PhilipB2k17 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 52 minutes ago, jjonahjameson11 said: Because Joe identified a few things that were wrong with artwork, therefore he did not sign What did he say was wrong with it? Maybe the paste ups are not original? Edited April 28, 2018 by PhilipB2k17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipB2k17 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 hours ago, delekkerste said: Someone like that would definitely not try to PULL a fake, but, that's not to say that he couldn't have been the VICTIM of a fake. In light of Felix's recent podcast, is it possible that he saw that Sinnott was going to be at a nearby show and wanted Joe to try and authenticate some covers he owns? This was my thought as well. He wanted it authenticated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicArtPage.com1 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, jjonahjameson11 said: Because Joe identified a few things that were wrong with artwork, therefore he did not sign Didn't sign the 48 or 52 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemart1966 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, PhilipB2k17 said: What did he say was wrong with it? Maybe the paste ups are not original? Hopefully the buyer did his due diligence before purchasing. Nothing like being told by the original inker that some things aren't right. It would be interesting to compare the "original art" with the printed cover. I suppose that it wouldn't be the first time that original art did not match the printed cover due to 11th hour editorial changes... Edited April 28, 2018 by pemart1966 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjonahjameson11 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, ComicArtPage.com1 said: Didn't sign the 48 or 52 ? I only asked about the 48. ComicArtPage.com1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glendgold Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 hour ago, jjonahjameson11 said: Because Joe identified a few things that were wrong with artwork, therefore he did not sign Now that's intriguing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipB2k17 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 16 minutes ago, pemart1966 said: Hopefully the buyer did his due diligence before purchasing. Nothing like being told by the original inker that some things aren't right. It would be interesting to compare the "original art" with the printed cover. I suppose that it wouldn't be the first time that original art did not match the printed cover due to 11th hour editorial changes... Maybe what was “wrong” with it was that it was stolen and Joe would not sign it on principle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipB2k17 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, glendgold said: Now that's intriguing. What would the Kirby estate do if this is real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delekkerste Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 27 minutes ago, PhilipB2k17 said: What did he say was wrong with it? Maybe the paste ups are not original? What artist wouldn't sign a piece they drew just because it has replacement stats?? If there are Marvel fakes of a caliber high enough to fool people who otherwise make big purchases like the unpublished FF 52 cover... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipB2k17 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, delekkerste said: What artist wouldn't sign a piece they drew just because it has replacement stats?? If there are Marvel fakes of a caliber high enough to fool people who otherwise make big purchases like the unpublished FF 52 cover... Well, we don’t know what Sinnott said was wrong with it. Edited April 28, 2018 by PhilipB2k17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicArtPage.com1 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 21 minutes ago, delekkerste said: What artist wouldn't sign a piece they drew just because it has replacement stats?? If there are Marvel fakes of a caliber high enough to fool people who otherwise make big purchases like the unpublished FF 52 cover... We can't base the authenticity of the 48 on fooling the owner of the 52 --they are not owned by the same person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjonahjameson11 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 20 minutes ago, PhilipB2k17 said: Well, we don’t know what Sinnott said was wrong with it. Please note this is second hand info that I am sharing from someone at the show: In a nutshell, The work looked very amateurish, and Joe said it was clearly not his work. It looks like it was light boxed, badly inked, and with phoney coffee stains on it as they were too fresh for the age of the paper. Twanj and aardvark88 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delekkerste Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, jjonahjameson11 said: Please note this is second hand info that I am sharing from someone at the show: In a nutshell, The work looked very amateurish, and Joe said it was clearly not his work. It looks like it was light boxed, badly inked, and with phoney coffee stains on it as they were too fresh for the age of the paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipB2k17 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, jjonahjameson11 said: Please note this is second hand info that I am sharing from someone at the show: In a nutshell, The work looked very amateurish, and Joe said it was clearly not his work. It looks like it was light boxed, badly inked, and with phoney coffee stains on it as they were too fresh for the age of the paper. Hope nobody paid $100K for that! ? But, seriously. This may be why someone reached out to Felix about Mark Landis. Edited April 28, 2018 by PhilipB2k17 williamhlawson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dem1138 Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) I updated my initial post and the thread title to reflect these recent posts. Interestingly, what initially looked like a picture of someone admiring the #48 cover now may be someone trying to see how the cover could be a fake. And the 2nd pic of Joe holding the unused #52 cover could be of him holding up his finger and noting "now this one is real." Edited April 28, 2018 by dem1138 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemart1966 Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 2 hours ago, delekkerste said: What artist wouldn't sign a piece they drew just because it has replacement stats?? If there are Marvel fakes of a caliber high enough to fool people who otherwise make big purchases like the unpublished FF 52 cover... People have been forging Old Masters, Impressionists, etc etc for decades and rather successfully in some cases. As the prices for comic art rises how long can it be before the forgers find there way in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NelsonAI Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) I was just at the East Coast Comic Con in NJ. I got there later in the day so I missed the excitement. If someone had called me, I would have tracked the guy down. After all, how many guys can there possibly be wearing a Captain America cap at a comic show? Lol. The cheap b*st*rd can't afford a $5 mylar sleeve? Cheers! N Edited April 28, 2018 by NelsonAI misc. dirtymartini1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buyatari Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 3 hours ago, jjonahjameson11 said: Please note this is second hand info that I am sharing from someone at the show: In a nutshell, The work looked very amateurish, and Joe said it was clearly not his work. It looks like it was light boxed, badly inked, and with phoney coffee stains on it as they were too fresh for the age of the paper. Well I guess the 52 cover is worth more afteralll ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Just now, buyatari said: Well I guess the 52 cover is worth more afteralll ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 11 hours ago, delekkerste said: Someone like that would definitely not try to PULL a fake, but, that's not to say that he couldn't have been the VICTIM of a fake. When I was in London recently and met up with some Boardies, the question of forgeries was raised with the prominent OA collector in the group. His answer was that the provenance of every significant piece of OA was so well known that no forged piece could possibly be foisted on the market, at least not amongst the cognoscenti. I admire anyone who is able to have that degree of certainty about anything in life. Twanj 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
