Popular Post ___ Posted April 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) Since I couldn't find a properly placed Eternals thread I thought I would start one since the heat is on and people are loading up on early issues. I wanted to provide some guidance on the key issues so folks can be somewhat educated before just looking for issue #1 & 2 and point out some very important observations. If you actually read these books issue 1 is about the discovery and isn't that great of a book. Issue two has a cameo of a celestial at best (should not be full first appearance). It really starts to get good by issue 5 which contains the fist appearance of several popular and key eternal characters. For clarity, there have been three primary leaders for the eternals over the years and noted below. Ikaris was the first chronological character to appear but Zuras, Sprite and Ikaris were the first (transformed by the Celestials). Thena, Ajak, Druig, and Sersi were active before the Second Host. I have listed # of appearances in Earth 616, to show the significance and staying power of the characters over the comic series and beyond just the Eternals as these characters appeared in other books over the years (some more frequent then others). Revised chart further down in first page of thread (leaving original here for prosperity's sake) Issue Character 1st appearances # of appearances to date Eternals #1 (30 Cent Variant) Eternals: Ikaris (Prime One Leader) 115 Deviants: Kro 67 Eternals #2 (30 Cent Variant) Eternals: Ajak 48 Celestials: Arishem the Judge (in Cameo) 51 Eternals #3 Eternals: Sersi 249 Eternals #4 Celestials: Gammenon the Gatherer 34 Eternals #5 Eternals: Makkari 141 Eternals: Thena (Prime One Leader) 106 Eternals: Zuras (Prime One Leader) 67 Eternals: Domo 13 Eternals #7 Celestials: Jemiah the Analyzer 14 Celestials: Tefral the Surveyor 18 Celestials: One Above All 25 Eternals #8 Ransak the Reject 46 Karkas 48 Eternals #9 Eternals: Sprite 34 Celestials: Eson the Searcher 27 Celestials: Nezarr the Calculator 23 Celestials: Hargen the Measurer 15 Celestials: Oneg the Prober 22 Eternals #11 Eternals: Kingo Sunen 20 Eternals: Druig 33 Eternals: Valkin 20 Eternals #12 (35 Cent Variant) Eternals: Uni-Mind 19 Eternals #13 (35 Cent Variant) Eternals: Gilgamesh (The Forgotten One) 78 Eternals #18 Celestials: Ziran the Tester 44 Eternals Vol 2 1985 #1 Phastos 34 Edited August 7, 2018 by 1p36DSA Ken Aldred, ned, Grib and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 So what is issue #3? first Sersi? I saw that at the used book store and could easily grab that copy (not in the greatest condition...) Ducktape, Asbestos and 1950's war comics 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, ADAMANTIUM said: So what is issue #3? first Sersi? I saw that at the used book store and could easily grab that copy (not in the greatest condition...) Yes it is, I would only get any of these in higher grade ADAMANTIUM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, 1p36DSA said: Yes it is, I would only get any of these in higher grade Well it's not but the colors are good, and went by to pick it up, picked it and loot crate orphan black #1 for $2. Maybe I can use it for LCS credit later or someone could buy it as a reader copy later after I read it of course... Edited April 17, 2018 by ADAMANTIUM ___ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callaway29 Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Great info 1p36DSA . ___ and ADAMANTIUM 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) Glad I picked these up in 1977. My favourite BA Kirby Marvel book as a kid. Edited April 17, 2018 by Ken Aldred KirbyJack and ___ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
___ Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 19 minutes ago, Ken Aldred said: Glad I picked these up in 1977. My favourite BA Kirby Marvel book as a kid. Huge Kirby Fan and before my time as a reader, have to say I leaned towards the 4th world (early bronze) but this was a close alternative later in the period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grib Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 18 hours ago, Ken Aldred said: Glad I picked these up in 1977. My favourite BA Kirby Marvel book as a kid. Same here, not sure about this listing on eBay? https://www.ebay.com/itm/ETERNALS-1-CGC-9-8-WP-Marvel-Comics-1976-Jack-Kirby-Origin-1st-app-NOT-RARE/282929027078?epid=85371374&hash=item41dfe25806:g:lK0AAOSw0Lha1eI5 I have a few issues so I understand what he is saying but I'm not sure why he is saying it? Sour grapes, civic duty or self righteous? Any knowledge about the post or opinions? I am also including a photo of one of my books cause its pretty. ___, Ken Aldred and KirbyJack 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) There's a degree of uncomfortable, polarised truth about it, even though I'm clueless as to the actual intent. On the one hand, if someone wants the book at this moment in time, you'll tend to be asked to pay a nosebleed price for it, and his is very inflated. On the other, at least he is disclosing that the issue is extremely common; an honest point about many film speculation books in recent years, which you don't find said very often at all. Nice copy you have there. Edited April 18, 2018 by Ken Aldred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callaway29 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) I've got no issues with it. In fact, I think it's well written! I'm sure he put the nosebleed price on it to prevent anyone from buying a book he probably doesn't own... Edited April 18, 2018 by Callaway29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grib Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 By his standards Ms.Marvel #1, Nova #1, Hulk 181, Spider-man 129 and most bronze comics are not rare and over priced. If he is making a stand on that issue all of our collections become less valuable on eBay. This might hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illustrious Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Here's my ticket in the club: ___ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jools&jim Posted April 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) Here is my application for membership -- I've been a huge fan of this series (as I am with all things '70s Kirby!) since the day it came out: Edited April 21, 2018 by jools&jim Larryw7, KirbyJack, Asbestos and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key Largo Comics Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 My entry: ___ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcjames Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 Picked these up last year for $1 each (yeah that's a #2 for fiddy-cent too) And here's my full membership card: KirbyJack, Ken Aldred, ___ and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ft88 Posted April 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2018 Posted this in the price variant thread. I got lucky with the find and sold most after the movie announcement, so double lucky. Ducktape, jcjames, the authority and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callaway29 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) Holy moly...that says it all. On a totally unrelated note, am I the only one who naturally sees a “slow” looking being with lazy eyes and his finger on his chin, like he’s pondering something in confusion? Edited April 19, 2018 by Callaway29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcjames Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 21 minutes ago, ft88 said: Posted this in the price variant thread. I got lucky with the find and sold most after the movie announcement, so double lucky. Ducktape and ADAMANTIUM 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ___ Posted April 19, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2018 (edited) I went through and re-read the entire series and referenced everything as if I was researching to do a college paper. It has been a while reading the series so I had to make updates from what I used on my first post which was based on memory (leaving first post for prosperity) . Some articles out there on eternals characters first appearances and CGC labels are just not accurate at all. THIS IS WHY YOU NEED TO READ THE BOOKS NOT THE LABEL. Issue one is a first appearance of "a or an" Eternal, not "the" eternals, the team doesn't' really present itself until issue 5. It however is the first appearance of the Deviants. Same goes with issue 2, it is a first appearance in cameo on last page of "a" Celestial, not the team or species of Celestials. You see Celestial artifacts and a space ship within the first two issues but that sure doesn't constitute a first appearance to me, not even an origin necessarily. Issue 5 & 7 are the most significant books by far, as characters go for both the Eternals and Celestials. Fan favorites will be from those issues if anything Movie wise comes of Eternal's . Don't underestimate Ransak and Karkas as they play very significant roles as well. All in all, hope this helps in your collecting searches! REVISED Issue Key issue notes # of appearances in Earth 616 Eternals #1 (30 Cent Variant) Eternals: 1st Ikaris 115 Deviants: 1st Kro 67 Deviants: 1st Tode 16 Eternals #2 (30 Cent Variant) Eternals: 1st Ajak 48 Celestials: 1st Arishem the Judge (in cameo on last page) 51 Eternals #3 Eternals: 1st Sersi 249 Eternals: 1st Ikaris in costume 115 Celestials: 1st full Arishem the Judge (2 page splash & 1 more panel) 51 Eternals #5 Eternals: 1st Makkari 141 Eternals: 1st Thena 106 Eternals: 1st Zuras 67 Eternals: 1st Domo 13 Eternals #7 Celestials: 1st Jemiah the Analyzer 14 Celestials: 1st Tefral the Surveyor 18 Celestials: 1st full Gammenon The Gather (appears in 1 tiny panel in #6) 34 Celestials: 1st Eson the Searcher (in cameo on one panel in middle of story) 27 Celestials: 1st Hargen the Measurer (in cameo on one panel in middle of story) 15 Celestials: 1st Nezarr the Calculator (in cameo on one panel in middle of story) 23 Eternals #8 1st Ransak the Reject 46 1st Karkas (in cameo on last page) 48 Eternals #9 Eternals: 1st Sprite 34 1st full Karkas 48 Celestials: 1st full Eson the Searcher 27 Celestials: 1st Oneg the Prober (in cameo on one panel in middle of story) 22 Eternals #11 Eternals: 1st Kingo Sunen 20 Eternals: 1st Druig 33 Eternals: 1st Valkin 20 Celestials: 1st full Nezarr the Calculator 23 Eternals #13 (35 Cent Variant) Eternals: 1st Gilgamesh & Origin (The Forgotten One) Celestials: 1st The One Above All 78 Edited August 7, 2018 by 1p36DSA Ken Aldred, Key Largo Comics, jcjames and 9 others 8 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MyThreeSons Posted April 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 19, 2018 Here’s my ticket jcjames, wormboy, Larryw7 and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
