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JOKER: THE MOVIE produced by Martin Scorsese (TBD)
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Remember that Gary Glitter soundtrack controversy? Yeah. Not so much. Los Angeles Times looked into this just recently.

Will a convicted pedophile make a fortune from a ‘Joker’ song?

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For “Joker,” much of the criticism is centered on assumptions that Glitter was personally profiting from its use in the film, but Glitter sold away all his rights to the recording and publishing of “Rock and Roll Part 2,” co-written by the late Mike Leander, as well as his other songs more than two decades ago, according to Snapper Music, the London-based label that now owns Glitter’s master recordings.

Of course you won't see any retractions from sources like The Hollywood Reporter, Deadline, Times or CNN.

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21 minutes ago, Wally's Comics said:

My favorite Joker will always be Mark Hamill.

Matter O'fact, he did the character so well, I really don't see this actor as "Luke" any more.

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Mark Hamill really owned the role for sure. But even he supports this film as a fan of the character.

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21 hours ago, zhamlau said:

So its doing all of this, without pumped up China-cash? Its still not opening there?

Most likely won't, as Deadpool didn't open there. The Joker seems even more controversial than Deadpool. A shame because if Joker opened in China we are easily looking at Joker doing 1 billion box office.

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57 minutes ago, ComicConnoisseur said:

Most likely won't, as Deadpool didn't open there. The Joker seems even more controversial than Deadpool. A shame because if Joker opened in China we are easily looking at Joker doing 1 billion box office.

Aquaman benefited massively due to China's incredible strong response ($298.3 million). It very much is a huge gap not having that market open to a Joker release.

 

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15 hours ago, Jaydogrules said:

I stated my reasons several pages back.  In a nutshell ...

The messaging of the movie is offensive.  Blaming "society"/"the man" for being un-accomplished loser in your mid 40's, twirling a sign on street corners, getting beaten up by teenagers and super scary businessmen, is a massive turn off.  The idea of this pansy becoming a super villain to rival Batman is preposterous.  Throwing in some alleged "mental illness" to further excuse/explain murderous behaviour is also offensive in its own right. 

The pacing of the film was bad.  The dialogue mostly pedestrian. Comparing this to Taxi driver is obvious, but off the mark.  This is the movie that Taxi Driver and King of comedy ate for dinner last night along with some bad weed and tequila, and diaharreahed out the next morning.  

-J.

As I suspected, You didn't like it because you thought it was political and it was politics you didnt like. Not because it is a "bad" movie. And it's not a matter of blame society, he is batshyt crazy. Hallucinations. Out of his mind. With brief moments of lucidity. He brutally murders one of the people who was decent to him. Another broke clown. Maybe they should make a movie about how poor seriously mentally ill people just need to get their shyt together and be more like billionairre real estate developers who inherited $400 million from dad?

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‘Joker’ Set New Box Office Milestones By Being All Things To (Almost) All Moviegoers

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Joker earned a robust $55 million in its second domestic weekend, along with $123 million overseas. That’s a 43% drop in North America (a better hold than the second weekends for Wonder Woman and Black Panther) and a mere 29% drop overseas, giving Warner Bros.’ $60 million, R-rated grimdark drama a ridiculous $192.7 million domestic and $543.9 million global cume. It has now earned just 35.4% of its total in North America, compared with 38.7% as of the end of its opening weekend. The secret to its success, in a nutshell, is that it is serving as a one-size-fits-all cinematic offering. For better or worse, Todd Phillips and Joaquin Phoenix’s Joker is all things to (almost) all audiences.

 

It’s the big comic book/franchise movie of the season.

 

First, obviously, it’s the big franchise-friendly comic book flick of the season. Back when Sony first made the choice to go with a PG-13 for Venom, I argued (correctly, as it would turn out) that it was the right call because most of its competition (A Star Is Born, Halloween, Bohemian Rhapsody) was aimed at adults and/or R-rated. One of the reasons the Tom Hardy flick stuck around after its $80 million debut, to the point where it was leggier than Logan ($229 million from an $88 million debut), It ($327 million from a $123 million launch) or Deadpool 2 ($318 million from a $125.5 million opening), was that it was the big four-quadrant/superhero/tentpole flick of the moment.

 

Had the poorly-reviewed but commercially-embraced Spider-Verse movie gone with an R-rating and/or emphasized the horror elements, it would have simply been one of a handful of major/high profile R-rated and/or adult-skewing flicks in a pre-holiday season. But by going for the “all ages PG-13” slot, it was somewhat unique unto itself amid the first two months of Fall. With Fox’s Dark Phoenix shifting to June of 2019 and Warner Bros.’ Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald being a “for hardcore fans only… if that” affair, Venom was the go-to conventional blockbuster until DC Films’ Aquaman in late December. Cue a $213 million domestic and (thanks to China) $854 million worldwide cume on a $90 million budget.

 

No, it’s not as four-quadrant as Venom, but it might as well be with these grosses. It is also the A Star Is Born/Gone Girl of the season while acting as the Annabelle/Halloween of the moment. Maleficent: Mistress of Evil isn’t for horror and Zombieland: Double Tap is aiming for laughs over frights. It could pass It domestically ($327 million in 2017) and Gravity worldwide ($723 million in 2013) to become the biggest grosser ever for this post-summer/pre-holiday season.

 

Joker is a comic book movie for folks who don’t like comic book movies, an adult drama for audiences not inclined to sample an adult drama in theaters and a scary movie for those not looking for a seasonal fright.

 

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4 hours ago, Hollywood1892 said:

Exactly 

What I got a kick out of was how a good number of old time comic fans misjudged how both popular Venom and Joker were. They kept saying both Venom and the Joker movies would bomb because Spider-Man and Batman were not in them. They misjudged how popular Venom and the Joker characters are.

I will go out on a limb and say the Birds of Prey will be a major hit as well.

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9 minutes ago, ComicConnoisseur said:

What I got a kick out of was how a good number of old time comic fans misjudged how both popular Venom and Joker were. They kept saying both Venom and the Joker movies would bomb because Spider-Man and Batman were not in them. They misjudged how popular Venom and the Joker characters are.

I will go out on a limb and say the Birds of Prey will be a major hit as well.

But Suicide squad wasnt so much.

Venom is a major draw...

Jokers origin was intriguing 

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8 minutes ago, Hollywood1892 said:

But Suicide squad wasnt so much.

Venom is a major draw...

Jokers origin was intriguing 

Agreed  and that`s why the Birds of Prey will be the Harley Quinn show.

Margot Robbie will strike a chord in modern audiences like Joaquin Phoenix did in Joker.

The two hottest characters in the DC Universe with modern audiences now are the Joker and Harley Quinn.

Sorry Superman fans. lol.

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4 minutes ago, ComicConnoisseur said:

Agreed  and that`s why the Birds of Prey will be the Harley Quinn show.

Margot Robbie will strike a chord in modern audiences like Joaquin Phoenix did in Joker.

The two hottest characters in the DC Universe with modern audiences now are the Joker and Harley Quinn.

Sorry Superman fans. lol.

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wasn't all that thrilled with the preview shown for  Birds of Prey - not that it's any indication of whatever the film turns out to be.  i did like Margot's Harley portrayal in the Suicide Squad movie.  This has nothing to do with comics, but they also showed a preview for a movie based on Harriet Tubman's life which looked quite good.

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