Desmo850 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 So what’s it going to take to get DC to officially declare which issue is BMWL’s 1st appearance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tec-Tac-Toe Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Desmo850 said: So what’s it going to take to get DC to officially declare which issue is BMWL’s 1st appearance... Yes. As an aside, some of the prices being paid for TT12 are, in my opinion (and with English reserve), quite too high; especially if CGC determines that DNM2 is the first BWL appearance and TT12 is the first BWL full appearance (although, of course, a first full appearance designation will hopefully lead to TT12 retaining similar value). Well, as (edit) I previously wrote, where are those copies of TT12-by the time I find them they will be worth $1-and we shall C ..GC (I know, it was bad the first time I wrote it). Edited March 16, 2018 by Tec-Tac-Toe "... as I previously wrote ..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poka Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Tec-Tac-Toe said: Yes. As an aside, some of the prices being paid for TT12 are, in my opinion (and with English reserve), quite too high; especially if CGC determines that DNM2 is the first BWL appearance and TT12 is the first BWL full appearance (although, of course, a first full appearance designation will hopefully lead to TT12 retaining similar value). Well, as (edit) I previously wrote, where are those copies of TT12-by the time I find them they will be worth $1-and we shall C ..GC (I know, it was bad the first time I wrote it). The high price for TT12 could also have to do with the fact that it has no variants whereas DNM2 has a tons of variants. Edited March 16, 2018 by Poka Spelling ygogolak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamblood Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Poka said: The high price for TT12 could also have to do with the fact that it has no variants whereas DNM2 has a tons of variants. frankies comics just announced a foil cover variant for TT12 Edited March 16, 2018 by williamblood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poka Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Just now, williamblood said: frankies comics jusa=t announced a foil cover variant for TT12 Let’s just keep store variants out of it. But yeah I saw it and it is reasons like this that the store variant markets eventually will crash. Carl Elvis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 4 hours ago, williamblood said: frankies comics just announced a foil cover variant for TT12 You mean a reprint? It's far too late for a variant. Carl Elvis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ygogolak Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) On 3/17/2018 at 12:16 AM, Lazyboy said: You mean a reprint? It's far too late for a variant. Glad to see Marvel brought this back. Edited March 19, 2018 by ygogolak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tec-Tac-Toe Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 14 hours ago, Poka said: The high price for TT12 could also have to do with the fact that it has no variants whereas DNM2 has a tons of variants. Yes, may very well be. Perhaps someone should do a survey ... I jest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tec-Tac-Toe Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, williamblood said: frankies comics just announced a foil cover variant for TT12 Oops. Edit: Oops again; I wonder if the FC's variant will be/be considered a second print. Edited March 17, 2018 by Tec-Tac-Toe Second print? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tec-Tac-Toe Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Lazyboy said: You mean a reprint? It's far too late for a variant. You beat me to it and stated (edit) it much more clearly. Edited March 17, 2018 by Tec-Tac-Toe Bad day for edits on my part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Blight Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 26 minutes ago, Tec-Tac-Toe said: Oops. Edit: Oops again; I wonder if the FC's variant will be/be considered a second print. you mean 3rd print Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYPE-R Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 (edited) 15 hours ago, Poka said: The high price for TT12 could also have to do with the fact that it has no variants whereas DNM2 has a tons of variants. Wait, I thought this was the TT12 variant. Edited March 17, 2018 by TYPE-R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poka Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 TYPE-R @TYPE-Ryou are right and I was wrong. I could have sworn that there were no variants when TT12 hit the market TYPE-R 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYPE-R Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Poka said: TYPE-R @TYPE-Ryou are right and I was wrong. I could have sworn that there were no variants when TT12 hit the market No worries, this is the cover I'm interested in so I wanted to make sure. Poka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tec-Tac-Toe Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 8 hours ago, ComicCollectorMatt said: you mean 3rd print Is it? I have no idea as I don't follow second print on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGH Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) On 17/03/2018 at 7:31 AM, Poka said: Let’s just keep store variants out of it. But yeah I saw it and it is reasons like this that the store variant markets eventually will crash. If their is a store variant with a better cover than than the standard issue, than that's the one I will chase every time... I don't care about value, but a good cover on a key issue especially is far more appealing to me than the same comic from the standard print run with a mediocre cover . As long as there are others like me who are willing to pay for great covers, I don't see good store variants crashing.. Those who purchase store variants, 1:100 etc solely speculating value on scarcity - that could have a rebalance is there is a bit of a flood. Edited March 18, 2018 by MGH Eddie Brock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drbearsec Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 On 3/12/2018 at 1:54 PM, darkstar said: But the market isn't confused. The market refers to IH 181 as the first appearance, not because they aren't aware of his appearance in 180, but because if one is discussing or otherwise referencing the value or importance of that book it is much easier and quicker to simply say Wolverine's first appearance, than to explain verbally or in writing that the book is actually Wolverine's second appearance, but it commands more money than the previous issue because Wolverine appears on the cover and is actually featured throughout the book and because an overwhelming amount of capital has been put into 181 at this point so market confidence in that book is high plus the market is shifting towards favoring cover appearances because of the increasingly popularity of grading services which render the ability to appreciate interior content obsolete. But sure, continue to cry from the rooftops that the market has been fooled into believing that IH 181 is Wolverine's first appearance. On the bright side... Hulk 180 is starting to rise up in value because no one can afford 181. Pretty soon most people won't be able to afford either of them... problem solved? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedforceKJ Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 Well now theres this. ADAMANTIUM, Carl Elvis, F For Fake and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CKinTO Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 9 hours ago, SpeedforceKJ said: Well now theres this. Nice, that's helpful, good to see that CGC is now taking a view. Based on the Census, looks like no update to the Dark Nights Metal 2 as "1st appearance (Cameo)". Interesting that in Dark Days The Casting, it now says "1st App of the Dark Knights in Cameo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 TT 12 has the cover and story that says is the key issue to BWL all day long. The print runs have to be smaller on it then the Dark series that had so many covers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...