ExNihilo Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tnexus said: If the new baddie turns into a big player, it'll be worth having a copy of this. I haven't followed the story. Is the potential there? I look at The Batman Who Laughs as the most recent example. His popularity seemed to grow quickly just as did the value of his 1st appearance. Oh sorry..."1st" appearance. #TeamMetal2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnexus Posted August 6, 2018 Share Posted August 6, 2018 On 8/2/2018 at 3:18 PM, ExNihilo said: I haven't followed the story. Is the potential there? I look at The Batman Who Laughs as the most recent example. His popularity seemed to grow quickly just as did the value of his 1st appearance. Oh sorry..."1st" appearance. #TeamMetal2 Superman's villains are in general not as memorable as some other heroes. It sort of depends on how Bendis does I guess. I hope so at least! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valiantman Posted September 5, 2018 Share Posted September 5, 2018 I like this one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwitkin82 Posted September 6, 2018 Author Share Posted September 6, 2018 20 hours ago, valiantman said: I like this one: Yea those were the limited released variants....I think only like 250 or 500.....The Comic Mint exclusive.......raw ones are rare as they were all CBCS graded only, except for a few that the artist and writers had access too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valiantman Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 5 hours ago, Dwitkin82 said: Yea those were the limited released variants....I think only like 250 or 500.....The Comic Mint exclusive.......raw ones are rare as they were all CBCS graded only, except for a few that the artist and writers had access too.... 250 copies. Technically, raw ones can't be rare... because if raw ones are rare people will just deslab theirs. Dwitkin82 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamblood Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 3 hours ago, valiantman said: 250 copies. Technically, raw ones can't be rare... because if raw ones are rare people will just deslab theirs. i have one, i thought about sending it to cgc for the better case. or ill just sell it off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwitkin82 Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 19 hours ago, valiantman said: 250 copies. Technically, raw ones can't be rare... because if raw ones are rare people will just deslab theirs. Well played......well played...so we can agree that the 250 makes them rare though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valiantman Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 16 hours ago, williamblood said: i have one, i thought about sending it to cgc for the better case. or ill just sell it off Is it raw? How did you get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valiantman Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Dwitkin82 said: 19 hours ago, valiantman said: 250 copies. Technically, raw ones can't be rare... because if raw ones are rare people will just deslab theirs. Well played......well played...so we can agree that the 250 makes them rare though... Sure, I'll agree with you. But don't go near the Golden Age category with the idea that 250 makes anything rare. Over there, 250 is a global supply that exceeds all demand until the end of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwitkin82 Posted September 7, 2018 Author Share Posted September 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, valiantman said: Sure, I'll agree with you. But don't go near the Golden Age category with the idea that 250 makes anything rare. Over there, 250 is a global supply that exceeds all demand until the end of time. I'm not qualified to hold any level of conversation in the GA/SA category...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamblood Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 3:05 PM, valiantman said: Is it raw? How did you get it? no its in case 9.8 cbcs, thought about cracking it to get reslabbed in cgc. or might just sell it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gus6464 Posted September 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2018 Just got this today from cgc submitted at sdcc. My first commission slab. Dwitkin82, ADAMANTIUM, ExNihilo and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwitkin82 Posted September 13, 2018 Author Share Posted September 13, 2018 6 hours ago, gus6464 said: Just got this today from cgc submitted at sdcc. My first commission slab. That is amazing....congrats!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExNihilo Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 On 9/7/2018 at 12:05 PM, valiantman said: Is it raw? How did you get it? On 9/8/2018 at 6:29 PM, williamblood said: no its in case 9.8 cbcs, thought about cracking it to get reslabbed in cgc. or might just sell it It's late here so I could be misunderstanding, but I think valiantman (or should credit go to dwitkin82?) is implying that the raw one is rare because it can be submitted to CGC for a blue label (or yellow upon future signing). The 250 copies were all signed exclusives submitted to CBCS such that no yellow CGC labels exist. The implied rarity is in a CGC label (which carries more value because it's a more trusted label) vs a CBCS label. Were you to crack it and reslab it, you would get a green label (which would be more displeasing than a CBCS yellow as far as i'm concerned). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamblood Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 6 hours ago, ExNihilo said: It's late here so I could be misunderstanding, but I think valiantman (or should credit go to dwitkin82?) is implying that the raw one is rare because it can be submitted to CGC for a blue label (or yellow upon future signing). The 250 copies were all signed exclusives submitted to CBCS such that no yellow CGC labels exist. The implied rarity is in a CGC label (which carries more value because it's a more trusted label) vs a CBCS label. Were you to crack it and reslab it, you would get a green label (which would be more displeasing than a CBCS yellow as far as i'm concerned). this ultimate was not signed, so any of the 250 could be cracked and made raw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valiantman Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 36 minutes ago, williamblood said: 7 hours ago, ExNihilo said: It's late here so I could be misunderstanding, but I think valiantman (or should credit go to dwitkin82?) is implying that the raw one is rare because it can be submitted to CGC for a blue label (or yellow upon future signing). The 250 copies were all signed exclusives submitted to CBCS such that no yellow CGC labels exist. The implied rarity is in a CGC label (which carries more value because it's a more trusted label) vs a CBCS label. Were you to crack it and reslab it, you would get a green label (which would be more displeasing than a CBCS yellow as far as i'm concerned). this ultimate was not signed, so any of the 250 could be cracked and made raw I'll chime in... there were 250 graded by not-CGC and there were no extras from that limit (according to the label). No numbering on the books, no signatures, just a numbering out of 250 on the slab label. @Dwitkin82 said that there actually are some other copies, beyond the 250, which were available to artists/writers. Since those are not included in the 250, they could been seen as "rare"... but since you can crack the slab on any of the 250 to get one just like it... raw is only "rare" in the sense that it's very unusual that any exist beyond the 250 slabbed. Regardless, it's probably under 300 copies (just a guess). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExNihilo Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 1 hour ago, valiantman said: I'll chime in... there were 250 graded by not-CGC and there were no extras from that limit (according to the label). No numbering on the books, no signatures, just a numbering out of 250 on the slab label. @Dwitkin82 said that there actually are some other copies, beyond the 250, which were available to artists/writers. Since those are not included in the 250, they could been seen as "rare"... but since you can crack the slab on any of the 250 to get one just like it... raw is only "rare" in the sense that it's very unusual that any exist beyond the 250 slabbed. Regardless, it's probably under 300 copies (just a guess). ooooo. my mistake. I guess I was confusing it with another cover which was signed and exclusively slabbed by the other guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamblood Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 5 hours ago, valiantman said: I'll chime in... there were 250 graded by not-CGC and there were no extras from that limit (according to the label). No numbering on the books, no signatures, just a numbering out of 250 on the slab label. @Dwitkin82 said that there actually are some other copies, beyond the 250, which were available to artists/writers. Since those are not included in the 250, they could been seen as "rare"... but since you can crack the slab on any of the 250 to get one just like it... raw is only "rare" in the sense that it's very unusual that any exist beyond the 250 slabbed. Regardless, it's probably under 300 copies (just a guess). the tiny print run is only reason i bought it and why i haven't sold it yet, with it being 1st app of new villain this ultimate and the jim lee tour will be the key books Second Blight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygogolak Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, valiantman said: I'll chime in... there were 250 graded by not-CGC and there were no extras from that limit (according to the label). No numbering on the books, no signatures, just a numbering out of 250 on the slab label. @Dwitkin82 said that there actually are some other copies, beyond the 250, which were available to artists/writers. Since those are not included in the 250, they could been seen as "rare"... but since you can crack the slab on any of the 250 to get one just like it... raw is only "rare" in the sense that it's very unusual that any exist beyond the 250 slabbed. Regardless, it's probably under 300 copies (just a guess). You can't get only 300 printed for a store variant from DC or Marvel. They only sold 250. Edited September 13, 2018 by ygogolak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamblood Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 5 hours ago, ygogolak said: You can't get only 300 printed for a store variant from DC or Marvel. They only sold 250. comic mint does the full order sends them to get graded, when they hit the amount of 9.8s they need they stop and the rest get destroyed. 250 graded copies plus 10-20 raws for cover artist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
