1950's war comics Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I have seen a couple first hand examples just in my lifetime of a family business that was destroyed because one of the sons thought he could go off on his own and steal customers from his dad... one was was a family run electrical company , handed down a generation from grandpa and in business for many years ..... the wayward son took knowledge and contacts learned from dad and left to form his own electrical company and tried to steal dads customers ... it destroyed the whole family.. they will not talk to each other to this day and left both companies worse off FoggyNelson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Collector Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 20 hours ago, mosconi said: Hey Steve, I started a topic on their infamous Jack Kirby and Steve Ditko "signature series" book's about a year ago You may have missed it, but buyer beware: what is the story behind these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr. Zipper Posted September 14, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2017 2 hours ago, 1950's war comics said: they are both equal to each other,... One may reasonably disagree with their standards, but the distinguished competition is staffed by reputable, well-known people who provide a credible service. It's wrong to equate them with a company of unknowns with zero transparency and a long and checkered history. The-Collector, grube09, thehumantorch and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 2 hours ago, 1950's war comics said: I have seen a couple first hand examples just in my lifetime of a family business that was destroyed because one of the sons thought he could go off on his own and steal customers from his dad... one was was a family run electrical company , handed down a generation from grandpa and in business for many years ..... the wayward son took knowledge and contacts learned from dad and left to form his own electrical company and tried to steal dads customers ... it destroyed the whole family.. they will not talk to each other to this day and left both companies worse off I don't think that situation happened here ? In all honesty, I think the hobby is better off with competition. F For Fake and grube09 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cortown71 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Is there a register for pgx? How many 10s have they given out? I'll admit to owning a few pgx's nothing spectacular or expensive cept for maybe my GRR FF 1. Grades seem to be in line.only thing I would say is of all of that I have,none have newton rings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 15 minutes ago, Bomber-Bob said: I don't think that situation happened here ? In all honesty, I think the hobby is better off with competition. no way man, monopoly is the most efficient system, and it's always the best for us lowly consumers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Just now, lizards2 said: no way man, monopoly is the most efficient system, and it's always the best for us lowly consumers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 For all we know, the ownership of both companies might be the same, or at least overlap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, shadroch said: For all we know, the ownership of both companies might be the same, or at least overlap. Wow, now there's a thought. While I totally agree that PGX is not a real grading company and should be avoided, the other company is legitimate. I really don't understand why some here have so much contempt for the other company. It's not like it's good vs evil and you have to take sides. Quicksilver Signs, F For Fake and thehumantorch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaard Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 19 minutes ago, Bomber-Bob said: Wow, now there's a thought. While I totally agree that PGX is not a real grading company and should be avoided, the other company is legitimate. I really don't understand why some here have so much contempt for the other company. It's not like it's good vs evil and you have to take sides. +1 Just because you like one more than the other, doesn't mean you have to dislike the other one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Collector Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 22 minutes ago, Gaard said: +1 Just because you like one more than the other, doesn't mean you have to dislike the other one. Seeing as this is the CGC boards I would expect some favoritism here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 You can only have one best girl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1950's war comics Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, The-Collector said: Seeing as this is the CGC boards I would expect some favoritism here. Yeah no kidding ! this is the CGC chat board! the one and only comic chat board and grading company as far as many of us are concerned !! we are neither of the branch echh s out there lets all repeat .. CGC is ..... Edited September 14, 2017 by 1950's war comics The-Collector and FoggyNelson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr. Zipper Posted September 14, 2017 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2017 10 hours ago, The-Collector said: Seeing as this is the CGC boards I would expect some favoritism here. Favoritism is fine. But equating the distinguished competition to an outfit with a long history of questionable behavior and serious ethics issues is a bit much. Bomber-Bob, F For Fake, thehumantorch and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Collector Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 10 minutes ago, Mr. Zipper said: Favoritism is fine. But equating the distinguished competition to an outfit with a long history of questionable behavior and serious ethics issues is a bit much. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 2 hours ago, 1950's war comics said: Yeah no kidding ! this is the CGC chat board! the one and only comic chat board and grading company as far as many of us are concerned !! we are neither of the branch echh s out there lets all repeat .. CGC is ..... No argument about PGX, I understand and concur about them. CGC is obviously the bigger and better company. I can understand why you would prefer them. But please help me understand why you are hating on Voldi so much? Did you have a specific experience or are you simply jumping on the bandwagon here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1950's war comics Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bomber-Bob said: No argument about PGX, I understand and concur about them. CGC is obviously the bigger and better company. I can understand why you would prefer them. But please help me understand why you are hating on Voldi so much? Did you have a specific experience or are you simply jumping on the bandwagon here. What few brand echh from the new start up company that i have looked at looked inferior to the same grade as CGC.. i love CGC, i have spent about 4 minutes on the brand echh chat boards but if i were to hang out there more often i would not be bragging about how CGC is their equal ........ no i would not have the audacity to do that nor to post facepalm emoji 's when a dealer like tomorrows treasure whom vehemently railed against CGC and then all of a sudden gets most his stock graded by brand echhh i read between the lines, he did not initially get the stated grades that he wanted from CGC so he stayed raw and hated on CGC,.....and then when a new company starts up suddenly he's all in....hmmmmmm FoggyNelson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Zipper Posted September 14, 2017 Author Share Posted September 14, 2017 12 minutes ago, 1950's war comics said: when a dealer like tomorrows treasure whom vehemently railed against CGC and then all of a sudden gets most his stock graded by brand echhh i read between the lines, he did not initially get the stated grades that he wanted from CGC so he stayed raw and hated on CGC,.....and then when a new company starts up suddenly he's all in....hmmmmmm From what I've heard from reliable sources, it was due to the others company's policy on noting conservation vs. restoration. For the record, I'm not a fan of Richie Muchin. He burned me on a Sgt. Fury 1 and Hulk 6 with undisclosed restoration -- NOT conservation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackenzie999 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) I have one great suggestion for PGX, or really any of the SlabCos: unlabeled slabbing. I bet they'd make a fortune off that. If the price was right I bet a lot of people would submit just for the protective quality, not to mention appealing to the varying levels of OCD many collectors have. I'd like all my books slabbed but many of them are simply not worth it, but for maybe $5 each I'd submit them all. I suppose this opens the door to fraud, so they'd have to protect against that somehow. Edited September 14, 2017 by Mackenzie999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, Mackenzie999 said: I have one great suggestion for PGX, or really any of the SlabCos: unlabeled slabbing. I bet they'd make a fortune off that. If the price was right I bet a lot of people would submit just for the protective quality, not to mention appealing to the varying levels of OCD many collectors have. I'd like all my non-readers slabbed but many of them are simply not worth it, but for maybe $5 each I'd submit them all. I do agree, it would be cool, but....I think the cost of the slab would prohibit a $5 each level. I'm just guessing they would be at the $15 level to break even, probably $20 to make a nominal profit. Add the cost of shipping and the fact that the slabs are heavy and it's just not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
