Jim Starlin Article - The Creator of Avengers: Infinity War Villain Thanos Hates Marvel Comics’ Guts 0

[Lucky Baru]

The article goes through Starlin's history at Marvel, what he's done there, and why he's left so many times only to come back.  Also, it provides a snapshot of why he's at odds with Marvel publishing now.

The Creator of Avengers: Infinity War Villain Thanos Hates Marvel Comics’ Guts

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Edited April 24, 2018 by Lucky Baru

[1950's war comics]

3 hours ago, Lucky Baru said:

The article goes through Starlin's history at Marvel, what he's done there, and why he's left so many times only to come back.  Also, it provides a snapshot of why he's at odds with Marvel publishing now.

The Creator of Avengers: Infinity War Villain Thanos Hates Marvel Comics’ Guts

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looks like good reading for later one - thanks 

[kav]

Thanos does tend to bring out the worst in people.

[comicwiz]

Strange. He posted this on Facebook

[1Cool]

Starlin actually looks happy in those pictures.  Shocked.  After meeting him briefly he comes across as quite the grump and he definetely seemed like the type of guy who is just never happy.  Maybe the comic industry has wore him down.

Edited April 25, 2018 by 1Cool

[djpinkpanther67]

Their love/hate relationship has gone on for decades. I hope he returns to Marvel, as Thanos is one of my all time favorite characters 

[greggy]

6 minutes ago, 1Cool said:

Starkin actually looks happy in those pictures.  Shocked.  After meeting him briefly he comes across as quite the grump and he definetely seemed like the type of guy who is just never happy.  Maybe the comic industry has wore him down.

Maybe he just had to deal with you. 

[wasonff]

7 minutes ago, greggy said:

Maybe he just had to deal with you. 

Or you?

[greggy]

Just now, wasonff said:

Or you?

Nope, as he didn't do any lame X-mens that needed to be signed, jerkwad

[wasonff]

3 minutes ago, greggy said:

Nope, as he didn't do any lame X-mens that needed to be signed, jerkwad

Calm down sweetie 

[Bronty]

get a room !

[1Cool]

30 minutes ago, greggy said:

Nope, as he didn't do any lame X-mens that needed to be signed, jerkwad

What did you think of Starlin?  You also seem grumpy all the time so I assume you guys would get along great.

[Dick O.]

Just to be clear, Starlin's displeasure is with the publishing arm, Marvel Comics. He now seems fine with Marvel Studios.

Good to see Starlin's happy and finally getting fairly compensated for Thanos!

"But Starlin’s excitement is also tied to the fact that the films are a payday for him. He doesn’t get into details, but says he was able to negotiate an arrangement to get a certain amount of money for non-comics uses of Thanos when Disney bought Marvel in 2009. However, in January 2017, he wrote a Facebook post saying he got paid more for the use of his lesser-known DC character Anatoli Knyazev in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice than he did for all the uses of Thanos in the Marvel movies as of then, combined. According to Starlin, that led Disney to renegotiate the agreement, which he now calls “a fairly fair deal.”"

http://www.vulture.com/2018/04/jim-starlin-creator-of-infinity-war-thanos-hates-marvel.html

 

[Cat]

He just seems perpetually unhappy. You got him a Coke? He wanted Diet. You bought him lunch? He doesn't like the painting on the wall at the cafe, so you have to change seats twice. 

Just one of THOSE people. 

[jools&jim]

I wonder if Starlin (and possibly Roy Thomas) are willing to cut a similarly "fairly fair deal" with the Kirby estate...

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Starlin: That was the one exception where there was some long term plotting on Thanos. Kirby had done the New Gods, which I thought was terrific. He was over at DC at the time. I came up with some things that were inspired by that. You’d think that Thanos was inspired by Darkseid, but that was not the case when I showed up. In my first Thanos drawings, if he looked like anybody, it was Metron. I had all these different gods and things I wanted to do, which became Thanos and the Titans. Roy [Thomas] took one look at the guy in the Metron-like chair and said : “Beef him up! If you’re going to steal one of the New Gods, at least rip off Darkseid, the really good one!” (Comic Book Artist #2, TwoMorrows, June, 1998)

Edited April 25, 2018 by jools&jim

[Aweandlorder]

Met with Starlin yesterday. He was very kind and humble, he was sitting with (I believe his granddaughter?) who handled the sig fees, we chatted up a bit (I kept it quick cuz the line was insane!) but at the end he even asked me if I'd like to take a pic with him. Left a very good impression!

I know he had some tension with CGC in the past but it's all resolved now, so maybe that's the same with Marvel? Who knows. 

[WolverineX]

On 4/24/2018 at 7:58 PM, 1Cool said:

Starlin actually looks happy in those pictures.  Shocked.  After meeting him briefly he comes across as quite the grump and he definetely seemed like the type of guy who is just never happy.  Maybe the comic industry has wore him down.

Pretty sure the comic industry wears EVERYONE down... like Jim Shooter... that guy got screwed over so many times 

[Swartzisgod1]

You can tell from Starlin's original Thanos concept art that Metron was a huge influence, but Starlin did not make alot of real drastic changes to Thanos' appearance from his initial concept and Thanos appearance in IM 55.  Other than some minor tweaks with his costume.  

[the blob]

Well, let's be honest. Thanos is a better, more nuanced, version of Darkseid, so Starlin can't totally be enraged he hasn't gotten $100 million for the idea he lifted from Kirby/DC. True, Gamora, et al. are his babies too and don't appear to be clones of other characters. I am hoping his contributions to the MCU have at least gotten him a 7 figure payout in addition to whatever they paid him back in the day. Marvel is making too much money from movies for us to hear about another Dave Cockrum situation, a guy who helped create half the new X-Men, getting wiped out by medical bills.

 

[Ken Aldred]

Having just watched Infinity War, I do feel that Starlin’s creator credit should’ve been more prominent, such as ‘Based on characters created by Stan Lee, Jack Kirby and Jim Starlin’, rather than being somewhat more buried away, much later on.