BLACK WIDOW: THE MOVIE (TBD)
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On 9/23/2020 at 12:25 PM, paperheart said:

fait accompli after Tenet

It appears that I'm going to be watching a lot more TV Shows on Netflix.

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All of the content developers will be moving this way in the future. Why let the theatre chains take a piece of the action when you can get people to subscribe to your streaming channel and/or purchase the movie to stream instead? What Disney, AT&T and others should do is lower the price on ordering the movie early. Instead of $30, price it at $7.99 or $9.99. At that price point, significantly more subscribers will bite the bullet to see the movie upon release, and it will provide more incentive for investors to finance films. The point of a streaming service is recurring revenue. As long as investors can generate an acceptable rate of return then Disney/AT&T/etc. will be laughing - get others to finance the content that drives more consumers to subscribe to your platform while enabling you to keep a larger % of the PVOD take since there are no middle companies (i.e. theatre chains) in between. Heck, the investors may prefer this as well as they could end up negotiating a higher % of the return.

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33 minutes ago, kimik said:

All of the content developers will be moving this way in the future. Why let the theatre chains take a piece of the action when you can get people to subscribe to your streaming channel and/or purchase the movie to stream instead? What Disney, AT&T and others should do is lower the price on ordering the movie early. Instead of $30, price it at $7.99 or $9.99. At that price point, significantly more subscribers will bite the bullet to see the movie upon release, and it will provide more incentive for investors to finance films. The point of a streaming service is recurring revenue. As long as investors can generate an acceptable rate of return then Disney/AT&T/etc. will be laughing - get others to finance the content that drives more consumers to subscribe to your platform while enabling you to keep a larger % of the PVOD take since there are no middle companies (i.e. theatre chains) in between. Heck, the investors may prefer this as well as they could end up negotiating a higher % of the return.

For us MCU fans, that's cool for the smaller character pieces we'll see on Disney+. But if we want to keep getting the bigger solo adventures and Avengers level films, the theaters have to come back. Those huge box office returns are what really fuel the MCU. We as a society need to get this virus thing under control so the economy and the movie theaters can return. This isn't good for anybody.

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7 minutes ago, @therealsilvermane said:

For us MCU fans, that's cool for the smaller character pieces we'll see on Disney+. But if we want to keep getting the bigger solo adventures and Avengers level films, the theaters have to come back. Those huge box office returns are what really fuel the MCU. We as a society need to get this virus thing under control so the economy and the movie theaters can return. This isn't good for anybody.

Thanks for being our MCU theater ambassador. I hadn't seen the voting card in the mail. :baiting:

But as a fellow MCU fan, I want to see any of these films and TV shows when they become available. As cool as it is to be part of a theater audience and participating in their reactions. With COVID, we are a long ways off from a safer theater environment.

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4 minutes ago, Bosco685 said:

Thanks for being our MCU theater ambassador. I hadn't seen the voting card in the mail. 

PSA for the day: Wear a mask. Vote.

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1 hour ago, @therealsilvermane said:

For us MCU fans, that's cool for the smaller character pieces we'll see on Disney+. But if we want to keep getting the bigger solo adventures and Avengers level films, the theaters have to come back. Those huge box office returns are what really fuel the MCU. We as a society need to get this virus thing under control so the economy and the movie theaters can return. This isn't good for anybody.

How much does Marvel actually see from the tickets sold via the theatre? Eventually, their streaming service will end up being more valuable since the $$$$ go straight to them without the theatres taking a clip. And, more importantly, releasing via the streaming service will increase the number of subscribers who pay a theatre ticket price monthly that goes directly to them, not every 3 - 4 months. 

Remember, Disney does not foot the majority of production costs. That is covered by investors, government funds, and product placement. They are more responsible for the marketing costs, which are not that high relative to production costs. If they can go direct to consumers with a product that is financed by others through their own distribution channel AND make just as much or more $$$, why waste time with theatres? 

The way we consume media is definitely changing towards in home via streaming. That trend is not changing. 

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Black Widow Cast

Scarlett Johansson of course leads Black Widow as the titular character. Surrounding her are almost entirely new faces to the MCU. Two returning players include Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross (William Hurt), who's confirmed, and Tony Stark (Robert Downey Jr.), who's heavily rumored to appear. Since Black Widow is a prequel, that explains Tony still being alive. Florence Pugh plays Yelena Belova, while Rachel Weisz plays Melina Vostokoff, two other Black Widows. Stranger Things' David Harbour plays Black Widow's cohort Red Guardian, the not quite equal Russian counterpart to Captain America. O-T Fagbenle will play a potential love interest to Natasha, while Ray Winstone plays Dreykov, the head of the Red Room.

 

Black Widow Story Details
Set following the events of Captain America: Civil War, Black Widow sees Natasha returning to her former homeland of Russia, where she's forced to enter an uneasy alliance with past allies Yelena, Melina, and Red Guardian in order to take down a dangerous foe called Taskmaster. Manipulating the Red Room for purposes not clear as of yet, Taskmaster is lethal due to his ability to study and duplicate the fighting styles of his opponents. He can even do it just from watching them on video. Defeating Taskmaster will require Natasha to reckon with her deadly past, and all the red on her ledger. What happened to Black Widow and Hawkeye in Budapest will also finally be revealed.

 

Everything We Know About Taskmaster’s Real Identity

A fan-favorite character, Taskmaster's presence in the first solo Black Widow movie has conjured a mystery around itself; the trailers and promo material so far have shown a masked assailant who is referred to only by his designation, 'Taskmaster'. Florence Pugh's character, Yelena Belova (the second Black Widow in the comic books), describes Taskmaster as being in charge of the 'Red Room'; the KGB's facility for creating Russian super-spies and super-soldiers. Which actor (or actress) is behind the mask is currently unknown - a minor miracle in itself, in the age of the internet and near-constant spoilers and leaks. The mystery behind Taskmaster's identity has allowed for some fun theorizing within the fan community, as every interview tidbit with the cast can be examined to discover who is under Taskmaster's mask.

 

MCU Taskmaster's Origin Story

As previously mentioned, Yelena Belova mentions that Taskmaster is now in charge of the Red Room, and has the fledgling 'Black Widows' under his (or her) thumb. Whilst Yelena refers to Taskmaster as a 'he', it is currently unconfirmed that the character actually is a man, rather than a woman. It's hard to determine the character's origin from the trailers for Black Widow, as so little has been given away of the character. Taskmaster can be seen mimicking the fighting styles of Black Widow, Black Panther, Captain America and proficiency with a bow and arrow just like Hawkeye, but this does little to inform fans of Taskmaster's backstory - only his skills.

 

As Taskmaster is in charge of the Red Room during the events of Black Widow, it's simple to assume that he is a product of the same program that produced Black Widow and her Russian 'family'; Yelena Belova, Melina Vostokoff (Rachel Weisz) and Alexei Shostakov a.k.a. Red Guardian (David Harbour). Russian authorities are notoriously impenetrable even in real life, let alone the Marvel Cinematic Universe; having an outsider infiltrate the KGB's Red Room seems improbable. It's likely that Taskmaster, then, is Russian - if only to explain his ability to commandeer the resources of the Red Room deep inside the Kremlin. Equally, Taskmaster could be a Russian posing as a person of another nationality, much like Natasha Romanoff affects an American accent (allowing whichever actor is playing Taskmaster to retain whatever accent they have).

 

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While the Red Guardian and Black Widow are married in the comics, their relationship is different in the live-action Marvel film. In a new interview, David Harbour (who plays Alexei Shostakov in Black Widow) reveals his connection to Scarlett Johansson’s Natasha Romanoff:

 

“Now, the connection to him and Black Widow is that they were set up as a spy family in America in the ’90s. So, Rachel Weisz’s character, Melina, was sort of the mom, Alexei was the dad and Natasha and Yelena were their little kids. We see that in the beginning of the movie, and they sort of function as a family.”

 

Harbour continued:

 

“And when we pick up, Alexei’s had this deep knowledge of Natasha in a certain way that no one else had when she was a kid. He took her from the Red Room and also put her back into the Red Room because he believed in this cause.”

 

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What if to get a jump on a streaming female action film Disney releases Black Widow ahead of WW84 on Disney Plus?

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46 minutes ago, Bosco685 said:

What if to get a jump on a streaming female action film Disney releases Black Widow ahead of WW84 on Disney Plus?

What if I cared? I guess, in that alternate reality, Marvel fanboys get their cake before DC fanboys.

Ultimately, the moderate fans of both franchises will win in the end.

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