Bosco685 Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 Senior Editor of Geeks Worldwide Reporting at D23. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 Quote EXCLUSIVE: As the dust settles on the Disney/Marvel and Kevin Feige exit from the Sony’s Spider-Man franchise, the next looming tug of war might well be over director Jon Watts, who catapulted from the small budget Sundance film Cop Car to the A-list helmer of the $880 million grosser Spider-Man: Homecoming and Spider-Man: Far From Home, which just surpassed the 007 film Skyfall to become Sony’s highest ever grossing film at $1.11 billion. I’m told that Watts was only bound to the Spidey franchise as director for those two pictures and that it’s no certainty he will be back to direct Tom Holland in the third installment being written by Chris McKenna and Erik Sommers. They wrote the record breaker Spider-Man: Far From Home. I’m told he’s being courted by Marvel. It is understandable that Marvel and Feige would want to keep things going with Watts: Feige has a strong track record of helping to change the career trajectory of filmmakers who wouldn’t have been automatic choices for mega-budget superhero films, from Joe & Anthony Russo to Taika Waititi, James Gunn and Scott Derrickson. As for one-upsmanship, there are bruised feelings between those studios over the Rashomon-like press narratives that followed Deadline’s scoop, over who did what in dismantling a brilliantly orchestrated introduction of a hit superhero franchise. It has gotten so bad that some wonder if it would even be possible for them to rethink things and come to terms on Spider-Man. On those talks that Deadline revealed Tuesday: I continue to hear from reliable sources that the notion Feige was too busy to do more Spider-Man films just doesn’t hold water; he loves the character and the way those movies served the fans and the Marvel Universe. I continue to hear that Disney asked for a 25% stake where it would finance that much of the movie and receive that much of the equity upside. This arrangement would only have been for any pictures that involved Marvel & Feige. It wasn’t a forever deal, like the time one Sony made years ago to continue as distributor of James Bond. Back then, Sony cut MGM into a co-financing relationship on the pictures The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo and 21 Jump Street, that gave MGM rights to co-finance future installments. The Spider-Man deal was only for pictures where Marvel lent Feige and the weight of its brand and cross pollination in Marvel movies. Still, it was a big ask of Sony, which had been getting a relative bargain at 5% of first dollar gross. That 25% offer sat for months, and finally Disney raised the ask to the 50% co-fi stake, likely knowing a divorce was coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 THE WASHINGTON POST: Behind the scenes of the Disney-Sony fight for Spider-Man Quote The battle was over money, as so many battles in Hollywood are. But it also spoke to a more significant question: How should a massive conglomerate operate in the modern landscape? Here’s what unfolded. An agreement four years ago allowed Disney’s Marvel Studios — and its King Midas-like top executive, Kevin Feige — to produce and manage Spider-Man movies for rival Sony Pictures, which has long held Marvel’s Spidey license. Sony initially had a lot of success with Spider-Man movies beginning in 2002. But after a wobbly reboot of the franchise a decade later, Sony faced a tricky question: What should the studio do with a property it badly needed yet somehow couldn’t maximize? Until recently. For all the shared profiting, the sides couldn’t agree on a renewal. According to industry website Deadline, to continue lending Feige’s expertise, Disney wanted to be a full partner — a box-office revenue share of 50-50, not just a pickup of ancillary revenue such as merchandising. But Sony didn’t want to give up that much. (The Hollywood Reporter put the Disney ask at 30 percent, but same difference.) But this wasn’t only a battle about money. Talking to five producers and studio executives around Hollywood, all of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity so as not to anger potential partners, it’s clear that another, more profound question was percolating: What should a megalith entertainment conglomerate like Disney look like in 2019? Should it be one that seeks to control every last property, steering it creatively and overseeing as much of its development as possible? Or is it okay, even smart, for a conglomerate to have properties scattered among other entities, because other companies can bring fresh ideas, and it’s impossible to effectively oversee all known franchises anyway? In short, will Disney function best as an empire, tightly overseeing its subjects? Or as a confederacy, allowing a degree of autonomy in places far from the capital? If Disney was to become the behemoth it aspires to be, it needed not only to make the movie but to become a full partner in it. If it was to let Feige run the show, it had to make sure it owned the house. But Sony wasn’t having that. And thus Disney faced a quandary: Should it let Feige keep guiding the movies despite unfavorable financial terms? Should it keep its subject close, not allowing a studio in a far corner of its empire to go off and do what it would with an important property? Or should it walk away, letting the far-flung corners of its kingdom do as they please and just live off the licensing fee? Disney chose the latter. It opted, uncharacteristically, to give up control, believing the movies weren’t worth their effort for minimal return — and gambling the films may not succeed as much without them anyway. “Everything Iger has practiced said since he took over has been ‘bring it in-house.’ But maybe in this case it was smarter to leave it outside,” said one executive not involved with either company. Disney, though, seems determined to walk away. Executives have taken the position they don’t need firsthand control of every last property in their stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Key Largo Comics Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Wow and not in good way. theCapraAegagrus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 8 hours ago, Key Largo Comics said: Wow and not in good way. I wouldn't get excited just yet. Fandom was throwing together any previous rumors what they can choose from. Lord & Miller have their own list, though the female Spider-Verse was announced rather quickly once Into the Spider-Verse started gaining fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 I might see Sinister Six...? I don't even know. Makes no sense to me to see any non-MCU Holland Spider-Man movies (in theaters, at least). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callaway29 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Bosco685 said: I wouldn't get excited just yet. Fandom was throwing together any previous rumors what they can choose from. Lord & Miller have their own list, though the female Spider-Verse was announced rather quickly once Into the Spider-Verse started gaining fans. Which ones are confirmed and which ones are just speculation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted September 27, 2019 Author Share Posted September 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Callaway29 said: Which ones are confirmed and which ones are just speculation? • Morbius• Venom 2• Spider-Man 3 & 4 (With Tom Holland)• Into the Spider-Verse 2• All-Female Spider-Verse spinoff• Kraven the Hunter• Black Cat• Silver Sable• Silk• Jackpot• Nightwatch• Madame Web• Sinister Six The bold titles. Kraven has been hinted and supposedly referenced in Venom via a truck advertisement. Callaway29 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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theCapraAegagrus Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 I guess I would see a Spider-Woman movie? Idk maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 Quote “The Amazing Spider-Man 2” co-writer Roberto Orci has been tapped to write an as-yet unititled “Spider-Man” spin-off movie, TheWrap has exclusively learned. Details about the project or which specific “Spider-man” or Marvel character will be used are currently being kept under wraps. The Orci project would be a part of Sony’s “Spider-Man” universe which is not part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe but does include Marvel Comics properties such as “Nitghtwatch,” “Silk,” “Venom,” “Silver and Black,” and “Morbius the Living Vampire.” Executive Vice President Palak Patel is overseeing for Sony. Orci’s blockbuster credits include two “Transformers” installments, Paramount’s “Star Trek” films, and “Mission: Impossible III.” On the small screen, Orci is an Emmy-winning TV writer-producer, who co-created Fox’s “Fringe,” “Sleepy Hollow,” “Matador,” and “Hawaii Five-O.” This will be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR.X Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 On 2/11/2020 at 12:56 PM, theCapraAegagrus said: I guess I would see a Spider-Woman movie? Idk maybe. Depends on what kind of spandex she's wearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenosmilus Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Not really a fan of Spider-Women but I guess they need to diversify and broaden the fan base. I like Sony's plans of making villain movies with Spider-Man crossing over. The one thing that would be cool (not sure how they would do it though) if they made Holland into McSpidey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkman Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 On 9/26/2019 at 2:07 PM, Bosco685 said: WOW. That would be awesome if they actually did those movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted March 19, 2020 Author Share Posted March 19, 2020 Quote The Illuminerdi has been tipped off on two new Spider-Man spin-offs being plotted at Sony Pictures. Sony is firmly in a new phase of Spider-Man filmmaking. They have a new agreement and understanding with Marvel Studios over the rights to Spider-Man and the MCU’s characters crossing the streams. They proved that they could make a hit superhero movie despite the absence of Spider-Man with Venom. The next spin-off film from Spidey’s world is this year’s Morbius, while the third Spider-Man film is prepping for an international shoot. However, everything has been thrown up in the air over the past few weeks and Hollywood, along with the rest of the world, has been turned upside down. So, with that uncertainty in mind, we wanted to share some information that we’ve been sitting on for a few weeks. We have had a lot of luck with our sources over at Sony and Marvel as of late. We were made aware of the direction of the Spider-Woman project, we were able to find out character and story details for Kraven the Hunter, and we were even able to catch wind of executives’ behind-the-scenes desire to bring Jake Gyllenhaal back into the fold. Finally, at the beginning of the month, we were told about two other Spider-Man spin-offs that are in the early stages of development. These projects may expand our understanding of how big the scope of Sony’s live-action Spider-Verse aspires to be. MORE SPIDER-MAN SPIN-OFFS? Typically, I don’t like running a story without a visual or secondary confirmation. However, our source has proven themselves, and with Hollywood coming to a halt and these projects being in the infancy of their development, that second confirmation is certainly some time away. Moreover, with the recent speculation over Sony’s mysterious future release dates (which will surely be altered due to world events), this information may help Marvelites to decode the future of the Spider-Verse. We certainly have enough time on our hands, right? Our source explained that Sony has two other lesser-known characters from the Marvel Comics’ world of Spider-Man, Solo and Man-Wolf, in the early stages of development at the studio. As far as we know there isn’t talent attached at this time, but they are on the conveyor belt of production that brought the equally improbable Morbius spin-off film to an unlikely reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hollywood1892 Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 On 3/19/2020 at 3:38 PM, Bosco685 said: How do you spell B-A-N-K-R-U-P-T-C-Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) Quote Solo is one of the latest Spider-Man characters to receive his own ‘solo’ film, which is slightly odd considering not many people even know who Solo is in the first place. As the Sony Spider-Verse continues to grow with the success of Venom and the hype surrounding the first trailer for 2020’s Morbius, it is clear that Sony is try to get their Spidey Cinematic Universe off the ground and running as Marvel and Disney continue to thrive with the web-slinger in the MCU. Considering how obscure a character Solo is, he would seem to be an odd choice to have his own feature film – although it does make some sense when you look deeper into who he is and what he can do. WHO IS SOLO? Solo, also known as James Bourne, works as a counter-terrorism operative and has a unique set of skills that could translate very well to film. He is a master hand-to-hand combatant, an expert marksman, and highly intelligent. He wears a bullet-proof quilted Kevlar type of armor for protection and uses conventional weapons and firearms, although he also has somewhat limited teleportation abilities thanks to his cybernetic implants. As of right now, the confirmed Solo movie is only for the Sony Spider-Verse and there is no indication of the character joining the MCU, similar to both Venom and Morbius. His rights are exclusive to Sony and are only useable in the Sony Spider-verse until further notice, but if he were to crossover into the MCU, we have some on ideas on exactly how it could work. THE SPIDER-VERSE NEEDS A HERO Solo’s inclusion in both the Spider-Verse and the MCU would make him the first actual hero to get his own solo movie. To be perfectly honest, it would be a nice change of pace for Sony to go this route, considering the studio is preparing to release a movie featuring a mad scientist turned demon vampire. This is on top of Venom, which features of one of Spider-Man’s biggest foes who has an incredibly similar power-set to the wall-crawler himself. As great of a character as Venom could potentially be in a film or series that actually features Spider-Man, Solo is a much more down to Earth character. That’s literally speaking, considering Venom is originated as a symbiotic life form coming from a comet in space. SOLO COULD WORK WITH NICK FURY AND BE NICK FURY One of the biggest reasons Solo could work so effectively in both the MCU and the Sony Spider-verse is his ability to adapt, adjust, and join in with a number of different superhero teams. After the events of Spider-Man: Far From Home, Peter Parker now has experience working with SHIELD, the on again/off again secret government organization always watching over the entire MCU, even considering the Skull twist in the end that showed Nick Fury in outer space for the time being. Solo could very conceivably be a part of SHIELD already or have the skills to join up with them in future movies, as his skill-set is perfect to match with the heroes and agents that SHIELD already has worked with so many times before. Solo has never worked with SHIELD in the comics, but that shouldn’t be a reason to not take that chance in the movies. Subsequently, while nobody knows when Nick Fury will return to Earth to take over for Talos, Solo could step in and almost take Fury’s place before Fury eventually returns to Earth. Now that the entire world knows Spider-Man’s secret identity thanks to one J.K. Simmons-portrayed J. Jonah Jameson, Peter is going to need all the help he can get keeping a low profile. Solo could come in to help him out with that, taking some of the public brunt of the PR disaster while Peter continues to operate as Spider-Man in the shadows. S.H.I.E.L.D. COULD BE THE BRIDGE BETWEEN BOTH UNIVERSES Without much of a connection between the MCU and Sony’s Spider-Verse outside of possibly Michael Keaton’s Vulture having a role in both universes (nothing has been confirmed on which character Keaton is playing in Morbius), the presence of SHIELD could help to unify everything. Solo has enough similar skills to Nick Fury and the rest of SHIELD to seamlessly blend in with the MCU, while also serving as a big enough solo hero to take on the threats emerging from the Sony villains. Obviously we will have to see what route they take Solo when the movie is made and released, but they do have good groundwork to run with if they want to make everything truly connect. Edited March 23, 2020 by Bosco685 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
