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14 hours ago, 50YrsCollctngCmcs said:

I always assumed the book is removed for grading and that the grader's do a detailed evaluation of the book including all pages. Not sure how having it in a holder could influence the grade; that doesn't sound right. 

I think I read some place that being in the slab presses the book to some extent.  So, if you re-grade it, the book gets the benefit of that press and might nudge it up a grade higher.  Not sure if that's true, but I wonder about it in cases like this one, where the grade went from 6.0 and 6.5.  Although, I also think that this shows the subjective nature of grading, especially for fine lines like 0.5 of a grade.

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Some Recent Books from CGC

Got some books back from CGC.  I've been looking for a nice copy of Rangers 28 for years. Finally found one here on the boards.  This is one of my favorite covers of Rangers.

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And, I got Young Love 4 to add to my GA photo covers collection.

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7 hours ago, n2wdw said:

I think I read some place that being in the slab presses the book to some extent.  So, if you re-grade it, the book gets the benefit of that press and might nudge it up a grade higher.  Not sure if that's true, but I wonder about it in cases like this one, where the grade went from 6.0 and 6.5.  Although, I also think that this shows the subjective nature of grading, especially for fine lines like 0.5 of a grade.

Interesting, I don't have a huge amount of slabbed books but I would be curious to try this!

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Serendipity and a Book for the Lady In White Collection

I'm always finding books I've never seen before when going through long boxes at cons, or surfing on the Internet.  Even today, after almost 50 years of collecting, it's still exciting to discover something new.  Serendipity is a big part of comic collecting!

That's how it is for me with the Lady in White collection.  I stumble onto books that fit the collection.  Here's a comic I discovered at Terry's con earlier this year in January.  Unexpected 127.  The dealer had a raw copy priced at $45.  I think he was surprised when I passed on it.  I would have bought it but I was unsure of the grade.

It went on my want list though, and a few months later, this graded copy appeared on eBay.  I got it for $90, a steal IMHO.  This way I didn't have to pay for grading, or risk getting a lower grade.  Thanks for reading.

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On 5/22/2019 at 5:22 AM, n2wdw said:

I think I read some place that being in the slab presses the book to some extent.  So, if you re-grade it, the book gets the benefit of that press and might nudge it up a grade higher.  Not sure if that's true, but I wonder about it in cases like this one, where the grade went from 6.0 and 6.5.  Although, I also think that this shows the subjective nature of grading, especially for fine lines like 0.5 of a grade.

My guess is slabbing a book and keeping it in its case for a number of years would flatten it, but wouldn't do anything to remove creases or bends.

I think on the website somewhere it states there’s a limit to the pressure the book is under inside the case because it needs to be able to move in the event the case is jarred. Too much pressure and the book will tear if the case is dropped or jarred in shipping.

That said I have a book that they rejected for pressing on account if it being too fragile.  I’m still scratching my head on it because pq was c/ow and the cover wasn’t brittle.  Book is an amazing looking Cgc 5.5.

That said the book had a noticeable stackers curl, and I plan to resub it in 5-10 years... will let you know then if it worked to straighten the book out....I think Cgc places a lot of emphasis on perfect flatness in their grading.

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8 hours ago, n2wdw said:

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You have such good taste... and then there was this.  Go get yourself a Frishmuth recasting of The Vine, and melt down that bronze (apologies in advance to the artist).

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On 6/12/2019 at 4:47 PM, Yorick said:

You have such good taste... and then there was this.  Go get yourself a Frishmuth recasting of The Vine, and melt down that bronze (apologies in advance to the artist).

This sculpture is actually important to me and my wife as we got it in Venice, as part of an anniversary.  But I get you, art is definitely a personal taste thing.

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12 hours ago, n2wdw said:

Big Ebay Actions Last Night!

There were so many great comic auctions closing last night on eBay.  I was bidding in 9 auctions.  If I won them all at my max bids, I would have been in for $7500.  My wife would've killed me, but I knew I wouldn't win them all, and if I won just one I'd be happy.

Most of the comics were higher grade Bakers and Ghost comics.  They were being offered by "dave.odell."  I don't know who this person is.  Is he liquidating his collection?  Right now at this moment, he doesn't have any other comics on eBay.  Maybe someone here knows him?

The first auction to close was Going Steady 10.  My max bid was $1000.  This isn't one of Baker's best covers (IMHO), so I thought I had a chance.  But it closed at $1675!   So clearly the big guns were out.  At that point, I was wondering if I'd win any of the auctions.

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But moments later I won my first auction, Teen-Age Romances 26.  My max bid was $250 and I got it for $190.  The win kinda shocked me, even though the multi-panel Baker covers generally go for less, and this was one of the lowest condition comics being offered by Mr. Odel. 

 

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Next up were the 2 prizes of the night, Going Steady 13 and TAR 44.  BTW, I'm focusing here on the books I needed for my collection.  Mr. Odel was offering some other comics that I wasn't bidding on (since I already had them). 

You rarely see these 2 comics for sale, and I love both covers.  I'd been thinking about going to a con later this summer (maybe Chicago).  But when I saw these comics go on sale last week, I decided to dumb the con plans and throw all my money into trying to win these books. 

So I put in max bids of $2000 for each of GS 13 and TAR 44.  I thought I had a realistic chance to win both.  But then GS 13 closed at $2705!

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I had a few minutes to think about TAR 44 before it closed.  I decided to raise my max bid from $2000 to $2500.  I knew ahead of time that I'd have buyer's remorse if I won it at my max bid, as then I would've spent more on TAR 44 than any other Baker (at the moment, the most I've paid for a Baker is $2352 for a 1.8 Blue GCE 12).  But I decided to go for it so as to try to win one of these grails.

And I won it!  And I got it for $1800, way below my max.  Although this is the second most I've paid for a Baker, sandwiched between GCE 12 and TAR 32.

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My evening wasn't done.  I didn't know it until I woke up this morning, but I also won Pep Comics 30.  With its chilling branding cover.  This definitely qualifies as a Dastardly GGA bondage cover.

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Pep was not being offered by Mr. Odel.  I did bid on 3 of his Ghost comics, but I put in relatively low max bids.  I couldn't go that high given how aggressive I was being with the Bakers (and also the Pep).  Thanks for reading.

I'm always challenged as a collector when too many books appear at once.  If I bid too strong, I'm in danger of spending too much.  If I bid lower on all the books, I never seem to win anything.  Tough balancing act.  Nice wins by the way.  That Pep cover is indeed gruesome...

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I've bought several books from Odell.  Nice ones. And yes, they were always released in large batches of good ones, and got a lot of bidding attention.  He sells out then disappears for awhile. then reappears with another batch. I saw this batch but didn't bid on anything.  Wonder if he's buying stuff or selling off his own collection.

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Modern Stuff

I know this thread is in the Gold section -- and most of my collecting focus in on gold nowadays, so that's why I placed the thread here -- but I still buy modern comics sometimes, so here's an update of what I've gotten lately. 

Recently I've been buying the Marvel comics with covers by Milo Manara. I'm a fan of his work and have most of his books.  I'm trying to collect a 9.8 run of his Marvel covers (and there are a few others, like from Dark Horse and Dynamite).  Pricing on these books are all over the place.  It's a free country so you can price books on eBay for whatever you want, but people who buy these books for $300+ just aren't paying attention.  I look for the auctions (rather than the high priced buy it nows), and regularly get them between $100 - $150, sometimes even less.  Here are a few from my collection:

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I also collect Gwen Stacy comics -- that is, key comics like ASM 31 and 121, and comics with Gwen covers.  It's a long story, but I grew up during the ASM story arc where Peter was dating Gwen, and I still haven't gotten over her death in 121.  Anyway, here are a couple of Gwen comics I've gotten lately.

 

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The best comic in my Gwen Stacy collection is this CGC SS signed by Emma Stone (who played Gwen in the movie):

 

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Over the years I've picked up some custom or limited product Gwen dolls, which I think are kinda cool.

 

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On another topic, recently I got this statue of the dragon from Bone.  It * is * REALLY * cool!

Thanks for reading.

 

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On 8/5/2019 at 8:55 AM, n2wdw said:

Big Ebay Actions Last Night!

There were so many great comic auctions closing last night on eBay.  I was bidding in 9 auctions.  If I won them all at my max bids, I would have been in for $7500.  My wife would've killed me, but I knew I wouldn't win them all, and if I won just one I'd be happy.

Most of the comics were higher grade Bakers and Ghost comics.  They were being offered by "dave.odell."  I don't know who this person is.  Is he liquidating his collection?  Right now at this moment, he doesn't have any other comics on eBay.  Maybe someone here knows him?

Next up were the 2 prizes of the night, Going Steady 13 and TAR 44.  BTW, I'm focusing here on the books I needed for my collection.  Mr. Odel was offering some other comics that I wasn't bidding on (since I already had them). 

You rarely see these 2 comics for sale, and I love both covers.  I'd been thinking about going to a con later this summer (maybe Chicago).  But when I saw these comics go on sale last week, I decided to dumb the con plans and throw all my money into trying to win these books. 

So I put in max bids of $2000 for each of GS 13 and TAR 44.  I thought I had a realistic chance to win both.  But then GS 13 closed at $2705!

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I had a few minutes to think about TAR 44 before it closed.  I decided to raise my max bid from $2000 to $2500.  I knew ahead of time that I'd have buyer's remorse if I won it at my max bid, as then I would've spent more on TAR 44 than any other Baker (at the moment, the most I've paid for a Baker is $2352 for a 1.8 Blue GCE 12).  But I decided to go for it so as to try to win one of these grails.

And I won it!  And I got it for $1800, way below my max.  Although this is the second most I've paid for a Baker, sandwiched between GCE 12 and TAR 32.

Bidding against another member (and winner):

 

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On 8/5/2019 at 8:55 AM, n2wdw said:

I had a few minutes to think about TAR 44 before it closed.  I decided to raise my max bid from $2000 to $2500.  I knew ahead of time that I'd have buyer's remorse if I won it at my max bid, as then I would've spent more on TAR 44 than any other Baker (at the moment, the most I've paid for a Baker is $2352 for a 1.8 Blue GCE 12).  But I decided to go for it so as to try to win one of these grails.

And I won it!  And I got it for $1800, way below my max.  Although this is the second most I've paid for a Baker, sandwiched between GCE 12 and TAR 32.

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What grade would you give the TAR #44?

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