ASM #799 Printing Defect??? 0

[KEY ISSUES Comics]

Hi All!

After making the rounds at my LCSs I noticed that every single copy of the regular edition has the same defect: a very fine and subtle semicircle indentation on the bottom right corner of the front page. At first I assumed it was a damaged copy when I looked at my 1st copy, but every single one had it. Same at every shop I visited.

Does anyone have copies WITHOUT it? I was planning on submitting my copies to CGC, but I won't do so if these puppies are going to be dinged for a production flaw while there are copies out there without the error.

Thanks in advance!

Edited April 21, 2018 by KEY ISSUES Comics

[bababooey]

4 hours ago, KEY ISSUES Comics said:

Hi All!

After making the rounds at my LCSs I noticed that every single copy of the regular edition has the same defect: a very fine and sublet semicircle indentation on the bottom right corner of the front page. At first I assumed it was a damaged copy when I looked at my 1st copy, but every single one had it. Same at every shop I visited.

Does anyone have copies WITHOUT it? I was planning on submitting my copies to CGC, but I won't do so if these puppies are going to be dinged for a production flaw while there are copies out there without the error.

Thanks in advance!

My single copy is perfect.

[KEY ISSUES Comics]

2 hours ago, bababooey said:

My single copy is perfect.

Are you certain? It's rather subtle.

What part of the world are you in out of curiosity?

[bababooey]

27 minutes ago, KEY ISSUES Comics said:

Are you certain? It's rather subtle.

What part of the world are you in out of curiosity?

Canada but I'm in the part that doesn't get defective books.  

Now that you made me actually look   .....this 'circle' seems to follow the colour change on the cover, I'll go with optical illusion but either way I don't care too much about it.  

[KEY ISSUES Comics]

3 minutes ago, bababooey said:

Canada but I'm in the part that doesn't get defective books.  

Now that you made me actually look   .....this 'circle' seems to follow the colour change on the cover, I'll go with optical illusion but either way I don't care too much about it.  

I'll triple check mine again. Thanks!

[Sensei Ryan]

Is there any way to post a pic of the defect you're referring to???

[topcat54]

Which cover do you have?

I have 5 copies and they look good to me.

[KEY ISSUES Comics]

9 hours ago, Sensei Ryan said:

Is there any way to post a pic of the defect you're referring to???

I shall once I fix my phone....

[speedcake]

Mine has it too, as well as some other marvel books I bought last week. 

[justafan]

all the ones at flashack comics in VA have them. very hard to see. you have to hold the comic at an angle to the light and allow the glare to shine on the area to see it. it's about a 1/2" semicircle but doesn't break color. I've seen cgc overlook bigger/more noticeable flaws on. 9.8. this is likely production related.

 

[KEY ISSUES Comics]

6 hours ago, justafan said:

all the ones at flashack comics in VA have them. very hard to see. you have to hold the comic at an angle to the light and allow the glare to shine on the area to see it. it's about a 1/2" semicircle but doesn't break color. I've seen cgc overlook bigger/more noticeable flaws on. 9.8. this is likely production related.

 

Yeah, that's it alright. It's even difficult to see when you know it's there! I'll try and post a photo shortly.

[KEY ISSUES Comics]

Can you see it at the bottom right? Sorry for the crappy photo, but it's the best I could manage right now. A crescent-shaped groove.

 

Edited April 23, 2018 by KEY ISSUES Comics

[IntoAnother]

If I’m not mistaken what it is being referred to happens as the books are coming off the printer. I’ve only ever heard them referred to as “printer grabs” which leave the semi circle indentation the OP mentioned. The times I’ve noticed them it’s either been on the top or the lower corner of the front of the books. 

Hopefully someone with some printing experience can chime in to fully explain how it happens.  

[KEY ISSUES Comics]

2 minutes ago, IntoAnother said:

If I’m not mistaken what it is being referred to happens as the books are coming off the printer. I’ve only ever heard them referred to as “printer grabs” which leave the semi circle indentation the OP mentioned. The times I’ve noticed them it’s either been on the top or the lower corner of the front of the books. 

Hopefully someone with some printing experience can chime in to fully explain how it happens.  

That was my guess too. Just wondering if CGC will kill copies with it.

[IntoAnother]

36 minutes ago, KEY ISSUES Comics said:

That was my guess too. Just wondering if CGC will kill copies with it.

I’d suggest giving them a call then. Based on the limited feedback in this thread it doesn’t sound as if the defect is common enough to be looked the other way on, which can be the case with other production related issues that are more common with other print runs. 

[KEY ISSUES Comics]

22 minutes ago, IntoAnother said:

I’d suggest giving them a call then. Based on the limited feedback in this thread it doesn’t sound as if the defect is common enough to be looked the other way on, which can be the case with other production related issues that are more common with other print runs. 

Thanks!

[Sensei Ryan]

My copy here in KY had it and every copy I saw at the bookstore (about 20 I looked through) had it too.  I noticed it before I saw your pic.  I've seen CGC ignore this in the past but it depends on the grader I guess (my guess is that a lot of copies will have it it not maybe all...or at least a big batch of them will but it's non-color breaking and definitely press-out-able).  Not a big deal I don't think and I'm pretty OCD

Thanks for the pic, KIC!!!

[GeeksAreMyPeeps]

I see this on Valiant books all the time. Definitely from print production.

[KEY ISSUES Comics]

On April 23, 2018 at 9:14 PM, Sensei Ryan said:

My copy here in KY had it and every copy I saw at the bookstore (about 20 I looked through) had it too.  I noticed it before I saw your pic.  I've seen CGC ignore this in the past but it depends on the grader I guess (my guess is that a lot of copies will have it it not maybe all...or at least a big batch of them will but it's non-color breaking and definitely press-out-able).  Not a big deal I don't think and I'm pretty OCD

Thanks for the pic, KIC!!!

My pleasure.

You may not think it's a "big deal", but I'm not risking CGC thinking it is, so I kept them out of latest submission. 

[justafan]

it's on other 79x ASM variant covers as well. I also have one where it's at the top right corner. I wonder if this is a new gripper mechanism that has been introduced recently or they just cranked up the gripping force on it.