Old_Man_Adam Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 I’m a huge fan of sinestro and picked this up at a really good price , however there is slight color tough in the bottom right corner ( in green pen?) the dealer let me know of the blemish , so this wasn’t a surprise . The pen ( or marker ) DOESN’T bleed through , would you recommend me sending it to CCS for renovation repairs ? Any positive or negative experiences ? Any input would be greatly appreciated thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Old_Man_Adam said: I’m a huge fan of sinestro and picked this up at a really good price , however there is slight color tough in the bottom right corner ( in green pen?) the dealer let me know of the blemish , so this wasn’t a surprise . The pen ( or marker ) DOESN’T bleed through , would you recommend me sending it to CCS for renovation repairs ? Any positive or negative experiences ? Any input would be greatly appreciated thanks I currently can't see your pic because there is some maintenance migration going on. However, two comments. Depending on what type of ink was used, removal may require literally scraping it off. This results, IMO, in a very fugly looking book, ruins any eye appeal. Second, it often happens that when a book is color touched, they will often perform other restoration such as trimming, tear seal, etc. Personally, I would not have bought the book. I hope the dealer gave you a BIG discount. The marketplace still frowns upon restored books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_Man_Adam Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 Thanks - would you still recommend a pressing , or should I️ just cut my losses ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicjack Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 I would just be happy the way it is could cause more damage in the long run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FineCollector Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 If you like the way it looks, leave it raw in a mylar and enjoy it. Sounds like you're happy with it, so don't ruin it with a restored label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 7 hours ago, Old_Man_Adam said: Thanks - would you still recommend a pressing , or should I️ just cut my losses ? I still can't see the pics so I don't even know what book we are talking about as you didn't mention it in the text though I think it is a GL 7 ? I would not waste any more money on the book. IMO, pressing a restored book will yield minimal return, if any. As FineCollector states above, just leave it in mylar. Trust me, you will not be happy with a Purple label slab. Old_Man_Adam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjpb Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Unrestored it looks like it could maybe be a 5.0 or so, which is around a $400 book from what I can tell, and gets little added value from being slabbed in that grade. If you sent it in for resto assessment and it turned out the green could be removed from the color breaking creases with minimal scraping, and that was the only resto, it could still bring the grade down an increment, and it's unclear that the cost would make it all that worthwhile. If it's for your collection, it might be worth considering if the thought of minor resto bothers you more than the reduced eye-appeal from removing it. Personally I wouldn't bother, I've got a few books with minor ct sitting in mylar that I was happy to get for a relative bargain, and they look just fine to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoomanfoo Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 On 11/12/2017 at 12:41 PM, Bomber-Bob said: I still can't see the pics so I don't even know what book we are talking about as you didn't mention it in the text though I think it is a GL 7 ? I would not waste any more money on the book. IMO, pressing a restored book will yield minimal return, if any. As FineCollector states above, just leave it in mylar. Trust me, you will not be happy with a Purple label slab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoomanfoo Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) That's an overall nice book and if you got it for a really good price then I don't see any major resto there that can't be scraped of or out. I personally would rather have a lower grade no resto...then again I would never keep a resto book unless it was like FF #1 or something of that caliber. Edited November 15, 2017 by Obi-Wan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony S Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 As you say, no bleed through. I think sending it to CCS for evaluation for both restoration removal and pressing is a good idea. That way you will actually know if it's practical to remove the CT. Just pay attention to your total costs. Shoomanfoo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_Man_Adam Posted November 15, 2017 Author Share Posted November 15, 2017 I️ think I’m gonna pull the trigger on sending to CCS - they are at a local convention here in Edison NJ this weekend - I’m going there anyway to browse and grab a few signatures anyway ... thanks for all the advice! Shoomanfoo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_Man_Adam Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 So I sent it to get worked on , I didn’t press it as I usually do , but ended up with a blue label 5.5 - expensive process - but I feel pretty good about how it all turned out - you can see the line removed on the bottom right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempus Fugit Posted January 4, 2018 Share Posted January 4, 2018 Looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_Man_Adam Posted January 4, 2018 Author Share Posted January 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tempus Fugit said: Looks great! Thanks ! Maybe a bit under graded - but some TLC at a later date can take care of that - on wards and upwards ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorb3t Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Nice looking 5.5. Looks like you got a good result. I've been considering the same thing with a few books with "slight color touch" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 1 hour ago, sorb3t said: Nice looking 5.5. Looks like you got a good result. I've been considering the same thing with a few books with "slight color touch" Sorry but, IMO, the color scrape is obvious. The crease is big and pronounced, probably the reason for the CT in the first place. Color scrapes always look so 'white' with the width and depth of the crease even bigger than the original. The book is 57 years old, let it age gracefully. I honestly don't understand how scraping material from a comic is not an Apparent Grade. The reason they give trimming an apparent grade is because something was removed. How is this any different ? Alf Pogs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorb3t Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 Looks like a color breaking fold now. I have a few of those in my collection. I would imagine the graders can't say with absolute certainty that the "scrape" is CT removal or was caused when the comic was "out in the wilds" being read and such, so they can't give it an Apparent Grade, whereas an edge trim seems pretty obvious/deliberate. I guess it would be fun to think of innocent ways an edge could get trimmed. "I accidentally set my comic down on top of a piece of wood *right* as it was going through a band saw, and the edge was cut right off! It's not intentional edge trimming." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 8 minutes ago, sorb3t said: Looks like a color breaking fold now. I have a few of those in my collection. I would imagine the graders can't say with absolute certainty that the "scrape" is CT removal or was caused when the comic was "out in the wilds" being read and such, so they can't give it an Apparent Grade, whereas an edge trim seems pretty obvious/deliberate. I guess it would be fun to think of innocent ways an edge could get trimmed. "I accidentally set my comic down on top of a piece of wood *right* as it was going through a band saw, and the edge was cut right off! It's not intentional edge trimming." HaHa. I know with Color Touch, CGC does look at intent, and considers accidents like a pen falling from your hand. You could say you did it while removing the book from the inner well, sliced the edge right off . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomber-Bob Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) I once owned a major Marvel key with a Restored grade of 7.5 from Glue holding a chip. I had CGC remove the glue, and hence the chip fell out. I thought the grade would stay the same because it would be regarded as a Marvel chip but it went down to 7.0 . I resubbed two more times, every time getting a 7.0 . Anyway, the fact that the book had work done on it weighed on me. Every time I looked at that book my eye went right for the chip and I thought about the chip removal. The love affair with this book was over and I moved it. It just wasn't the same any longer. I suspect the OP may feel the same. Edited January 23, 2018 by Bomber-Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old_Man_Adam Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 I concur - it does look obvious and I can’t look at the comic without noticing it , that being said - I’m happy to own a FA of Sinestro at an affordale price , if I do decide to move it - perhaps it will be easier at this point as there are no obvious alterations ? Regarding CGC , I always found it peculiar that a date stamp or name written on a comic isn’t an alteration , but a straight pen mark is . Lastly , I can’t let it age gracefully - because prior to I always looked at the green pen mark - but I digress , I’m happy - for now .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
