kav Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 12 hours ago, lizards2 said: 13 hours ago, kav said: I hate PGX do you actually buy anything from any of the grading companies? I'm gonna buy something so I can more properly excoriate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Just now, kav said: 12 hours ago, lizards2 said: 13 hours ago, kav said: I hate PGX do you actually buy anything from any of the grading companies? I'm gonna buy something so I can more properly excoriate them. That's what I thought. You appear to be in good company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmay Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 batman 160 pgx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 minute ago, lizards2 said: That's what I thought. You appear to be in good company. Once I buy a PGX slab I'm really going to town on them!! GET READY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Pontoon Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 18 minutes ago, Timmay said: batman 160 pgx No comprendo how it's taken a bath. Asking price is way high, above what CGC slabs seem to be fetching. Maybe the OP meant a different listing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, Pontoon said: 25 minutes ago, Timmay said: batman 160 pgx No comprendo how it's taken a bath. Asking price is way high, above what CGC slabs seem to be fetching. Maybe the OP meant a different listing? It looks like the top edge has water damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Just now, lizards2 said: It looks like the top edge has water damage. that runs thru entire book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicquant Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Just now, YouCouldntBeDumber said: You've got a lot to learn. I've bought enough Voldy books and subbed them to CGC to know they over grade... You may have misinterpreted what I meant by trusting their grades. Nice screen name. 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zosocane Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 50 minutes ago, Timmay said: batman 160 pgx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicquant Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 5 minutes ago, lizards2 said: Voldy slabs need more camo in their outer well to hide most everything. They should just glue an image of a cgc graded book to the front of the slab. When I went to WW Chicago looking for high grade ASM the only books I could find were in Voldy cases which I obviously passed on. Talking with vendors, some of them said they're hard to move because of over grading. There was a Voldy 9.4 ASM #31 for $4300 and it was MAYBE a CGC 9.0. It was laughable. 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Just now, comicquant said: They should just glue an image of a cgc graded book to the front of the slab. When I went to WW Chicago looking for high grade ASM the only books I could find were in Voldy cases which I obviously passed on. Talking with vendors, some of them said they're hard to move because of over grading. There was a Voldy 9.4 ASM #31 for $4300 and it was MAYBE a CGC 9.0. It was laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 58 minutes ago, comicquant said: They should just glue an image of a cgc graded book to the front of the slab. When I went to WW Chicago looking for high grade ASM the only books I could find were in Voldy cases which I obviously passed on. Talking with vendors, some of them said they're hard to move because of over grading. There was a Voldy 9.4 ASM #31 for $4300 and it was MAYBE a CGC 9.0. It was laughable. So the vendors waste money getting their books overgraded so they will sell slower. Got it. That makes almost as much sense as someone buying books they know to be overgraded just to send them to Sarasota so they can be properly graded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 58 minutes ago, comicquant said: They should just glue an image of a cgc graded book to the front of the slab. When I went to WW Chicago looking for high grade ASM the only books I could find were in Voldy cases which I obviously passed on. Talking with vendors, some of them said they're hard to move because of over grading. There was a Voldy 9.4 ASM #31 for $4300 and it was MAYBE a CGC 9.0. It was laughable. So the vendors waste money getting their books overgraded so they will sell slower. Got it. That makes almost as much sense as someone buying books they know to be overgraded just to send them to Sarasota so they can be properly graded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmay Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Pontoon said: 2 hours ago, Timmay said: batman 160 pgx No comprendo how it's taken a bath. Asking price is way high, above what CGC slabs seem to be fetching. Maybe the OP meant a different listing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicquant Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, shadroch said: So the vendors waste money getting their books overgraded so they will sell slower. Got it. That makes almost as much sense as someone buying books they know to be overgraded just to send them to Sarasota so they can be properly graded. Whether it makes sense to you or not is irrelevant... This is what they say; many of them. Not only are they slow to move, but when they do sell many times its not for what same grade CGC book gets. Ask some of the dealers in this forum. Which books move faster, Voldy or CGC? Ask dealers in the Voldy forum. Pretty sure its no secret. The Voldy slabs I bought were purchased within the first two months I came back to collecting after stopping in the 90's. Once I began focusing on an ASM run I sent in the Voldy spideys to CGC and they all came back less than they went in. Thanks for playing 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 4 hours ago, Aweandlorder said: The fact that we can plaster PGX's name all over these boards and cannot do the same with Voldi IS proof that they are not on the same level Yes, I have often wondered why this is so. The new Boards are automated to catch any reference to the real Voldi name and it will not be posted. I can understand not allowing pics of their slabs but to simply state their name, puzzling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I think the answer is fairly obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grube09 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, comicquant said: Whether it makes sense to you or not is irrelevant... This is what they say; many of them. Not only are they slow to move, but when they do sell many times its not for what same grade CGC book gets. Ask some of the dealers in this forum. Which books move faster, Voldy or CGC? Ask dealers in the Voldy forum. Pretty sure its no secret. The Voldy slabs I bought were purchased within the first two months I came back to collecting after stopping in the 90's. Once I began focusing on an ASM run I sent in the Voldy spideys to CGC and they all came back less than they went in. Thanks for playing I've heard you can expect 10-15% lower prices from a Voldy slab. I have no facts to present...that's just what I've heard from some dealers. That was about a year ago, so I don't know if much has changed. I will say I sent 2 CGC graded early Hulk's to Voldy to be regraded and my grades came back lower (1/2 point and 1 full point lower on the two books I sent in). For a mid-grade book, I wouldn't hesitate to buy a Voldy slab. If I were purchasing a high grade (9.0+), I would go with CGC. Just a personal preference at this point in time. I would never go with PGX. Edited September 13, 2017 by grube09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbone911t Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Never had a CGC 9.9 BUT PGX ...........things that make you say hmmmmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1950's war comics Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I would never purchase a brand eccch slab,... from either company !!! they are both equal to each other,...and inferior to CGC, i don't care if the former grader at CGC now grades brand ecch, its not the same FoggyNelson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
