ygogolak Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, NCAmother said: Why? The first print was made in Canada. Where do you think most comics are made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 On 8/9/2017 at 4:21 AM, oakman29 said: Watch out for snake oil salesmen. Rarity doesn't always go hand in hand with the sticker price. What I mean is they can ask whatever they want, but is someone going to buy at that price. ? I guarantee you that if you really want a DKR #1 4th print, and take the time to dig through long boxes, you'll find one for less than 20.00. It may take you years, but it's the thrill of the chase right? I personally would never pay that kind of price for such a book, but collectors are an odd breed, right! Watch out for snake oil salesmen. Rarity doesn't always go hand in hand with the sticker price. it's the thrill of the chase. collectors are an odd breed. There, I broke it down to bullet points for ya! oakman29 and NCAmother 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 52 minutes ago, ygogolak said: Where do you think most comics are made? Iceland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakman29 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 1 hour ago, divad said: Watch out for snake oil salesmen. Rarity doesn't always go hand in hand with the sticker price. it's the thrill of the chase. collectors are an odd breed. There, I broke it down to bullet points for ya! Thanks for that, no really thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygogolak Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 10 hours ago, divad said: Iceland? Only the staples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 On 2017-08-09 at 6:58 AM, NCAmother said: That's what I've seen on eBay, $2,000 for a 9.0 I just got back into collecting a year ago, I don't remember rarity in reprints but I guess it's changing?? According to GPA, a 9.8 copy sold for $425 in September 2015. That's also the only CGC copy sold of the 4th print. BA773 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 So...does ANYONE have any idea when this was made, and why? "Made in China" is a clue. The book being saddle-stitched is another clue. This was not made in 1986. Clearly. There were three printings made in 1986 of #1, three of #2, two of #3, and one #4. All of them are squarebound. Was this included with a toy, is it a reprint for a special event, what...? Anyone? It's very rare that you run across a book from the 80's that neither I, nor Donut, have seen or know about. WolverineX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) Certification Information for the copy that sold indicates it was printed in 1986, unless that simply refers to original date of print? Certification Information Certification #: 1304031005 Title: Batman: The Dark Knight Returns Issue: 1 Issue Date: 3/86 Issue Year: 1986 Publisher: D.C. Comics Grade: 9.8 Total Graded At: 1 Page Quality: WHITE Grade Date: 06/09/2015 Variant: Fourth Printing Category: Modern Art Comments: Frank Miller story & cover Frank Miller & Klaus Janson art Key Comments: 1st appearance of Carrie Kelly. Grader Notes: None Available Edited August 13, 2017 by John R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Yes, it refers to the original date of publication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCAmother Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share Posted August 13, 2017 10 hours ago, RockMyAmadeus said: Yes, it refers to the original date of publication. Interesting that it went thru four printings in the same month. Cover paper is different than the first printing, it's similar thick card stock but it's matte and almost chalky looking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, NCAmother said: Interesting that it went thru four printings in the same month. Cover paper is different than the first printing, it's similar thick card stock but it's matte and almost chalky looking It didn't go through four printings in the same month. The month on the label is the date of publication, not the date of printing. Much like a regular book, the date of publication doesn't change with subsequent printings. NCAmother 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCAmother Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share Posted August 13, 2017 1 hour ago, RockMyAmadeus said: It didn't go through four printings in the same month. The month on the label is the date of publication, not the date of printing. Much like a regular book, the date of publication doesn't change with subsequent printings. Oh, ok. Wonder when it was printed then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCAmother Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share Posted August 13, 2017 Here are pics I took of the inside of the cover and splash page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzafist Posted August 15, 2017 Share Posted August 15, 2017 I read about a BTDKR #1 4th printing on mycomicship well over a decade ago and laughed, thinking it was an error in their data base. I found my first one a few years ago and scooped it up as a BIG BTDKR collector. I am always hunting for this book and learning more about BTDKR as much as I can. I can tell you they are extremely rare . NCAmother 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCAmother Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 So AJ at recalled.com ( a cool resource for rare printings) had this to say about the DKR #1 4th printing: Hi, Many thanks for getting in touch. Although this comic was a 4th printing I'm sure DC would not have re-printed a small volume of these back in 1986 (it would have had to have been profitable to re-print this again) so I would guess they were printed in the thousands at the time. There are certainly a few available for maybe $10 upwards depending on condition and their value probably explains the lack of numbers in the CGC census (i.e. a 4th printing is maybe not something worth grading unless it has significant value). However, it is certainly likely that the 4th print is rarer than the other prints so there would probably be fewer of them around today compared to earlier printings. Kind regards AJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 1 hour ago, NCAmother said: So AJ at recalled.com ( a cool bad resource for rare printings accurate information) had this to say about the DKR #1 4th printing: Hi, Many thanks for getting in touch. Although this comic was a 4th printing I'm sure DC would not have re-printed a small volume of these back in 1986 (it would have had to have been profitable to re-print this again) so I would guess they were printed in the thousands at the time. There are certainly a few available for maybe $10 upwards depending on condition and their value probably explains the lack of numbers in the CGC census (i.e. a 4th printing is maybe not something worth grading unless it has significant value). However, it is certainly likely that the 4th print is rarer than the other prints so there would probably be fewer of them around today compared to earlier printings. Kind regards AJ Fixed. (I assume that is supposed to be recalledcomics.com) On 8/12/2017 at 10:53 PM, RockMyAmadeus said: So...does ANYONE have any idea when this was made, and why? "Made in China" is a clue. The book being saddle-stitched is another clue. The GST# (being published) and DC's address are also clues. But I don't know when or why this printing was made. NCAmother and BA773 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCAmother Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 12 hours ago, Lazyboy said: Fixed. (I assume that is supposed to be recalledcomics.com) The GST# (being published) and DC's address are also clues. But I don't know when or why this printing was made. I had no idea they had such a bad reputation, I noticed CGC numbers didn't correlate with their numbers. The MYSTERY CONTINUES!!!!! Thanks Lazyboy! BA773 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCAmother Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 Lazyboy, what exactly is a GST? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababooey Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, NCAmother said: Lazyboy, what exactly is a GST? Cheers A Federal value added tax that didn't exist in Canada until 1991. Edited August 23, 2017 by bababooey clarity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comix4fun Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 On 8/15/2017 at 0:02 PM, Pizzafist said: I read about a BTDKR #1 4th printing on mycomicship well over a decade ago and laughed, thinking it was an error in their data base. I found my first one a few years ago and scooped it up as a BIG BTDKR collector. I am always hunting for this book and learning more about BTDKR as much as I can. I can tell you they are extremely rare . Here's another one to go chase....or maybe it's the same one. ygogolak, NCAmother and oakman29 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
