than Hitler, Mussolini and Tojo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Five Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Yeah, there are lots of ways to answer depending on how you finetune the question. There's a few issues of Weird Comics from 1940 where the Eagle feature has multiple villains teaming up and/or betraying and fighting each other. (I've always been a fan of that kind of story.) Off the top of my head, there were a few Joker/Luthor teamups in Superman/Batman stories in the late GA. World's Finest #88 from 1957 seems to have been the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemart1966 Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Vandal Savage maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 Jon Berk will know the answer. Or he can look it up for us. Oh, wait. Nevermind. MrBedrock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjpb Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 31 minutes ago, Point Five said: Yeah, there are lots of ways to answer depending on how you finetune the question. There's a few issues of Weird Comics from 1940 where the Eagle feature has multiple villains teaming up and/or betraying and fighting each other. (I've always been a fan of that kind of story.) Off the top of my head, there were a few Joker/Luthor teamups in Superman/Batman stories in the late GA. World's Finest #88 from 1957 seems to have been the first. Were they villains associated with the Eagle, or had they been used with other Fox heroes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjpb Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 24 minutes ago, pemart1966 said: Vandal Savage maybe? In as much as he battled other heroes in his JSA appearance as a member of the Injustice Society, this is probably right. But I was wondering if anyone had shown up in another character's strip, without it being connected to a team that the regular hero was on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Five Posted June 18, 2017 Share Posted June 18, 2017 25 minutes ago, rjpb said: Were they villains associated with the Eagle, or had they been used with other Fox heroes? Just Eagle villains teaming up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjpb Posted June 18, 2017 Author Share Posted June 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Point Five said: Just Eagle villains teaming up. Still, pretty cool. Super-villain team-ups are rare enough during the GA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timely Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 I believe the 1st villain to crossover is Crazy Quilt. He moved from a Boy Commandos villain to a villain Robin faced in Star Spangled Comics. He then later appeared in Detective Comics. Point Five and rjpb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjpb Posted June 19, 2017 Author Share Posted June 19, 2017 44 minutes ago, Timely said: I believe the 1st villain to crossover is Crazy Quilt. He moved from a Boy Commandos villain to a villain Robin faced in Star Spangled Comics. He then later appeared in Detective Comics. This is the sort of esoteric knowledge I was looking for. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gino2paulus2 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 cool thread idea!!! Knightsofold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemart1966 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 13 hours ago, rjpb said: In as much as he battled other heroes in his JSA appearance as a member of the Injustice Society, this is probably right. But I was wondering if anyone had shown up in another character's strip, without it being connected to a team that the regular hero was on. Did Vandal Savage not first show up in Green Lantern and then against the Justice Society? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjpb Posted June 19, 2017 Author Share Posted June 19, 2017 50 minutes ago, pemart1966 said: Did Vandal Savage not first show up in Green Lantern and then against the Justice Society? Vandal Savage and The Gambler first appeared in Green Lantern, The Thinker first appeared in All-Flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluechip Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 On 6/18/2017 at 2:10 PM, rjpb said: What was the first Super-villain crossover? It's long been a tradition in superhero comics that villains are assigned to heroes. It wasn't until Marvel in the 60s that you began to see a villain associated with one hero show up in the pages of another hero's book with any sort of regularity. I was wondering what the first case of a villain being used as the foil for a hero other than the one he or she was originally assigned to? I'm not counting titles like All-Star, where the team concept might have allowed for battle with more than just the traditional protagonist, but that character was still present. We're there even any prior to the Silver Age? batman 25? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemart1966 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, bluechip said: batman 25? Except that both of these villains were Batman specific - a team up yes but not a crossover... Edited June 20, 2017 by pemart1966 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluechip Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 On 6/20/2017 at 8:31 AM, pemart1966 said: Except that both of these villains were Batman specific - a team up yes but not a crossover... On 6/20/2017 at 8:31 AM, pemart1966 said: Except that both of these villains were Batman specific - a team up yes but not a crossover... I stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaillant Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 There are crossovers between Sgt. Boyle and Corporal Collins, both by Biro, but being "realtime" war stories I doubt villains popped up here and there, except the german army and nazists, or other axis allies. rjpb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readcomix Posted June 29, 2017 Share Posted June 29, 2017 What about Bulletman 7? Three super villains team up there. rjpb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
