Cringer Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 I got a Batman #30 (New 52) signed by Capullo and Snyder at AwesomeCon and submitted it to CGC to get slabbed. I got it back yesterday and while it graded at a 9.8, I was disappointed by the sheer amount of Newton Rings (see pics). While I'm aware that the new cases are subject to Newton Rings and they don't damage the comic itself, I think this one case is particularly bad.....to the point where it distracts from the signature and comic. What do you guys think? I can understand if it's just a few minor spots here and there, but this is a little excessive..... nepatkm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I like pie Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkstar Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 I don't collect graded books but the fact that the market has simply decided to accept the rings and overlook the fault blows my mind. Rodell, Cat, I like pie and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 that's too much Point Five 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaeldubyoo Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 6 hours ago, Cringer said: but this is a little excessive..... You have a gift for understatement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcupine48 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Looks like one of those stickers we called 'oilies' back in the eighties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro. Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Just be grateful they aren't Fig Newton rings. It's a real bear getting all those crumbs out nepatkm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poka Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Contact customer service and request it reholdered for free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callaway29 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Any problem can be fixed. I don’t know why cgc doesn’t just handle it and be done with it. I know the answer to that question btw ($$). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro. Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, Callaway29 said: Any problem can be fixed. I don’t know why cgc doesn’t just handle it and be done with it. I know the answer to that question btw ($$). As long as people keep sucking at the teat and submitting, why should they fix anything? it's been proven time and time again over the years that CGC can do whatever they want and loads of people will still submit loads of books. RockMyAmadeus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callaway29 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Jerkfro said: As long as people keep sucking at the teat and submitting, why should they fix anything? it's been proven time and time again over the years that CGC can do whatever they want and loads of people will still submit loads of books. Pride of ownership, desire to continuously improve to maintain market dominance (not that they have any real competition, but you never know), and customer satisfaction would be my motivators. Wouldn’t be the first time they had a redesign...and the latest slab came after newton rings were known, so if you’re implementing a new design, take the time to get it right. It’s big business, treat it as such... Edited May 9, 2018 by Callaway29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I like pie Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) So, there is a fix that minimizes the effect. When you submit, ask for the #5 cases(thicker ones). Even with those, I think it's still unacceptable so I stopped submitting for the most part until the effect is like it was in the previous gen cases. Very, very minimal. The problem is, a majority of CGC's income is from flippers, who don't care what it looks like. Edited May 9, 2018 by I like pie Larryw7 and lizards2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I like pie Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Poka said: Contact customer service and request it reholdered for free Officially, their statement will be, "That is considered an acceptable amount..." Though, if you speak to the right person, they may still re-holder for free with the understanding it may not get any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro. Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 23 minutes ago, I like pie said: The problem is, a majority of CGC's income is from flippers, who don't care what it looks like. And there we go. The only way they would fix this is if submissions started falling off and it started to affect their bottom line. Old Fashion PB and J 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Fashion PB and J Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 That looks horrible. I have to ask what it means if a books passes through quality control and still ships looking like this. And these Newton Rings are unacceptable in general, CGC needs a new case that isn't garbage. Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman1fan Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Good Lord, that looks terrible! CGC has been around for a long time and they're not stupid, so if they consider a case like that acceptable, there's a customer service issue here. They obviously know that nobody would be happy with a case like that, yet they still ship it and call it acceptable. Until customers stop accepting a substandard product like this, it will probably continue. Speaking for myself, if I was buying a book in a slab like that, it would be a golden age to silver age book that I would only want verification of the grade and if restoration was present. After that, the case and its newton rings would go right in the trash can. People vote with their wallets, and that's likely to be the only thing that will fix this problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F For Fake Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Yeesh, get your mess together, CGC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoy77 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Agreed they look terrible. They take away from the overall presentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zevgoli Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 I thought they had ironed out the Newton ring issue with the new case last year. I have had books returned lately and they are all fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sd2416 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 i got a 35 book submission back. Looks like they were part of the Exxon Valdez oil spill in 1989 Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
