Are there pence titles for GA Books? 2 2

[Chicago Boy]

I don't remember seeing pence books discussed like I have in the Silver Age forum.....

Edited June 29, 2017 by Chicago Boy

[catman76]

1 hour ago, Chicago Boy said:

I don't remember seeing pence books discussed like I have in the Silver Age forum.....

I have some british comics from the 40s that are reprints of american comics, but they are totally different than the American versions, there's not just a price difference on the cover, they are british printings and almost always in black and white.

[Frisco Larson]

I don't have a raw copy & don't know if this is the exact same as the American issue.

[Frisco Larson]

I'd be pretty certain that the back cover is not the same.

 

[Frisco Larson]

I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for, but here it is anyway  

[Frisco Larson]

Back cover shot

[AJD]

Plenty of pence Australian copies out there:

 

[GermanFan]

Here is a book about UK Golden age books with US content:

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/British-1950s-SF-Horror-Comics-Book-By-MIKE-MORLEY-/222190489404?hash=item33bb95cf3c:g:5KoAAOSwl9BWIOn4

[jgallo]

There are no pence books for ga stuff in the same way there are for silver age books.  There were several companies in the uk and Australia that reprinted material with either new covers or altered covers.  At this point there seems to be limited interest in these books.

 

James G

[Robot Man]

American and British versions published at the same time.

[Point Five]

5 hours ago, jgallo said:

At this point there seems to be limited interest in these books.

Hmm, I would have to disagree with that. The best of the UK and Australian GA books have no trouble finding a market... think GGA covers, horror and scifi themes, Baker & LB Cole covers and what have you. They are cool-looking books and generally scarce in any grade. Check out GermanFan's book link above for some good examples.

It's probably more fair to say 'the market for these books is less robust than for their US counterparts'. Part of the problem is with so few copies of each issue surfacing, it's hard to find any sales data and to determine fair values for any one issue.
 

[N e r V]

5 hours ago, jgallo said:

There are no pence books for ga stuff in the same way there are for silver age books.  There were several companies in the uk and Australia that reprinted material with either new covers or altered covers.  At this point there seems to be limited interest in these books.

 

James G

I think that's what the poster was looking for. GA books that looked the same but with pence prices much like the Canadian versions of GA books. 

[AJD]

6 hours ago, Point Five said:

Hmm, I would have to disagree with that. The best of the UK and Australian GA books have no trouble finding a market... think GGA covers, horror and scifi themes, Baker & LB Cole covers and what have you. They are cool-looking books and generally scarce in any grade. Check out GermanFan's book link above for some good examples.

It's probably more fair to say 'the market for these books is less robust than for their US counterparts'. Part of the problem is with so few copies of each issue surfacing, it's hard to find any sales data and to determine fair values for any one issue.
 

Yes to all of that.

[jgallo]

9 hours ago, Robot Man said:

American and British versions published at the same time.

Hmm are the contents color and the same. Size looks a bit smaller.  I wonder how wide spread this was as i had never seen that before.

 

James G

[Yorick]

I'm trying to find some information regarding some L. Miller publications that have a printed copyright year of 1955, but were not printed in the US until 1956.  Did L. Miller flub their print copyright years?  If so, what reason would they have for doing that?

Any UK/British comics specialists here?

[AJD]

4 hours ago, Yorick said:

I'm trying to find some information regarding some L. Miller publications that have a printed copyright year of 1955, but were not printed in the US until 1956.  Did L. Miller flub their print copyright years?  If so, what reason would they have for doing that?

Any UK/British comics specialists here?

Paging @Get Marwood & I

[Get Marwood & I]

4 hours ago, AJD said:

9 hours ago, Yorick said:

I'm trying to find some information regarding some L. Miller publications that have a printed copyright year of 1955, but were not printed in the US until 1956.  Did L. Miller flub their print copyright years?  If so, what reason would they have for doing that?

Any UK/British comics specialists here?

Paging @Get Marwood & I

Yorick, could you post the actual books you are referring to?

I understand why The King of Australia flagged me (cheers Andy) but my own Miller investigations have focussed primarily on the 1959-70 period so I don't have much to add here I'm afraid. Information about Miller is fairly scant but it wouldn't surprise me to learn that he had bent the rules given some of the practices at the time I've read about (he was taken to court a time or two I believe - I'm looking into that as we speak to try to prove a certain scenario which I will post about if the National Records Office ever reopen). Or it could be a mistake - dates are often wrong on books around this time.

In general it's very difficult to research these things as there is so little to go on and everyone involved is either dead or uncontactable (I tried to get some Miller info via the Alan Class route but stopped when it became clear that he had little to impart). Add to that the extreme lack of physical comic examples and it becomes a frustrating pursuit. In respect of the original thread heading - "Are there pence titles for GA Books" - I have a folder populated with various examples which imply a price variant scenario. For me, there are two scenarios - books that were reprinted after the event with UK prices added (Reprints) and books which may have been produced at the same time, and in the same place, as the home country priced originals (Price Variants). 

Take this example - is this an example of an early "UK Price Variant"?

  

I had a nice PM discussion with Goldust Andy about it a while back and he was quite informative @goldust40 - maybe he has more to say about Miller too.

I have other such examples of books produced by Bell Features but have never managed to buy any of them to make a detailed comparison. Gold has never been my forte though, so hopefully someone else reading will be able to add more. I'd love to see the books in question though.

[AJD]

That Wonder Comics #8 certainly looks like a UK price variant. I wonder if it was printed as par of the original print run, with "6D in Gt. Bt." added (or maybe removed) as part of the overall print run? @Get Marwood & I - do you have any info about the indicia on that book?

[Get Marwood & I]

8 hours ago, AJD said:

That Wonder Comics #8 certainly looks like a UK price variant. I wonder if it was printed as par of the original print run, with "6D in Gt. Bt." added (or maybe removed) as part of the overall print run? @Get Marwood & I - do you have any info about the indicia on that book?

No, no internal images for that one I'm afraid Andy. It's one of the few Gold books I've seen where different versions exist though which seem to be from the original print state.

Some of these other Bell Feature examples in my folders seem to have the England printed price on all extant copies:

 

I'd like to know more about them, but have more or less parked any investigations while I concentrate on the Silver Age up. It would be nice, for example, to know which was the first ever comic to have part of its print run feature either a single or dual priced UK/GB/English copy. Maybe the Wonder Comics #8 is that book?

 

 

[Kevin.J]

Maybe interesting to look at Pulps of the time as I know I have seen a lot more Cents/Pence versions of those than GA comics, I know its a different ball game but maybe the publishers of the day had links ?