Max Carnage Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 3 hours ago, ygogolak said: I just sent them an email. So, I can see the description in the listing if I use IE as my browser but not Firefox. I can see it with Chrome ygogolak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygogolak Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 5 hours ago, AnthonyTheAbyss said: isn't there a law against this? I recalled some big legal fight years ago...unfair playing field. It could be ad blockers that I have on Firefox. Maybe the seller is using a third party platform to list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygogolak Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 GPA scrubbed it from their records. It could have just be adjusted, but maybe it's too hard to certify it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 looks some Tour Variants GCG SS sold and pretty substantial price differences. 475 and then 650 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Action-Comics-1000-Jim-Lee-Tour-Variant-CGC-SS-9-8-Signed-Jim-Lee-1st-Rogol-Zaar/153069524092?hash=item23a3a7947c:g:EM4AAOSw3uFbKwHa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamblood Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 6 hours ago, Wolverinex said: looks some Tour Variants GCG SS sold and pretty substantial price differences. 475 and then 650 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Action-Comics-1000-Jim-Lee-Tour-Variant-CGC-SS-9-8-Signed-Jim-Lee-1st-Rogol-Zaar/153069524092?hash=item23a3a7947c:g:EM4AAOSw3uFbKwHa given raw prices are at 60-65 and unsigned 9.8 should only get like 300 max, and with people knowing cgc wont count defect there will be alot more on ebay soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExNihilo Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, williamblood said: given raw prices are at 60-65 and unsigned 9.8 should only get like 300 max, and with people knowing cgc wont count defect there will be alot more on ebay soon For what it's worth, this particular one went for $123.50. I'm guessing it was partially due to the slabbed book selling for $500+. https://www.ebay.com/itm/-/123182931069?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l10137 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipywolf Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 On 6/19/2018 at 10:27 PM, williamblood said: there is a 9.8 of the lee tour on ebay that has printing defect. this confirms cgc is not counting it. sending mine in tommorow. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Action-Comics-1000-Jim-Lee-Tour-Variant-CGC-SS-9-8-Signed-Jim-Lee-1st-Rogul-Zaar/323309368992?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D52475%26meid%3D1edd691c539242808283e982aa44cbfd%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D323309382860%26itm%3D323309368992&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851 What does that mean for those without the defect do they get higher grades since it it still in better condition. Or does this only matter now to those that don't want a screwed up corner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Cool Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, hipywolf said: What does that mean for those without the defect do they get higher grades since it it still in better condition. Or does this only matter now to those that don't want a screwed up corner Yep - that is pretty much what it means. People that are picky will seek out the perfect CGC 9.8s but the masses will probably just care about the number on the case. Perfect copies will probably demand a small premium but I'd not expect as big a difference as would have been if CGC would have downgraded for the defect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExNihilo Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 3 hours ago, 1Cool said: Yep - that is pretty much what it means. People that are picky will seek out the perfect CGC 9.8s but the masses will probably just care about the number on the case. Perfect copies will probably demand a small premium but I'd not expect as big a difference as would have been if CGC would have downgraded for the defect. This brings up a question about what are people's take on CGC's handling of such books? Personally, I feel that all books should be judged equally. Some books came through unscathed and rightfully deserve a 9.8 grade, whereas others have corner issues and should deserve a 9.6. This wiggle room only seems to serve to water down the number of quality books out there. To me it's not only unfair to any true 9.8 Action Comics #1000, but also unfair for any 9.6/9.8's of every other title out there. I mean, I get that the circumstances are different, but I just feel like grading should be completely unbiased. MGH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamblood Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 5 hours ago, ExNihilo said: This brings up a question about what are people's take on CGC's handling of such books? Personally, I feel that all books should be judged equally. Some books came through unscathed and rightfully deserve a 9.8 grade, whereas others have corner issues and should deserve a 9.6. This wiggle room only seems to serve to water down the number of quality books out there. To me it's not only unfair to any true 9.8 Action Comics #1000, but also unfair for any 9.6/9.8's of every other title out there. I mean, I get that the circumstances are different, but I just feel like grading should be completely unbiased. if the only difference is the printing defect then give the defected 9.8 and the non defected 9.9. especially with this book that has such a low print run. and the majority had the defect MGH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 (edited) Looks like the surplus of tour variants have dropped to about 25 on ebay...lets see what happens to the prices now Edited July 3, 2018 by Wolverinex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamblood Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 38 minutes ago, Wolverinex said: Looks like the surplus of tour variants have dropped to about 25 on ebay...lets see what happens to the prices now midtown still has them for 96.00. so when ebay hits that midtown will drop price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeholdersEye Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 On 6/23/2018 at 11:48 AM, ExNihilo said: This brings up a question about what are people's take on CGC's handling of such books? Personally, I feel that all books should be judged equally. Some books came through unscathed and rightfully deserve a 9.8 grade, whereas others have corner issues and should deserve a 9.6. This wiggle room only seems to serve to water down the number of quality books out there. To me it's not only unfair to any true 9.8 Action Comics #1000, but also unfair for any 9.6/9.8's of every other title out there. I mean, I get that the circumstances are different, but I just feel like grading should be completely unbiased. The difference between a 9.6 and a 9.8 is the mood of the grader. The difference between a 9.8 and a 9.9 or 10.0 is the relationship of the submitter to the company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedcake Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 1 hour ago, BeholdersEye said: The difference between a 9.6 and a 9.8 is the mood of the grader. The difference between a 9.8 and a 9.9 or 10.0 is the relationship of the submitter to the company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExNihilo Posted July 6, 2018 Share Posted July 6, 2018 2 hours ago, BeholdersEye said: The difference between a 9.6 and a 9.8 is the mood of the grader. The difference between a 9.8 and a 9.9 or 10.0 is the relationship of the submitter to the company. Does this mean I should start slipping in $20 bills with my submissions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwitkin82 Posted July 25, 2018 Author Share Posted July 25, 2018 (edited) My Megacon books have arrived...Jock and Mattina AC1000 variants Edited July 25, 2018 by Dwitkin82 Praxis52 and Point Five 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwitkin82 Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 Is there still demand for the Jim Lee Tour variants?? Or have these leveled out..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamblood Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 (edited) On 7/30/2018 at 5:43 PM, Dwitkin82 said: Is there still demand for the Jim Lee Tour variants?? Or have these leveled out..... seems steady at 80 raw and 300-350 9.8. although i expect the 9.8's to slowly drop around 250 Edited August 1, 2018 by williamblood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolverineX Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 On 7/30/2018 at 5:43 PM, Dwitkin82 said: Is there still demand for the Jim Lee Tour variants?? Or have these leveled out..... Looks like they are selling from 80 to 120 for raws on ebay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnexus Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 If the new baddie turns into a big player, it'll be worth having a copy of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
